Satyadeva,

Me, I also ponder about that as a quest; and one of my responses to myself that came up has ever been to realign with a dignity which has always been and is never lost at the deepest core of Being.

And one of the many layers which are appearing while diving into oneself and surpassing it in rare, unforgettable moments is to bow down to a Master.

And in these moments, disciple and Master get lost together.

And yes, and yet, to discuss and share what´s happening as turbulences and obstacles ever and ever again can not be jumped over.

And these obstacles are very individual ones.

To be able to meet as a temporarily sangha of individuals in a way of not deliberately destroying each others dignity, is a rare gift, very rare. The latter does´t come from some unknown `god`, nor preacher, nor anyone from outside, but from decision to meet like this and commitment too.

Too bad, that it seems to be vanishing as an ´inner´ feelable state of being and deliberate committed option, while connecting.

Even in a UK chat like this, it can be felt, if it is happening, as also when just loads of shit are passed on each other (like Lokesh happened to ‘name’ me again, for example, wrapping his ‘answer’ in lots of barking shit).

I feel anyway not meant, when not even my name is spelled properly…as a sign of contempt.

That´s why I said if that is a web game here, under the name ´Sannyas and Friends´, I don´t belong here.

Madhu

(And I don’t recall mixing up the two of you before, ‘neever’!).

Sorry, Samarpan, if political leaders ‘bite the bullet’ and normally resign after a losing campaign then Osho has to be assigned at least a measure of responsibility there. The only difference is apologists’ (like yourself) unwillingness to give up their idealised image of the master.

It’s so blindingly obvious, but I guess some beliefs are too hard to shift. The question is, why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q6A7swQjIk

Thanks for being such a shining example*, Shantam.

(*Of thick-skinned stupidity).