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		<title>By: Sw Bodhi Vartan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sw Bodhi Vartan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Socrates]]></description>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2414#comment-33311</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My postman.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My postman.</p>
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		<title>By: portmanteau</title>
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		<dc:creator>portmanteau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 18:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WHO does this pic remind  sannyasins of?

http://tinyurl.com/bvnbje6]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHO does this pic remind  sannyasins of?</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/bvnbje6" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/bvnbje6</a></p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2414#comment-32797</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 16:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You certainly have a facility for attempting to wriggle out of a tight corner...

However...&quot;It’s not called crazy wisdom for nothing&quot; sounds like that old &#039;I&#039;m-not-being-serious&#039; Get-out-of-Gaol card, played by sannyasin sophists for decades. Sorry, you may think the Goose is Out, but the Cell Door remains firmly closed in this case!

Likewise &quot;Good one (hehe) but irrelevant because what are the odds of me bumping into myself?&quot; 
All those years of meditation and you still haven&#039;t encountered &#039;yourself&#039;? Dearie me! Enjoy your Christmas gruel, sir! (he he).

As for the final two lines, since when has becoming &quot;a better human being&quot; necessarily denoted &#039;enlightenment&#039;? Respect would be a more appropriate response, wouldn&#039;t it? Otherwise we&#039;re just being lazy, self-satisfied, not seeing ourselves or others as they are, thus cheapening the concept and the process. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You certainly have a facility for attempting to wriggle out of a tight corner&#8230;</p>
<p>However&#8230;&#8221;It’s not called crazy wisdom for nothing&#8221; sounds like that old &#8216;I&#8217;m-not-being-serious&#8217; Get-out-of-Gaol card, played by sannyasin sophists for decades. Sorry, you may think the Goose is Out, but the Cell Door remains firmly closed in this case!</p>
<p>Likewise &#8220;Good one (hehe) but irrelevant because what are the odds of me bumping into myself?&#8221;<br />
All those years of meditation and you still haven&#8217;t encountered &#8216;yourself&#8217;? Dearie me! Enjoy your Christmas gruel, sir! (he he).</p>
<p>As for the final two lines, since when has becoming &#8220;a better human being&#8221; necessarily denoted &#8216;enlightenment&#8217;? Respect would be a more appropriate response, wouldn&#8217;t it? Otherwise we&#8217;re just being lazy, self-satisfied, not seeing ourselves or others as they are, thus cheapening the concept and the process. </p>
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		<title>By: Sw. Bodhi Vartan</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2414#comment-32790</link>
		<dc:creator>Sw. Bodhi Vartan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 11:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[satyadeva says:
Sure I question you, as you have written unadulterated nonsense! Don’t worry, it’s that I’d want to “kill”, not you.

It&#039;s not called crazy wisdom for nothing. 

&gt;“To me, all sannyasins are enlightened unless they prove otherwise.”

&gt;Presumably, that includes you, doesn’t it?

Good one (hehe) but irrelevant because what are the odds of me bumping into myself. Trust me that if I bump into you I will treat you as enlightened because to take sannyas means that you have seen something more than yourself and  that hopefully that has made you into a better human being.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>satyadeva says:<br />
Sure I question you, as you have written unadulterated nonsense! Don’t worry, it’s that I’d want to “kill”, not you.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not called crazy wisdom for nothing. </p>
<p>&gt;“To me, all sannyasins are enlightened unless they prove otherwise.”</p>
<p>&gt;Presumably, that includes you, doesn’t it?</p>
<p>Good one (hehe) but irrelevant because what are the odds of me bumping into myself. Trust me that if I bump into you I will treat you as enlightened because to take sannyas means that you have seen something more than yourself and  that hopefully that has made you into a better human being.</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2414#comment-32775</link>
		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 23:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is just a matter of time, synonymous of enlightenment will be Priesthood.
Courtesy- Post Osho Sannyas India Limted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is just a matter of time, synonymous of enlightenment will be Priesthood.<br />
Courtesy- Post Osho Sannyas India Limted.</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2414#comment-32755</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 15:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vartan, yesterday you wrote:
&quot;Sannyasins working under the Osho umbrella are pointing to the moon and understand that enlightenment does not exist. Those that declare themselves enlightened are basically saying that they have reached Osho’s level to which I say, pa! Show me at least 25 Rolls Royces.&quot;

You seem to be saying there&#039;s no such thing as &#039;enlightenment&#039; (unless, perhaps, for Osho?!). But then you also say: 

&quot;To me, all sannyasins are enlightened unless they prove otherwise.&quot;

Presumably, that includes you, doesn&#039;t it? 

