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		<title>By: Bodh Ekantam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bodh Ekantam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Oct 2013 13:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OSHO on  how OIF should function!

The committee of the commune should be in rotation; 
every year new people are coming in and old people are going out, 
so nobody becomes addicted to power. 
Power is the worst drug that people can become addicted to; 
it should be given, but in very small doses and not for a long time. 
Let the individual grow and let the commune grow - and forget all about society; don&#039;t fight with it. 
Don&#039;t even say, &quot;We are creating an alternative society..,&quot;
I don&#039;t teach you to be rebellious and to be revolutionaries. 
I want you to be very silent, almost underground transformers. 
Because all the revolutions have failed.. now the only possible way is that we should do it so silently and so peacefully that it can happen.
There are things which happen only in silence. 
For example, if you love trees, you should not take up the rosebush every day to look at its roots; otherwise you will kill it. 
Those roots have to remain hidden. 
Silently they go on doing their work.
My people have to be just like roots: 
silently go on doing the work, 
changing yourself, 
changing anybody who is interested; 
spreading the methods that can change; 
creating small pools, 
small groups, 
small communes 
and whenever possible bigger communes. 
But let this whole thing happen very silently, without creating any upheaval.
OSHO
Socrates Poisened Again, Chapter 13
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OSHO on  how OIF should function!</p>
<p>The committee of the commune should be in rotation;<br />
every year new people are coming in and old people are going out,<br />
so nobody becomes addicted to power.<br />
Power is the worst drug that people can become addicted to;<br />
it should be given, but in very small doses and not for a long time.<br />
Let the individual grow and let the commune grow &#8211; and forget all about society; don&#8217;t fight with it.<br />
Don&#8217;t even say, &#8220;We are creating an alternative society..,&#8221;<br />
I don&#8217;t teach you to be rebellious and to be revolutionaries.<br />
I want you to be very silent, almost underground transformers.<br />
Because all the revolutions have failed.. now the only possible way is that we should do it so silently and so peacefully that it can happen.<br />
There are things which happen only in silence.<br />
For example, if you love trees, you should not take up the rosebush every day to look at its roots; otherwise you will kill it.<br />
Those roots have to remain hidden.<br />
Silently they go on doing their work.<br />
My people have to be just like roots:<br />
silently go on doing the work,<br />
changing yourself,<br />
changing anybody who is interested;<br />
spreading the methods that can change;<br />
creating small pools,<br />
small groups,<br />
small communes<br />
and whenever possible bigger communes.<br />
But let this whole thing happen very silently, without creating any upheaval.<br />
OSHO<br />
Socrates Poisened Again, Chapter 13<br />
Posted by Lakshmikanth Vs</p>
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		<title>By: Bodh Ekantam</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/3055#comment-46280</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2013 16:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Osho on absurdity of OIF Church, Pune!


Q: THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT ONE. WHAT DO YOU FORESEE AS THE FUTURE OF YOUR SANNYAS MOVEMENT? DO YOU SEE IT AS PROSPERING, EVEN WHEN YOU&#039;RE NOT HERE?
 
A: Sannyas movement is not mine. It is not yours.
 
It was here when I was not here.
 
It will be here when I will not be here.Sannyas movement simply means the movement of the seekers of truth. They have always been here.
 
Of course, they have been always tortured by the ignorant masses: killed, murdered, crucified, or worshipped.
 
Remember: it is the same whether you crucify or you worship. Both are the ways how to get rid of those people. One is crucifixion, another is worship.
 
Worship is more cultured. We say you are an incarnation of God, we will worship you. But we will not do what you say. How can we do? We are ordinary human beings. You were extraordinary -- either you were a prophet sent by God, or a messenger, or the only begotten son of God, or you were a reincarnation of God -- you could do miracles. We have created all kinds of miracles, only for one reason. To create a distance between us and the people who have been seeking the truth and the people who have ultimately found the truth. We were not ready to go with them.
 
There were only two ways: either to kill them, destroy them, so we can forget them and forgive them.They were a disturbing element, a nuisance. We were asleep and having such beautiful dreams and a Gautam Buddha comes and starts shaking you and tells, &quot;Wake up!&quot; Naturally you get angry.
 
