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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mahadevi, you brought a new energy and strong optimism in me with your very good insights and very practical ideas on what might save the work of our Beloved Master. The only thing that remains is to put your words into practice and build one center which will unify all of us and create again one energy Buddha-field. The problem is there is no central figure who is willing to stand against the stupid businessmen who run the Osho commune and take the responsibility for one big sanyas (r)evolution. 

LOVE TO YOU ALL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mahadevi, you brought a new energy and strong optimism in me with your very good insights and very practical ideas on what might save the work of our Beloved Master. The only thing that remains is to put your words into practice and build one center which will unify all of us and create again one energy Buddha-field. The problem is there is no central figure who is willing to stand against the stupid businessmen who run the Osho commune and take the responsibility for one big sanyas (r)evolution. </p>
<p>LOVE TO YOU ALL</p>
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		<title>By: Ma Dhyan Bodha</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/504#comment-12524</link>
		<dc:creator>Ma Dhyan Bodha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 23:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“When I leave my body, I will be in my sannyasins.”

Osho is alive Mahadevi. 
Love Ma Bodha]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“When I leave my body, I will be in my sannyasins.”</p>
<p>Osho is alive Mahadevi.<br />
Love Ma Bodha</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Marple</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/504#comment-10465</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss Marple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 03:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alok John said: &quot;Does anyone tire of the relentless “positive thinking” amongst sannyasins? I have got a sannyasin friend with serious “problems.” But when I try and discuss it with other sannyasin friends, they are endlessly optimistic and refuse to discuss downside possibilities or outcomes. I think this fails my friend because reality is not being faced.

Sometimes i think sannyasins get their ideas from Norman Vincent Peale or Werner Erhart rather than Osho.&quot;



If it was only Werner Erhart or Norman Vincent Peale. These people were harmless. Recently everything sounds as if it came directly out of the &quot;Secret&quot; or from Ophrah Wimpfrey high on horse tranquilizers. The esoteric scene seems to become more bizarre by the day. I am only glad that guardian angels and channelling are out of fashion now.

Nice to meet you again, Alok John. We met on other lists and spoke once on the phone. I hope you are doing well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alok John said: &#8220;Does anyone tire of the relentless “positive thinking” amongst sannyasins? I have got a sannyasin friend with serious “problems.” But when I try and discuss it with other sannyasin friends, they are endlessly optimistic and refuse to discuss downside possibilities or outcomes. I think this fails my friend because reality is not being faced.</p>
<p>Sometimes i think sannyasins get their ideas from Norman Vincent Peale or Werner Erhart rather than Osho.&#8221;</p>
<p>If it was only Werner Erhart or Norman Vincent Peale. These people were harmless. Recently everything sounds as if it came directly out of the &#8220;Secret&#8221; or from Ophrah Wimpfrey high on horse tranquilizers. The esoteric scene seems to become more bizarre by the day. I am only glad that guardian angels and channelling are out of fashion now.</p>
<p>Nice to meet you again, Alok John. We met on other lists and spoke once on the phone. I hope you are doing well.</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas Roth</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/504#comment-10387</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Roth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, the hearts of many are buried under the ruins of Rajneeshpuram.

We have to deal with the past. Ignorance just will weaken Oshos work further and further. As long as the happenings in Rajneeshpuram are repressed and sweeped under the curpet, the energy will be obstructed. It is impossible in the times of the internet to repress facts. Trying to do so just does not work and indicates that there is no authenticity and truthfulness. As long as we do not deal with past in public, officially and wholeheartedly, Oshos work will reamain just a footnote in history, another childish cult that failed to implement utopia and never matured. Truth always speaks for itself. Lies on the contrary need support, good memory and all kinds of new lies to support the first lie. Not to trust in truth is just stupid. A fear which indicates that something essential is challenged. In this case: Oshos mistakes and blind spots. A childish image of perfection. Osho was just a human being. And this by no means is belittling Oshos work. On the contrary.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the hearts of many are buried under the ruins of Rajneeshpuram.</p>
<p>We have to deal with the past. Ignorance just will weaken Oshos work further and further. As long as the happenings in Rajneeshpuram are repressed and sweeped under the curpet, the energy will be obstructed. It is impossible in the times of the internet to repress facts. Trying to do so just does not work and indicates that there is no authenticity and truthfulness. As long as we do not deal with past in public, officially and wholeheartedly, Oshos work will reamain just a footnote in history, another childish cult that failed to implement utopia and never matured. Truth always speaks for itself. Lies on the contrary need support, good memory and all kinds of new lies to support the first lie. Not to trust in truth is just stupid. A fear which indicates that something essential is challenged. In this case: Oshos mistakes and blind spots. A childish image of perfection. Osho was just a human being. And this by no means is belittling Oshos work. On the contrary.</p>
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		<title>By: Shunyananda</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/504#comment-10243</link>
		<dc:creator>Shunyananda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 12:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Quote: &quot;Fresch // Jan 29, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Frank, if you are not enlightened, you cannot know if somebody else is enlightened…therefore it is only BELIEVING/assuming/dreaming that the other is enlightened. You do NOT know!!!&quot;

Fresch: as you are already enlightened, only not Realized that you are, you can at least recognize that someone has realized his enlightenment by experiencing his Being, you feel the difference, you have your intuition, otherwise you would not be here, would you?