Sure I question you, as you have written unadulterated nonsense! Don&#039;t worry, it&#039;s that I&#039;d want to &quot;kill&quot;, not you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vartan, yesterday you wrote:<br />
&#8220;Sannyasins working under the Osho umbrella are pointing to the moon and understand that enlightenment does not exist. Those that declare themselves enlightened are basically saying that they have reached Osho’s level to which I say, pa! Show me at least 25 Rolls Royces.&#8221;</p>
<p>You seem to be saying there&#8217;s no such thing as &#8216;enlightenment&#8217; (unless, perhaps, for Osho?!). But then you also say: </p>
<p>&#8220;To me, all sannyasins are enlightened unless they prove otherwise.&#8221;</p>
<p>Presumably, that includes you, doesn&#8217;t it? </p>
<p>Sure I question you, as you have written unadulterated nonsense! Don&#8217;t worry, it&#8217;s that I&#8217;d want to &#8220;kill&#8221;, not you.</p>
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		<title>By: Sw. Bodhi Vartan</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2414#comment-32751</link>
		<dc:creator>Sw. Bodhi Vartan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 13:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[satyadeva says: 
As it is, you’ve claimed an ‘enlightenment’ which, from current evidence, would appear to be more than somewhat bogus, Swami!

First you claim that I have claimed and then you attack my claim. 

And yes, I do have a high opinion of sannyasins. Kill me for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>satyadeva says:<br />
As it is, you’ve claimed an ‘enlightenment’ which, from current evidence, would appear to be more than somewhat bogus, Swami!</p>
<p>First you claim that I have claimed and then you attack my claim. </p>
<p>And yes, I do have a high opinion of sannyasins. Kill me for it.</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2414#comment-32699</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2012 17:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why these repeated references to &quot;sannyasins&quot;, a quite large, very disparate group? Why not simply speak for yourself, for your own experience?

As it is, you&#039;ve claimed an &#039;enlightenment&#039; which, from current evidence, would appear to be more than somewhat bogus, Swami! 

Unless, of course, you&#039;re playing the &#039;non-serious&#039; card (a common sannyasin cop-out), which would deprive what you&#039;ve written on this matter of any substance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why these repeated references to &#8220;sannyasins&#8221;, a quite large, very disparate group? Why not simply speak for yourself, for your own experience?</p>
<p>As it is, you&#8217;ve claimed an &#8216;enlightenment&#8217; which, from current evidence, would appear to be more than somewhat bogus, Swami! </p>
<p>Unless, of course, you&#8217;re playing the &#8216;non-serious&#8217; card (a common sannyasin cop-out), which would deprive what you&#8217;ve written on this matter of any substance.</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2414#comment-32697</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2012 15:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Depends what you understand by &quot;enlightenment&quot;, I guess. There are apparently many realisations along the way, at various levels, and for most the process takes many years - and then you have to live it, which I hear is another matter altogether...

Your final sentence sounds like utter and complete tosh. I trust it was written with tongue firmly in cheek?!

Btw, if the chances of you actually meeting one of these Indian guys are so remote, why even bother to make your initial comment re &quot;up for a laugh&quot; anyway? You seem rather hung up on a &#039;collective identity&#039;, thinking of yourself as being part of a very &#039;superior&#039; spiritual outfit, a notable characteristic of many sannyasins, in my experience. Sounds misguidedly smug to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depends what you understand by &#8220;enlightenment&#8221;, I guess. There are apparently many realisations along the way, at various levels, and for most the process takes many years &#8211; and then you have to live it, which I hear is another matter altogether&#8230;</p>
<p>Your final sentence sounds like utter and complete tosh. I trust it was written with tongue firmly in cheek?!</p>
<p>Btw, if the chances of you actually meeting one of these Indian guys are so remote, why even bother to make your initial comment re &#8220;up for a laugh&#8221; anyway? You seem rather hung up on a &#8216;collective identity&#8217;, thinking of yourself as being part of a very &#8216;superior&#8217; spiritual outfit, a notable characteristic of many sannyasins, in my experience. Sounds misguidedly smug to me.</p>
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