There have always been a line of seekers of truth... I call it sannyas. It is eternal. It is sanatan.
 
It has nothing to do with me. Millions of people have contributed to it. I have also contributed my own share.
It will go on becoming more and more richer.
 
When I am gone there will be more and more people coming and making it richer.The old sannyas was serious.
 
I have contributed to it a sense of humor. The old sannyas was sad.
 
I have contributed to it singing, dancing, laughing... I have made it more human.The old sannyas was somehow life-negative.
 
I have made it life- affirmative. But it is the same sannyas. It is the same search.
 
I have made it more rich.
 
I have made it more grounded in the world because my whole teaching is `be in the world, but don&#039;t be of the world.&#039;There is no need to renounce the world. Only cowards renounce it.
 
Live in the world, experience it. It is a school. You cannot grow in the Himalayas. You can only grow in the world.Each step is an examination. Each step you are passing through a test. Life is an opportunity.
 
I will be gone. That does not mean that the sannyas movement will be gone. It does not belong to anybody.Just as science does not belong to Albert Einstein. Why the search for truth should belong to somebody? To Gautam Buddha? To J Krishnamurti? Or to me? Or to you?Just as science goes on growing and every scientific genius goes on contributing to it and the Ganges goes on becoming bigger and wider -- oceanic; in the same way the inner world needs a science. The objective world has a science.
 
The inner world needs a science and I call sannyas the science of the inner world. It has been growing but because it goes against humanities attachments, ignorance, superstitions, so-called religions, churches, priests, popes, shankaracharyas... these are the enemies of the inner search because the inner search needs no organization.
 
Sannyas movement is not an organization: that is why I call it `movement&#039;. It is individual. People join.
 
I had started alone and then people started coming and joining me and slowly, slowly the caravan became bigger and bigger.
 
But it is not an organization.
 
I am nobody&#039;s leader. Nobody has to follow me.
 
I am grateful that you have allowed me to share my bliss, my love, my ecstasy.
 
I am grateful to you. Nobody is my follower, nobody is lower. There is no hierarchy. It is not a religion.
 
It is pure religiousness. The very essence. Not a flower, but only a fragrance. You cannot catch hold of it.You can have the experience of it, you can be surrounded by the perfume, but you cannot catch hold of it.Religions are like dead flowers you can find in Bibles, in Gitas... When they were put in the Bible they were living, they were fragrant, but now it is only a corpse.
 
All holy books are corpses, dead flowers and nothing else.Truth, the living truth, has to be discovered by each individual by himself. Nobody can give it to you.Yes, somebody who has achieved it can transpire a thirst in you, a tremendous desire for it.
 
I cannot give you the truth, but I can give you the desire for it.I cannot give you the truth, but I can show you the moon... please don&#039;t get attached to my finger which is indicating the moon. This finger will disappear. The moon will remain and the search will continue.
 
As long as there is a single human being on the earth the flowers of sannyas will go on blossoming.
 
