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	<title>Comments on: The Bugging of Osho&#8217;s Room</title>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
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		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2013 08:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the topic of irrational, &#039;cultish&#039; behaviour, may I recommend a book by Jon Ronson, an English investigative journalist who produces well-researched, immensely readable, entertaining, humorous books (and no, I don&#039;t get any commission).

&#039;Out of the Ordinary: True Tales of Everyday Craziness&#039;.

A review states:
Ronson explains in the preface that he wanted to write about how people create bubbles of credibility in which they, sometimes they and their cohorts, are convinced they are rational while everyone else is crazy or do and say plainly irrational things as a consequence of &quot;one thought leading to another&quot;.

I found the pace and style of writing pretty engaging, as easy to read and as interesting as his other more bizarre topics such as military scams, conspiracy theorists and paranoia in such books as The Men Who Stare at Goats and Them: Adventures with Extremists.

The real talent emerges in both accounts like that in the postscript to his piece on the Jesus Christians where he admits first becoming convinced of his own villainy by a deluge of obsessive e-mails and then uncovers the same sorts of manipulation and mind control adopted by cults operating a private nursery.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the topic of irrational, &#8216;cultish&#8217; behaviour, may I recommend a book by Jon Ronson, an English investigative journalist who produces well-researched, immensely readable, entertaining, humorous books (and no, I don&#8217;t get any commission).</p>
<p>&#8216;Out of the Ordinary: True Tales of Everyday Craziness&#8217;.</p>
<p>A review states:<br />
Ronson explains in the preface that he wanted to write about how people create bubbles of credibility in which they, sometimes they and their cohorts, are convinced they are rational while everyone else is crazy or do and say plainly irrational things as a consequence of &#8220;one thought leading to another&#8221;.</p>
<p>I found the pace and style of writing pretty engaging, as easy to read and as interesting as his other more bizarre topics such as military scams, conspiracy theorists and paranoia in such books as The Men Who Stare at Goats and Them: Adventures with Extremists.</p>
<p>The real talent emerges in both accounts like that in the postscript to his piece on the Jesus Christians where he admits first becoming convinced of his own villainy by a deluge of obsessive e-mails and then uncovers the same sorts of manipulation and mind control adopted by cults operating a private nursery.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarlo</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2933#comment-44513</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Aug 2013 21:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems that little credence is given to the possibility that Osho knew his room was bugged. This does not require any kind of mystical or other omniscience, just, as he explained, he started to suspect, because Sheela knew what he was saying privately to Amrito. (In fact, two days after the second quote brought by Parmartha, he not only repeated the story of Sheela trying to explain how she and Vidya and Savita all had dreams of what he was saying privately to Amrito but went on to say, famously, that &quot;Enlightenment simply means I know myself. It does not mean that I know my room is bugged.&quot;

He could well deny that he knew, for whatever purposes of legal and other positioning, but he had figured it out afaic. So anything he might have said after figuring it out could well have been for show, just to provoke her. Thus, the whole drama of asking Amrito to get some suicide drugs could have just been for Sheela, which possibility would make Shanti B&#039;s whole reaction completely unnecessary. 

I would even go so far as to say that Osho might even have known they might try to do something to Amrito, but he plays a dangerous game. Apparently, according to Shanti B&#039;s book, Amrito went through that drama (of her murder attempt) in a very surrendered and non-blaming way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that little credence is given to the possibility that Osho knew his room was bugged. This does not require any kind of mystical or other omniscience, just, as he explained, he started to suspect, because Sheela knew what he was saying privately to Amrito. (In fact, two days after the second quote brought by Parmartha, he not only repeated the story of Sheela trying to explain how she and Vidya and Savita all had dreams of what he was saying privately to Amrito but went on to say, famously, that &#8220;Enlightenment simply means I know myself. It does not mean that I know my room is bugged.&#8221;</p>
<p>He could well deny that he knew, for whatever purposes of legal and other positioning, but he had figured it out afaic. So anything he might have said after figuring it out could well have been for show, just to provoke her. Thus, the whole drama of asking Amrito to get some suicide drugs could have just been for Sheela, which possibility would make Shanti B&#8217;s whole reaction completely unnecessary. </p>
<p>I would even go so far as to say that Osho might even have known they might try to do something to Amrito, but he plays a dangerous game. Apparently, according to Shanti B&#8217;s book, Amrito went through that drama (of her murder attempt) in a very surrendered and non-blaming way.</p>
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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2933#comment-44477</link>
		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Aug 2013 11:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cove.
noun
British informal, dated

    a man:he is a perfectly amiable cove

Origin:

mid 16th century: perhaps from Romany kova &#039;thing or person&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cove.<br />
noun<br />
British informal, dated</p>
<p>    a man:he is a perfectly amiable cove</p>
<p>Origin:</p>
<p>mid 16th century: perhaps from Romany kova &#8216;thing or person&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2933#comment-44476</link>
		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Aug 2013 11:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The latter sounds about right, but the first sentence...........
what does that mean???????]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The latter sounds about right, but the first sentence&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
what does that mean???????</p>
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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2933#comment-44475</link>
		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Aug 2013 11:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We spend our lives dealing with the decisions we make, fail to make, others make, fail to make; in the past.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We spend our lives dealing with the decisions we make, fail to make, others make, fail to make; in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: dominic</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2933#comment-44468</link>
		<dc:creator>dominic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Aug 2013 09:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Existence&#039;s postal service hasn&#039;t given up on you yet then.
I am a cove, (small bay with narrow entrance)?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Existence&#8217;s postal service hasn&#8217;t given up on you yet then.<br />
I am a cove, (small bay with narrow entrance)?</p>
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		<title>By: bodhi vartan</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2933#comment-44467</link>
		<dc:creator>bodhi vartan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Aug 2013 09:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem with the sannyas &quot;NOW&quot; is that we will never know what happened yesterday, or consider the consequences of our actions today.

We will be repeating the same mistakes over and over. Get used to it. Get better at it. Ok DR?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with the sannyas &#8220;NOW&#8221; is that we will never know what happened yesterday, or consider the consequences of our actions today.</p>
<p>We will be repeating the same mistakes over and over. Get used to it. Get better at it. Ok DR?</p>
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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2933#comment-44456</link>
		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Aug 2013 15:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although on reflection your a good humored cove so.............!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although on reflection your a good humored cove so&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2933#comment-44455</link>
		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Aug 2013 14:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve only been on the receiving end of this with about another million or so people, so  yawn basically.....................]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve only been on the receiving end of this with about another million or so people, so  yawn basically&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dominic</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2933#comment-44454</link>
		<dc:creator>dominic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Aug 2013 14:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have been warned Arps, for not being surrendered enough to my infallible higher wisdom, and placed on a blacklist.
You know what this means, don&#039;t you?
Any more resistance to your own growth, and you will have to be banned from my london osho bedroom commune.
It&#039;s a compassionate device naturally, but just think of all the fun you&#039;ll be missing.
His blessings]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have been warned Arps, for not being surrendered enough to my infallible higher wisdom, and placed on a blacklist.<br />
You know what this means, don&#8217;t you?<br />
Any more resistance to your own growth, and you will have to be banned from my london osho bedroom commune.<br />
It&#8217;s a compassionate device naturally, but just think of all the fun you&#8217;ll be missing.<br />
His blessings</p>
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