Prem Sandesh(Sam), 
you say: &quot;Osho not only could weave the brilliant but also the dark.To me this is a whole guru.&quot;
 
This sparked my curiosity. May you further explain? What does it mean that Osho weaved the dark? Did he only take it into consideration because it already is in this world or did he even confront the dark intentionally? He was speaking up against it all the time, exposing its psycho-pathology and then moving physically right into the biggest snakepit. He must have known what he was up to and he must have known the plan was a jone stown like event at some time because he left the day before and so he saved us all. 

Sorry for going into this dark stuff but have we realized besides our own smaller or bigger problems what the world at large is facing? Could Osho give the world (also through us) a twist that could prevent the world at large from becoming a complete slavery? He said that the world needs thousands or even millions of Enlightened Ones, being the salt of the earth! The urgency that he expressed sometimes has become really pressing (in my opinion) as 20 years have passed since he left the physical plane. Does anybody think and feel that we as mankind are going in a &#039;good direction&#039;? If so, it must be almost invisible (for me) as with movies like &quot;Three Idiots&quot;. Where are all the Realized enlightened ones, have they all gone into complete silence and they shower their energies from behind the scenes? 

As I am still, i am not yet a Realized one so I like expanding my view of the external cosmos still and take different perspectives viewing it. 

Osho often spoke about the Sangha, the commune, as important for it not only adds but multiplies the energies of the Buddha-Field and the depth of the meditation. Should we, his sannyasins, make a playful effort of any sort to come together more physically again? Or are there other means, like this forum or meditate together at the same time? Do we really need someone, like for instance Mahadevi, as crystalisation-points? I would not agree with her that most sannyasins lack inner strength and lost their will to stand up for sannyas and for Osho. Do we need to stand up for Osho? This sounds strange to me as he stands for himself but we can add to him and (re)connect if we want to. 

By the way, is there still any meaning in &#039;The Whiterobe Brotherhood&#039;? And the &#039;Mystery School&#039;? 

