“What are you looking for?” I asked her. She replied: “Just curious!”
https://www.oshonews.com/2016/10/16/beloved-deeksha/

I’d like to point out that in this forum, the criticism of the private life and teachings of Osho & Friends began long before the Netflix series and the other byproducts that have tried and continue to try to ride the wave, attempting to consign the Master of Masters to the oblivion of history.

In the video below (use automatic subtitles), Deeksha’s bible is discussed, with reference to Osho raping a Japanese girl and touching the genitals of his female disciples during darshan.

They are three spiritual seekers, not sannyasins, who have benefited greatly from Osho’s teachings. They now have different perspectives on this former sannyasin’s revelations.

The host (on the left of the screen), who titled the video ‘The Dark Side of Spiritual Power’, is the most shocked and scandalized, the one who takes Deeksha’s words as a condemnation without question, deserving a sentence without appeal.

Andrea is the one who most resembles Lokesh, a bit of a braggart and a bit of a headbanger. He doesn’t question the authority of the source conveying such private information, but rather blesses the situation to push him to “take off the diaper” (he often suggests this image of his emancipation… I believe he has become Advaita, beyond the master-disciple duality).

David seems to me to have the most balanced approach.
He emphasizes, in all his comments on Deeksha’s words, that he only hypothesizes the possibility of a private Osho with power trips, Hitlerian sympathies (can anyone tell me anything about Deeksha’s private life? For example, if she’s Jewish…) and sexually compulsive… explaining how, however, the disciple’s commitment to taking from him whatever is useful for his transformation is not wasted.

He also says other intelligent things, all aimed at not preemptively discouraging anyone who wishes to follow the path of The transformation proposed by Osho. Indeed, he says, since the Master isn’t in the body, one avoids projective complications and the social tensions that normally arise around Masters, who are such because they have the energy to break with tradition and scandalize with a new and authentic path.

About an hour into the video, there’s also a commentary by a sannyasin, Sw. Sattva, which also somewhat summarizes my point of view.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ByR0Sdo_kc

If judgements are needed to create this distance it’s fine for me.

If you want, meet me there.

These are very violent times, full of people full of Zionist, Nazi, fundamentalist, pro-vaccination propaganda, etc. Even in civilized Holland, you could be welcomed by the same assholes seen in action in the USA, Israel, Portugal, Germany…

I don’t know how you absorb the mainstream narrative, but I prefer not to risk it; I’m a bit reactive myself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfZOfQr3hOM

I meet many people I would never dream of saying I did better than them to. I just do not view people like that way…it is very judgmental, and in most instances, there really is no reason to judge.

Feel compassion for Osho’s flaws? Again not my way. I normally have a good laugh at Osho’s flaws, generally because they were funny and so remote from how a guru is supposed to behave. It’s a joke.

This means that after Osho, aside from a few fried vegetables, nothing significant has happened to him on the vertical plane.

The problem with peak consciousness experiences is that, in a stabilized form, they make us lose touch with the concerns of people who live in a dimension with different frequencies.

Like Damien, the angel on the Berlin monuments in Wenders’s film, having realized the sense of eternity that deep love provides, we are nonetheless not immune to those concerns, even though we understand their illusory nature in their egoistic investment.

And so eternity is experienced as a condemnation, because of the helplessness it brings us to see all those lives pass by, faint lights of small flames, innocent and unique like children, exposed at any moment to the wind that could extinguish them.

This is too much, even for an angel, so we want to give up our wings for material hands to protect any of those flames, perhaps choosing the one that would make us bearable the infinite melancholy for all the gazes that never had time to meet our gaze, with our eternal promise of love.

So an angel like Osho might find himself doing human things, too human not to be noticed by his and our one-dimensional brothers and sisters, capturing their attention-eyes, somewhere between pleased and scandalized.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iAzYofuItM

All the sannyas names are fictitous.
The name change experiment has produced artifical personalites.

For many years, Osho was the fulcrum of my life. I simply loved the man and loved being around him. When I was not physically close to Osho I felt something was missing in my life.

In human terms, that all took place a long time ago. Osho, I only really think about when I visit this site. I use SN as a kind of psychological tea break from my work, play or whatever creative outlet I am busy with…currently painting.

To me, posting Osho quotes and putting Osho up on a pedestal is just not my thing…it looks kind of sad and empty to me. Osho did not exist to live up to people’s lofty expectations. Osho was never really about his words, even though he was a very verbose man. Osho was about silence. In my youth I was not so comfortable with silence. Now I relish it. I enjoy a lot of peace and quiet in my life. I am fortunate on that level.

If I look for words of spiritual encouragement, I check out Ramana and Nisargadatta. I suppose those wonderful men have become my guiding lights through this thing we call life. Although, in saying that, I must not neglect to say that I am blessed with some great friends.

My paint brushes beckon.

You apparently invite members of the neo-sannyasin movement to leave the ASI lab and meet people in person, people you know only thanks to this lab, which exists thanks to the vast spiritual science produced by a scientist you accuse of not having applied it to his own life.

Since your professor saw you as more of a poet than a mathematician, and since logical reasoning is a resource in an artificial intelligence lab, if you’re not being ironic, then I don’t understand the point of you entering a lab every day for 15 years, unless you, in such a lab, only went in to hand out samosas to the scientists during chai breaks, also finding time to recite some of your poems.

Since your poetry often focuses on the life and science to which the laboratory is dedicated, denouncing flaws in the management (not only financial) of the central hub, this may preclude the scientists from accepting your invitation to leave the laboratory and share real emotions with you…

Lokesh did so, and he preferred the man behind the poet. This means that before accepting the date with you, your poetry, at least in your intentions, must have struck a chord with him, but this is not the case with me.

In my opinion, if you want your invitation to be heard, you should first provide some clues about the man’s path, because this isn’t immediately clear from your poetry.
One might meet you and, as you say, be left with the delusions intact.

You should be thankful, Lokesh.
Your judgements helped you to become free from
Osho. NP is still a lover of Osho.