Comments on: Osho and Three Individuals, Lokesh tells the story

By: tehuti

tehuti — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 23:56:58 +0000

Golden Zen, what the hell is wrong with you people…what do the above 2 quotes prove ?? Osho is just being the USUAL drama queen…exagerrating, manipulating, lying…what’s new?
He tried to cunningly use the therapists…now he’s accusing them of cunningly using him! The same stupid drama as the Ranch…Pune…etc…with different groups of people…nothing new…what goes round…comes round…
His accusing them of making a quick buck ‘..any which way…they learnt well from the great ‘Master of Masters’!
Doesn’t it get through the Sannyasins’ skulls…that anything the great Master said/did should be taken with great skepticism…the man was a manipulator, fraud and a liar…the diciples…monkey see…monkey do…What’s the bloody mystery, Sherlock?

By: Golden Zen

Golden Zen — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 19:59:23 +0000

Lokesh, would your full name happen to be Lokesh Rajen?

By: Golden Zen

Golden Zen — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 18:49:12 +0000

Osho from The Path of Mystic “Devageet told me that he had to almost physically fight for at least putting a picture of me in the brochure because they were all putting their pictures in it. With great difficulty they agreed, and they put a very old picture so that nobody would recognize that it is my picture. And they have not put my name underneath the picture. Under their pictures, their names are there, but under my picture there is no name. And some amateur must have taken this picture; nobody can tell whose picture it is.”

By: Golden Zen

Golden Zen — Sat, 18 Aug 2012 18:45:59 +0000

From OSHO in The Path of Mystic: “Ananda Teertha wrote me a letter: “We have opened a meditation academy.” Devageet was there – he worked hard to find a place, to arrange the money. Devageet helped tremendously to open the academy, and he insisted that my name should be there. But no therapist was willing that even a mention of me should be made. And Teertha wrote in explanation, “We have not put your name on the academy, we have not mentioned your name anywhere, for the simple reason that your name has become dangerous. People become afraid to join the therapy group if it is your therapy.

Governments won’t allow….”

So now it is paying…they have all dropped their names, starting with “Swami” or “Ma”; they have kept just “Teertha,” “Rajen.” That too is cunning. Why not bring back your old name again? Because that old name has no prestige, and they want to ride on both horses. They want to exploit the sannyasins with their names, and they want to exploit the non-sannyasins by dropping my name and any concern with me completely from their therapy groups.

They had come to me as failures. Therapies were dying in America and Europe because people did them and found it is just a game. I made them world-famous therapists, changed the structures of their therapy, joined it with meditation, and they became the topmost therapists in the world. They had come to me as failures, bankrupt. But they have all forgotten that. Now they think that I am a danger. To be with me is no more paying; it is better to be on your own.

But they cannot leave the sannyasins either, because if you are totally on your own, no sannyasin is going to bother about you. So in advertising, they are using the red clothes; in their pictures they have malas. But in reality, they are not using red clothes, they are not using malas. What kind of cunningness…? It seems not only politicians…perhaps every human being has a certain hidden politician in him.”

By: Lokesh

Lokesh — Sun, 12 Aug 2012 23:27:22 +0000

Em….errrr…hum….isn’t it about time to start a new thread?

By: frank

frank — Sun, 12 Aug 2012 12:27:27 +0000

Teertha,
probably about 99%
and the rest didn’t exist at all…

god…duh….

By: Preetam

Preetam — Sun, 12 Aug 2012 08:10:48 +0000

The Dopamine is responsible for Motivation and Inspiration, too. It causes maybe the very fine line between genius and addiction.
It’s maybe a little too much: “whatever the price it will cost”, but one has to handle with it

By: Preetam

Preetam — Sun, 12 Aug 2012 07:01:16 +0000

p.s.: There are 34 dependency genes, if we have 16, we always in danger of addiction. Even to have all 34 is possible.

By: Preetam

Preetam — Sun, 12 Aug 2012 06:53:38 +0000

Hasn’t it to do with our reward system, with Dopamine and the Dopamine receptors?

By: Teertha

Teertha — Sun, 12 Aug 2012 00:56:19 +0000

The linked YouTube of the audio interview with God-dieux posted by Chetna above is extremely funny, encourage all to listen to it. Think high camp comedy crossed with the modern ‘spiritual’ trip. As a Canadian myself, the idea of an Edmontonian calling himself ‘God’ is more than amusing. Edmonton is where John deRuiter lives, probably Canada’s most renowned/notorious modern guru.

That said, it’s interesting to wonder how many of the mystics of history were versions of this guy, made legitimate simply because they were no longer part of the present time. It’s easier to venerate a dead saint than a live one, something Osho so often made light of. Many ‘great saints’ may merely have been ‘God-dieuxs’ of past ages.