Probably everything is going well and I should not be concerned with the fate of the world and only take care of being in the here and now...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote: &#8220;Fresch // Jan 29, 2010 at 10:16 pm<br />
Frank, if you are not enlightened, you cannot know if somebody else is enlightened…therefore it is only BELIEVING/assuming/dreaming that the other is enlightened. You do NOT know!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Fresch: as you are already enlightened, only not Realized that you are, you can at least recognize that someone has realized his enlightenment by experiencing his Being, you feel the difference, you have your intuition, otherwise you would not be here, would you?</p>
<p>Prem Sandesh(Sam),<br />
you say: &#8220;Osho not only could weave the brilliant but also the dark.To me this is a whole guru.&#8221;</p>
<p>This sparked my curiosity. May you further explain? What does it mean that Osho weaved the dark? Did he only take it into consideration because it already is in this world or did he even confront the dark intentionally? He was speaking up against it all the time, exposing its psycho-pathology and then moving physically right into the biggest snakepit. He must have known what he was up to and he must have known the plan was a jone stown like event at some time because he left the day before and so he saved us all. </p>
<p>Sorry for going into this dark stuff but have we realized besides our own smaller or bigger problems what the world at large is facing? Could Osho give the world (also through us) a twist that could prevent the world at large from becoming a complete slavery? He said that the world needs thousands or even millions of Enlightened Ones, being the salt of the earth! The urgency that he expressed sometimes has become really pressing (in my opinion) as 20 years have passed since he left the physical plane. Does anybody think and feel that we as mankind are going in a &#8216;good direction&#8217;? If so, it must be almost invisible (for me) as with movies like &#8220;Three Idiots&#8221;. Where are all the Realized enlightened ones, have they all gone into complete silence and they shower their energies from behind the scenes? </p>
<p>As I am still, i am not yet a Realized one so I like expanding my view of the external cosmos still and take different perspectives viewing it. </p>
<p>Osho often spoke about the Sangha, the commune, as important for it not only adds but multiplies the energies of the Buddha-Field and the depth of the meditation. Should we, his sannyasins, make a playful effort of any sort to come together more physically again? Or are there other means, like this forum or meditate together at the same time? Do we really need someone, like for instance Mahadevi, as crystalisation-points? I would not agree with her that most sannyasins lack inner strength and lost their will to stand up for sannyas and for Osho. Do we need to stand up for Osho? This sounds strange to me as he stands for himself but we can add to him and (re)connect if we want to. </p>
<p>By the way, is there still any meaning in &#8216;The Whiterobe Brotherhood&#8217;? And the &#8216;Mystery School&#8217;? </p>
<p>Probably everything is going well and I should not be concerned with the fate of the world and only take care of being in the here and now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: prem bubbie</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/504#comment-10235</link>
		<dc:creator>prem bubbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[aviram:  Thank You]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aviram:  Thank You</p>
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		<title>By: aviram</title>
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		<dc:creator>aviram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 02:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wow..what to say to all this...i for one was really touched by the innocence of us all coming together again...none of us know the truth..which is what? Each persons experience ,view, maybe I am still stupid , according to whom? My heart still sings with Osho, even though my mind wonders , questions and still...Oshos presence in my life ..still ...was the most beautiful flower, and after the Ranch I was so pissed off,and threw my colours off, and searched and didnt go to any ashram.except for few days during the time Vivek passed and I felt oppression in the ashram..was that me or what, I dont know and still my heart sings with his fragrance. It was never gonna be simple...the journey...but the heart still sings with his fragrance. and he is there as background,as flower...ive been watching his discourses on youtube and am astounded at the now ness and the bubbling in me again..and his daring ..we were young , most of us....he didnt come to make us comfortable...but to shake us, wake us....thought Id add a little...for what its worth....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow..what to say to all this&#8230;i for one was really touched by the innocence of us all coming together again&#8230;none of us know the truth..which is what? Each persons experience ,view, maybe I am still stupid , according to whom? My heart still sings with Osho, even though my mind wonders , questions and still&#8230;Oshos presence in my life ..still &#8230;was the most beautiful flower, and after the Ranch I was so pissed off,and threw my colours off, and searched and didnt go to any ashram.except for few days during the time Vivek passed and I felt oppression in the ashram..was that me or what, I dont know and still my heart sings with his fragrance. It was never gonna be simple&#8230;the journey&#8230;but the heart still sings with his fragrance. and he is there as background,as flower&#8230;ive been watching his discourses on youtube and am astounded at the now ness and the bubbling in me again..and his daring ..we were young , most of us&#8230;.he didnt come to make us comfortable&#8230;but to shake us, wake us&#8230;.thought Id add a little&#8230;for what its worth&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: prem bubbie</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/504#comment-10133</link>
		<dc:creator>prem bubbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 04:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like Osho modified Gurdjief&#039;s techniques, to me.   A true early modern guru for the early modern neurotic mind.... Since then, neurosis is worse, minds thicker and foggier.. Some drastic shit was needed... was that a gamble...all for not i think.  See the Dehli center story..... regression is happening fast!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like Osho modified Gurdjief&#8217;s techniques, to me.   A true early modern guru for the early modern neurotic mind&#8230;. Since then, neurosis is worse, minds thicker and foggier.. Some drastic shit was needed&#8230; was that a gamble&#8230;all for not i think.  See the Dehli center story&#8230;.. regression is happening fast!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: prem bubbie</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/504#comment-10132</link>
		<dc:creator>prem bubbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 04:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yet, We have to be put in a spot to see if we have &quot;grown up&quot;.  No other way to find out!!! How much of something does it take for a person(s) to see the obvious?  We are LAZY, we want to be hand fed if possible, we need prodding, well most of us. The smart ones well, know what to do and what not to do.  The race horse cliche fits pretty well:  The stupid horse needs to be cracked by the whip all the time to run its best. The average horse, just a couple of times. The smart horse, showing the whip is enough.  The Great horse knows without thinking!!!    Sannyasins are either stupid or average-nothing special.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet, We have to be put in a spot to see if we have &#8220;grown up&#8221;.  No other way to find out!!! How much of something does it take for a person(s) to see the obvious?  We are LAZY, we want to be hand fed if possible, we need prodding, well most of us. The smart ones well, know what to do and what not to do.  The race horse cliche fits pretty well:  The stupid horse needs to be cracked by the whip all the time to run its best. The average horse, just a couple of times. The smart horse, showing the whip is enough.  The Great horse knows without thinking!!!    Sannyasins are either stupid or average-nothing special.</p>
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		<title>By: prem bubbie</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/504#comment-10131</link>
		<dc:creator>prem bubbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 04:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[YAY SAM!!!!!    Out of the clouds comes the brilliant sun illuminating the truth, for alone I thought I was, Dodging bullets from above and below, in the dark, just feeling my way past. Thanks for the Kevlar vest  SandeshSam!!!!  and helmet!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YAY SAM!!!!!    Out of the clouds comes the brilliant sun illuminating the truth, for alone I thought I was, Dodging bullets from above and below, in the dark, just feeling my way past. Thanks for the Kevlar vest  SandeshSam!!!!  and helmet!!!</p>
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