This link fits with the theme of the string.
Healing without medicine is a big business. Sannyasins too are expert in milking the cash crows.

Being accountable to an intentional community and with whom and for what purpose in that networked community is, or at least was, collectively definitive in sannyas as a fellowship around a table.

When faced with carnivore Greek festivals of so-called sannyasins…I stopped going.

However, my Swiss veganmentalist gf does go out with her friends when the others eat flesh…and used to feed her dog cows in tins…

Extremely rarely (about 11 or 12 or 12.5-20 times in the last 5 years) I eat vegetarian rennet dairy cheese (but only after watching a porn film). I do wish there was a singular cow who I could sponsor for the favour, because I’d happily pay her back without taking her calf away for slaughter…

As for the porn film, I’d never pay to watch, because if it’s consenting adults, then herpes is their ‘choice’.

My porn is flesh on the table…most of morality is obsessed with the effects of flesh on screen. Maybe because swallowing in the first is linked to exploiting pleasure and vanity…whilst in the second, swallowing is linked to exploiting pleasure and…vanity.

It still happens all over the place for those who are curious enough to give it a go…but that’s enough yakking from me….

“They got very interested in people who claimed to be able to pass through walls and then adopt such methods for their own nefarious ends. The imbecilities of man! (SN)”

This little ‘ by-product’ of the issue is a true shot, so to say, and I am quite glad that it was mentioned while preparing for the rest of the thread issue.
for a ‘nice little bugging game’ not even the staring is needed nowadays -
neither some psychic powers of people who are psychopaths.

I remember having seen a documentary piece about shamanistic approaches worldwide, in which one part of it was a man in Siberia who – standing in snow and ice outside – changed by psychic power the operating of a computer which was tucked few feet under the frozen ground in a sort of bunker thoroughly protected by a metal door.

While the other protagonist shamans dealt with sick people this Russian man was very special and I got Siberian freezing in the cinema seeing it, and to see after the performance the scientists getting the proof of what this man was able to do.

We are living in a time where the borderline of dealing with misuse of power, be it on the IT and other-technical lines, be it on the psychic, be it on the merging crossovers of all the sections, including the biosphere, are on the full GO.

Look – just this Serbian Croat – who is now sitting where he belongs, who, after having committed so many war crimes became an advertised ‘famous healer’ with a lot of clients in Belgrade, where he was arrested, years ago.

Yes, the marketplace is full and maybe more important is that the ways of selling ‘healing’ and making it a business with people who believe or are in need of help is exploding, and the capacity to sort out charlatans is diminishing – as the shows go on increasing, the games are increasing which are confined to manipulation and nothing else.

Our “staring” expert (up to now), Prem Martyn, found beautiful words for the Master who indeed did neither ‘stare’ nor manipulate with those eyes of His, yet so many people who never meditated in His presence claimed to know that He was hypnotising with His eyes.

The way to inspire people for the ‘looking insight’, what we call Meditation,
is an ART; most people are interested in power for whatsoever fucking reasons with whatsoever fucking methods to do so. Well, what Parmartha named “the childhood” of man has entered a new phase the last decades and some of it is indulging in ‘magic junkie´s plays’.

Madhu

Agreed, Prem Martyn.
I would try to express it in a more human way – seeing the point that a fulfilling possibility of a face-to-face contact may be sometimes missing (for everybody) – as well as fulfilling exchange with others.

Madhu

Some ultra-proper ‘vegans’, Parmartha, shifted their cannibalistic approaches to life
just to another level – and also their ‘non-aggressive’ approach to life as such
can be questioned meanwhile; you may have to broaden your vision of these people.

I remember the Master having been digging into that issue several times.

Madhu

Or, star-struck by David Beckham…one-way involuntary hypnosis.
Or looking into Osho’s eyes, intentional hypnosis maybe, but forever bliss.

I never wanted to kill a goat or a yak, and given you are a vegan, I am sure you were even less likely to have wanted to.

Edward Cayce was certainly on to something. Underwent an impromtu kinesiolgy session couple of weeks back. I was deeply impressed and am trying to completely eradicate sugar from my diet. You know it makes sense.

PM declares, “I can’t really understand how they claim spiritual elevation when they munch beefburgers and freely smoke cigarettes.”
Such a statement is based on a misconception about the nature of enlightenment. Lots of enlightened guys have had a qualities about themselves that don’t fit with holy enlightenment. Come on, PM, your fave guru, Osho, was addicted to pills, gas, cars, big bouncing girls etc., yet you can somehow understand that he was enlightened, while many cannot.

As the Beedie-Wallah once said, “The body aquires a few habits.”
So if you are enligtened it is okay to visit Macdonalds for a fry-up and smoke fags. I don’t find that difficult to understand. Partial to a nico inhalation after a heavy meal myself. Perfectly all right, but then I am not enlightened. Phew! What a relief. I can do what I want without having to live up to someone’s holy projections. Pass the mustard.

Still worth to stare and gaze and see the mirroring effect.

A lot of men become transfixed whilst staring at twerking bottoms…

Staring at walls is a well-known Japanese Zen pastime, before Sony invented the television.

If the goat stares back, you must be in Wales looking for love.

Staring at the price of a coffee in Geneva is bad manners.

Staring at potential sexual partners on the London metro means you have just arrived from Sofia where it is instead legally encouraged along with leering, smiling, and provocative displays using castanets and gypsy trumpets.

In London, staring for longer than 0.00003 of a millisecond is regarded as an arrestable offence, where only staring at adverts and looking away from everyone, and ending up staring at your feet is regarded as necessary in a preamble to death.

Staring in the mirror for long periods means either someone booked you into a Primal group without you knowing it, or you are thirteen.

Staring at your watch often means you are in the moment, and not enjoying it at all.

Staring out the window means you are probably in one of my English lessons.

Stark staring bonkers means you took sannyas before you actually realised what you were letting yourself in for.

Staring at blogs online means you probably never actually had a life, so actually getting one might seem a challenge, and better to avoid it in case it leads to embarassing conversations about what you do in your spare time.

Being stared at around the groin area (men) means your flies are undone.

Being stared at and having people laugh and point at your groin area means…you have a terrible sense of insecurity after watching certain videos…and are probably over- worrying – after all, size doesn’t matter…no, really…relax…oh, ok, it does and you’re never going to accept it….

Osho didn’t stare…I would just say his eyes were so far gone that even his blinks were intentional and restful and inviting.

Osho’s darshans were famous for their transformational quality…but it’s because of what they provoked in you…the unwinding of your own energy was fundamental to being…
Perhaps it was that transmission that sannyasins were open to, and just like each life-force, is unique….

Yeah, go get some staring – but do it in private, when no-one else is looking…and then look around with a healthy, surprised, pleased-to-be-here look on your face… it’ll really make people wonder – especially on the metro.