The Last Testament, Vol 6Chapter #14Chapter title: None13 August 1986 pm in Bombay, India
Published by Swami Aman]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Osho on absurdity of OIF Church, Pune!</p>
<p>Q: THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT ONE. WHAT DO YOU FORESEE AS THE FUTURE OF YOUR SANNYAS MOVEMENT? DO YOU SEE IT AS PROSPERING, EVEN WHEN YOU&#8217;RE NOT HERE?</p>
<p>A: Sannyas movement is not mine. It is not yours.</p>
<p>It was here when I was not here.</p>
<p>It will be here when I will not be here.Sannyas movement simply means the movement of the seekers of truth. They have always been here.</p>
<p>Of course, they have been always tortured by the ignorant masses: killed, murdered, crucified, or worshipped.</p>
<p>Remember: it is the same whether you crucify or you worship. Both are the ways how to get rid of those people. One is crucifixion, another is worship.</p>
<p>Worship is more cultured. We say you are an incarnation of God, we will worship you. But we will not do what you say. How can we do? We are ordinary human beings. You were extraordinary &#8212; either you were a prophet sent by God, or a messenger, or the only begotten son of God, or you were a reincarnation of God &#8212; you could do miracles. We have created all kinds of miracles, only for one reason. To create a distance between us and the people who have been seeking the truth and the people who have ultimately found the truth. We were not ready to go with them.</p>
<p>There were only two ways: either to kill them, destroy them, so we can forget them and forgive them.They were a disturbing element, a nuisance. We were asleep and having such beautiful dreams and a Gautam Buddha comes and starts shaking you and tells, &#8220;Wake up!&#8221; Naturally you get angry.</p>
<p>There have always been a line of seekers of truth&#8230; I call it sannyas. It is eternal. It is sanatan.</p>
<p>It has nothing to do with me. Millions of people have contributed to it. I have also contributed my own share.<br />
It will go on becoming more and more richer.</p>
<p>When I am gone there will be more and more people coming and making it richer.The old sannyas was serious.</p>
<p>I have contributed to it a sense of humor. The old sannyas was sad.</p>
<p>I have contributed to it singing, dancing, laughing&#8230; I have made it more human.The old sannyas was somehow life-negative.</p>
<p>I have made it life- affirmative. But it is the same sannyas. It is the same search.</p>
<p>I have made it more rich.</p>
<p>I have made it more grounded in the world because my whole teaching is `be in the world, but don&#8217;t be of the world.&#8217;There is no need to renounce the world. Only cowards renounce it.</p>
<p>Live in the world, experience it. It is a school. You cannot grow in the Himalayas. You can only grow in the world.Each step is an examination. Each step you are passing through a test. Life is an opportunity.</p>
<p>I will be gone. That does not mean that the sannyas movement will be gone. It does not belong to anybody.Just as science does not belong to Albert Einstein. Why the search for truth should belong to somebody? To Gautam Buddha? To J Krishnamurti? Or to me? Or to you?Just as science goes on growing and every scientific genius goes on contributing to it and the Ganges goes on becoming bigger and wider &#8212; oceanic; in the same way the inner world needs a science. The objective world has a science.</p>
<p>The inner world needs a science and I call sannyas the science of the inner world. It has been growing but because it goes against humanities attachments, ignorance, superstitions, so-called religions, churches, priests, popes, shankaracharyas&#8230; these are the enemies of the inner search because the inner search needs no organization.</p>
<p>Sannyas movement is not an organization: that is why I call it `movement&#8217;. It is individual. People join.</p>
<p>I had started alone and then people started coming and joining me and slowly, slowly the caravan became bigger and bigger.</p>
<p>But it is not an organization.</p>
<p>I am nobody&#8217;s leader. Nobody has to follow me.</p>
<p>I am grateful that you have allowed me to share my bliss, my love, my ecstasy.</p>
<p>I am grateful to you. Nobody is my follower, nobody is lower. There is no hierarchy. It is not a religion.</p>
<p>It is pure religiousness. The very essence. Not a flower, but only a fragrance. You cannot catch hold of it.You can have the experience of it, you can be surrounded by the perfume, but you cannot catch hold of it.Religions are like dead flowers you can find in Bibles, in Gitas&#8230; When they were put in the Bible they were living, they were fragrant, but now it is only a corpse.</p>
<p>All holy books are corpses, dead flowers and nothing else.Truth, the living truth, has to be discovered by each individual by himself. Nobody can give it to you.Yes, somebody who has achieved it can transpire a thirst in you, a tremendous desire for it.</p>
<p>I cannot give you the truth, but I can give you the desire for it.I cannot give you the truth, but I can show you the moon&#8230; please don&#8217;t get attached to my finger which is indicating the moon. This finger will disappear. The moon will remain and the search will continue.</p>
<p>As long as there is a single human being on the earth the flowers of sannyas will go on blossoming.</p>
<p>The Last Testament, Vol 6Chapter #14Chapter title: None13 August 1986 pm in Bombay, India<br />
Published by Swami Aman</p>
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		<title>By: Bodh Ekantam</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/3055#comment-46279</link>
		<dc:creator>Bodh Ekantam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2013 16:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Osho on absurdity of Osho Guidance balloon of OIF church, Pune!





