Comments on: The Journey from Child Sannyasin to Grown-Up Seeker, by Nityaprem

By: Nityaprem

Nityaprem — Wed, 14 Jan 2026 23:05:53 +0000

I know very little about Osho’s early life, but I imagine his ideas must have been formed by his university days. One shudders to think what the marriages of a lot of his acquaintances there must have been like…certainly what I see around me is a lot of lifelong happy marriages based on trust and mutual appreciation.

What Osho says about marriage and staying together is basically what he applies in his own life, lots of short get-togethers but without the romance that a normal sannyasin might feel. He tries to bring that to his community, but there are many people like my mother and father who didn’t go for that style of being together.

The standard Dutch relationship style is to try things out until you find someone who you feel happy to stay with, and then to settle down long-term and maybe have kids and get married. I think that is what you see with many sannyasins as well, at least the ones I know.

I think Osho just made other choices.

By: satchit

satchit — Wed, 14 Jan 2026 19:13:49 +0000

This is not totally true. His Holiness plays hide-and-seek.

By: satchit

satchit — Wed, 14 Jan 2026 19:08:48 +0000

There are also many people who say excitedly that “the Camino” has changed their life. You see this can happen everywhere. No need to go to Kedarnath.

I think it depends on the person. What is good for one is not good for everyone.

By: Lokesh

Lokesh — Wed, 14 Jan 2026 19:08:10 +0000

NP, what do you think Osho’s suggestion is based on? After all, he was not very good at relationships in his personal life. His relationship with Vivek did not end well, and the encounters he had with women, who came in through the back door, were basically a misuse of trust.

By: Nityaprem

Nityaprem — Wed, 14 Jan 2026 12:40:21 +0000

“My suggestion is, neither marriage is needed nor soulmates are needed – just friendliness is enough. You don’t know anything about soul, how can you become a soulmate?

If you can become just friendly with each other, that is more than can be expected from the present man. If you can be understanding of each other’s frailties, weaknesses, that is more than can be expected.”
( Osho, ‘The New Dawn’ )

This short quote I think says a lot about relationships. I always thought that as long as the forgiveness and trust in a relationship is greater than the fight for control or dominance, then the relationship will last.

By: Lokesh

Lokesh — Wed, 14 Jan 2026 08:39:50 +0000

I very much doubt anyone would be searching for His Holiness Satchit, because it is obvious that his holiness is non-existent.

By: Nityaprem

Nityaprem — Tue, 13 Jan 2026 21:21:12 +0000

Then in a way I find that pilgrimage to Kedarnath that Klaus cited here on December 15th more powerful:

“Here is an Italian guy doing the pilgrimage to Kedarnath and the Shiva Temple there:

“Kedarnath changed me forever. A Journey into the most powerful temple in the world.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2LBLwTvNkY

That is how we may have spoken about our own drunkenness with ‘the divine’.

Still, I like his comments. Straighforward. In his moments.”

Maybe it is because you had to work for it, a 15 km. climb with 2000m of elevation is a fair effort, that is a day’s walk for sure. It just seems the kind of energy you find there is different from “bus loads of Japanese tourists at the Ramanashram’”. More pure.

It makes me wonder about doing the Camino de Santiago sometime, that too seems like purity through effort.

By: satchit

satchit — Tue, 13 Jan 2026 08:42:11 +0000

In Europe you also have your holy places.
You can go to Lourdes or you can walk the Way of St. James as a pilgrimage.

It depends what kind of holiness you search for.
Outer or Inner?

By: Nityaprem

Nityaprem — Mon, 12 Jan 2026 20:04:45 +0000

That is a good side benefit! It’s a pity that the road around Arunachala is closed, I would think a walk around the holy mountain would do everyone good…

By: Lokesh

Lokesh — Mon, 12 Jan 2026 19:04:42 +0000

NP writes,
“It must be difficult to tune in to what energy remains with all those people….”

So I’ve been told by a close friend who visits Tiru every year. I like to imagine there is still a whisper from Ramana. Wishful thinking, no doubt. I was put off going to Tiru by recent reports. That is one thing about living on Ibiza. It is so clean and healthy. No pollution, and in my local town, not a spot of litter on the streets. Tiru by all accounts is a very dirty place.