• Parmartha posted a new activity comment: 12 years, 12 months ago

    In reply to: alokjohn posted an update in the group Oregon State Documents: Ava’s story in two or three documents is interesting. She was a very young woman who got involved in Sheela’s crimes. View

    What a load of material Alok. Too much for one sitting that is sure.
    Want to review any of it for SannyasNews? By the way, you may know why has all this material has come to light at this time? Is it a 25 year rule like in the UK? or just the Oregonian collected all the material together in one place?
    I didn’t like some of the tone of some of…[Read more]

  • Tan, thanks. I was a commune member at that time. There was definitely something fishy about that day’s video going on, it was even announced that the video would not be shown for technical reasons. I can only quote you Max Brecher’s words which have the ring of truth to me. (Page 222) He says: [...]

  • Yes strange, those Shantam wanted to get rid of, he now wants back. Cant live without an enemy that guy! It may be confusing also that we have the caravanserai facility, but comments are also again open on the articles on the home page. If you comment on the home page articles you have to [...]

  • Something was published from that day, much watered down but it did not represent the original lecture. Lectures were always videod so the whole commune could watch them in the evening, but this video was conveniently lost. There were about 40 sannyasins in the lecture, mostly Sheelaites but a few from the household. It is [...]

  • It can also be said that Osho died of natural causes, as I remember a Heart attack was mentioned on the death certificate. Not so uncommon in men of 59 who have lived a life largely without exercise. Osho was a great Master as you say Alok, but I dont think he was interested in [...]

  • Shantam, A “Religion” was created during the Ranch period, it was called “Rajneeshism”. It was Sheela’s suggestion. She rationalised it by saying we needed a recognised religion to give Osho the status of a religious leader, which would allow him to stay in the USA indefinitely. After Sheela left the commune, the Book of Rajneeshism [...]

  • Bingo, it is not in this case me who is saying that the Ranch had become a fascist type place. It was Osho – and the discourse in which he most alluded to it was destroyed. I lived through this period as a commune member. It was not so marvelous. Many, like me, felt we [...]

  • (The following is part of a recently made available transcript of the testimony of DHYAN JOHN aka John Wally, taken before the Wasco County Grand Jury on October 25, 1985; Messrs Robert Hamilton and Byron Chatfield in attendance:) DYHAN JOHN was thereupon produced as a witness before the Grand Jury and, being first duly sworn [...]

  • I sleep well. Maybe you misunderstood SD. I dont experience this as a problem but I can see those I would call devotees struggle with their common sense, and also with the grains of calvinism that is endemic in their devotional psychology. How can the Master be wrong? or perhaps misled by his advisers, etc?? [...]

  • Report partly taken from the Times of India. Panaji : Tribals from a South Goa village have asked the district administration to keep tabs on an ashram started by Swami Rajneesh, a disciple of the late spiritual guru Osho, fearing “terrorist activity” at the site. He, however, says it is intended to bring in development [...]

  • It is a very difficult matter Satya Deva for a disciple, and even more so for a devotional disciple. After all, Osho himself believed he had been poisoned by the US gov, and it seems that he also thought for whatever reason that there was poisoning of his milk by the Sheela gang. Osho never [...]

  • This is going slightly off-topic which is a more general theme. No-one here has for example discussed Osho’s view in September, 1985 that his milk had been poisoned by Sheela’s gang. The micro politics of the situation in 1984/5 at the Ranch was going completely crazy. Puja the Head Medical person reporting directly to Sheela, [...]

  • Actually Shantam, quite a few have died the physical death! We are talking of over a quarter of a century ago. Nonetheless Sarlo’s counting is that there are about 50 enlightened teachers with Osho lineage active from that time, quite a few Indians as I remember.! Even more importantly perhaps are all the invisible things [...]

  • Alok it is not fair to say this subject has been overvisited. It was never actually mentioned until 1999 except by outsiders such as myself and Prem Paritosh. It was only after Devageet’s article in 1999 and other articles from the dental team in Viha Connection magazine did it ever even get discussed as such. [...]

  • Good point Prem. Clearly in India whatever drug “Soma” was in the ancient times, was then used by many spiritual adepts three thousand years ago. The issue seems to me to be whether Osho wanted this activity to be a public activity, and if so, why has this been suppressed for over 20 years? Many [...]

  • Sadly Shantam, I think that White Robe is just a ritual and a religion creating ritual, and just like mass in a Catholic Church, or prayers at a mosque, or Buddhist chanting, incredibly boring. I have been in Pune in the last 10 years, so I am not talking of over 25 years ago when [...]

  • Frankly India is so corrupt and inefficient that any statistics even of population are well known to be in severe doubt by the UN, etc. The main point is that visitors to the ashram/resort continue, and the impression from those who report back to SN is that the energy is good, Osho’s presence is still [...]

  • Some good posts in this string. I’ve met a few people over the years who live by what the Christians call Faith. They sort the ‘material” question out by allowing existence simply to provide. Mind you, even Jesus found this taxing at times and cursed one village for not giving him and his disciples food. [...]

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