I love my people so much that I cannot create any hindrance in their life in the future.
 
I cannot give them any instructions.
 
I am giving them eyes so they can see where the door is for themselves.
 
Why should I give them a map of the house when the house is continuously changing? And it has been proved by these five thousand years that all codes, all religions, all ethical systems have failed for the simple reason that they were trying to decide the future, which was not in their hands. Their intention was good, but their understanding was not enough......
 
I want my sannyasins to inherit my freedom, my awareness, my consciousness.
 
And each sannyasin has to be my successor, has to be me.
 
There is no need for anybody to dominate.
 
There is nobody for anybody to dictate to.
 
They are on their own.
 
If they want to be together they can be together.
 
Out of their own freedom, it is their choice and their decision.
 
If they want to move free they have all the rights to move free............]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Osho on absurdity of Osho Guidance balloon of OIF church, Pune!</p>
<p>I love my people so much that I cannot create any hindrance in their life in the future.</p>
<p>I cannot give them any instructions.</p>
<p>I am giving them eyes so they can see where the door is for themselves.</p>
<p>Why should I give them a map of the house when the house is continuously changing? And it has been proved by these five thousand years that all codes, all religions, all ethical systems have failed for the simple reason that they were trying to decide the future, which was not in their hands. Their intention was good, but their understanding was not enough&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>I want my sannyasins to inherit my freedom, my awareness, my consciousness.</p>
<p>And each sannyasin has to be my successor, has to be me.</p>
<p>There is no need for anybody to dominate.</p>
<p>There is nobody for anybody to dictate to.</p>
<p>They are on their own.</p>
<p>If they want to be together they can be together.</p>
<p>Out of their own freedom, it is their choice and their decision.</p>
<p>If they want to move free they have all the rights to move free&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/3055#comment-46108</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Oct 2013 11:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From student to disciple to devotee sounds like &#039;the path of love&#039; rather than &#039;the path of meditation&#039;. Not that the two are necessarily always mutually exclusive.

But perhaps, Chetna, the &quot;immaturity&quot; you cite as widespread in the sannyas movement is due to overwhelming emotionality, including emotionality masquerading as love? And the difficulty of transforming that &#039;sound and fury&#039;? Just like the whole world of humanity in fact! 

Perhaps in contrast to earlier times, I don&#039;t know, but I&#039;d say very few these days manage to come to the refined love of a devotee without considerable meditation (not forgetting normal evolutionary requirements, including in many cases preliminary therapy and getting one&#039;s life &#039;on track&#039;, ie as unproblematic as possible). 

I put it to you that for the vast majority, meditation, both formal and as a way of life, is a prerequisite for any transition from student to disciple, disciple to devotee. Also, that the real meaning of &#039;devotee&#039; is  &#039;lover of Life&#039; (the inner depths) rather than lover of any specific individual, including a Master, who is, after all, although &#039;one with Life&#039;, only a &#039;doorway&#039;, a reflection of our own being, isn&#039;t he?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From student to disciple to devotee sounds like &#8216;the path of love&#8217; rather than &#8216;the path of meditation&#8217;. Not that the two are necessarily always mutually exclusive.</p>
<p>But perhaps, Chetna, the &#8220;immaturity&#8221; you cite as widespread in the sannyas movement is due to overwhelming emotionality, including emotionality masquerading as love? And the difficulty of transforming that &#8216;sound and fury&#8217;? Just like the whole world of humanity in fact! </p>
<p>Perhaps in contrast to earlier times, I don&#8217;t know, but I&#8217;d say very few these days manage to come to the refined love of a devotee without considerable meditation (not forgetting normal evolutionary requirements, including in many cases preliminary therapy and getting one&#8217;s life &#8216;on track&#8217;, ie as unproblematic as possible). </p>
<p>I put it to you that for the vast majority, meditation, both formal and as a way of life, is a prerequisite for any transition from student to disciple, disciple to devotee. Also, that the real meaning of &#8216;devotee&#8217; is  &#8216;lover of Life&#8217; (the inner depths) rather than lover of any specific individual, including a Master, who is, after all, although &#8216;one with Life&#8217;, only a &#8216;doorway&#8217;, a reflection of our own being, isn&#8217;t he?</p>
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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Oct 2013 16:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The game that is played out here, always reminds me of an insight that came to me during the Thatcher regime, when I realised those who hated and condemned her, danced round her, gave her as much attention as those who loved her. 
A revelatory moment for me in a personal sense as well,  as I was having trouble with neighbors, and realised, that to knock on their door was to involve myself, albeit negatively,  with people I didnt want to know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The game that is played out here, always reminds me of an insight that came to me during the Thatcher regime, when I realised those who hated and condemned her, danced round her, gave her as much attention as those who loved her.<br />
A revelatory moment for me in a personal sense as well,  as I was having trouble with neighbors, and realised, that to knock on their door was to involve myself, albeit negatively,  with people I didnt want to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Parmartha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parmartha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Oct 2013 15:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree here with Arpana. I see no problem for example for a disciple to say he or she has a heart connection, but where necessary thinks for him or herself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree here with Arpana. I see no problem for example for a disciple to say he or she has a heart connection, but where necessary thinks for him or herself.</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/3055#comment-46092</link>
		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Oct 2013 15:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[from todays `daily mail online`:

a portly middle-aged indian gentleman appeared in court this morning  clad only in his underpants,and was  charged with  frequently exposing himself to passers by both  at hyde park corner and on jackassnews.
the prosecution stated that the arresting officers, sgt. george meredith and pc r panner demanded to know what  the large protrusion in his holy underwear was.
the defendant replied that it was  only a metaphor,
and that the officer should be looking at the moon and not the finger pointing at the moon and that western people could not understand the thinking that is not logical and in the straight lines,as anyone who has watched a bit of porn can understand!

the defendant pleaded not guilty to several charges of  public indecency,attempting to peddle ludicrously mixed metaphors and possession of 2 over-ripe mangoes.

the (head) case continues.......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from todays `daily mail online`:</p>
<p>a portly middle-aged indian gentleman appeared in court this morning  clad only in his underpants,and was  charged with  frequently exposing himself to passers by both  at hyde park corner and on jackassnews.<br />
the prosecution stated that the arresting officers, sgt. george meredith and pc r panner demanded to know what  the large protrusion in his holy underwear was.<br />
the defendant replied that it was  only a metaphor,<br />
and that the officer should be looking at the moon and not the finger pointing at the moon and that western people could not understand the thinking that is not logical and in the straight lines,as anyone who has watched a bit of porn can understand!</p>
<p>the defendant pleaded not guilty to several charges of  public indecency,attempting to peddle ludicrously mixed metaphors and possession of 2 over-ripe mangoes.</p>
<p>the (head) case continues&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/3055#comment-46091</link>
		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Oct 2013 14:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A pond was heard shouting at the Ocean.
 &quot; My God, even during full moon you can´t remain silent.&quot;

 Organs may be transplanted from one person to another, but mind in the head is highly personal or quite a racist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A pond was heard shouting at the Ocean.<br />
 &#8221; My God, even during full moon you can´t remain silent.&#8221;</p>
<p> Organs may be transplanted from one person to another, but mind in the head is highly personal or quite a racist.</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/3055#comment-46090</link>
		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Oct 2013 14:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[World would have been still in the caves if restless blood had listened to the pacifists. The happy go lucky chaps, who are born with the opium spoon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>World would have been still in the caves if restless blood had listened to the pacifists. The happy go lucky chaps, who are born with the opium spoon.</p>
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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/3055#comment-46089</link>
		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Oct 2013 12:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is possible to over analyse. 
We are all, wherever we are at with him, 
and probably what we think, 
what labels we put on this, 
doesn&#039;t alter the facticity of what is. .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is possible to over analyse.<br />
We are all, wherever we are at with him,<br />
and probably what we think,<br />
what labels we put on this,<br />
doesn&#8217;t alter the facticity of what is. .</p>
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