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		<title>Comment on IS LIFE A MYSTERY TO BE LIVED AND NOT A PROBLEM TO BE SOLVED? by Teertha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teertha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 23:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re the nature of a given poster&#039;s writing -- many people who regularly post online do so in altered states of consciousness. For example, I&#039;d be willing to bet $100 that some of Martyn&#039;s posts are composed after he&#039;s smoked a doobie (or two). Possibly the same with Frank. (And I usually enjoy both, so that&#039;s no moral comment). 

Aleister Crowley wrote much of his 1,000 page autobiography on heroin and cocaine. Gurdjieff wrote much of his &#039;Beelezebub&#039;s Tales to His Grandson&#039; while drinking French brandies. Osho dictated books on nitrous oxide. And I wrote much of my recent work &#039;Rude Awakening&#039; while enjoying good stout BC pale ale.

As to the matter of Lokesh&#039;s opening post -- good stuff, and above all to be commended for using his intelligence to arrive at his own conclusions, instead of just riding off of the shoulders of Osho, Ramana, or anyone else of the Sat Pack. There is this lingering residue of religious programming that many sannyasins seem to still carry, that being the fear of assessing one&#039;s own guru, and one&#039;s own relationship to that guru. It&#039;s a carry over of religious conditioning that to assess one&#039;s own &#039;god&#039; is to be punished. It has infected many -- a good example being a guy who has posted here a few times I think, a certain Swami Heeren, who, in his recent review of Subhuti&#039;s book, referred to my own book as a &#039;slanderous, anti-Osho&#039; work...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/My-Dance-Madman-Anand-Subhuti/dp/1905399634/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1337383620&amp;sr=1-1

...which is nonsense, given that my book runs 80-90% supportive of Osho, and I&#039;ve been accused by other authors of being an &#039;Osho apologist&#039;. But this is what happens when devotees of a guru are incapable of critical assessment. 

A thing I appreciate about this message board is that it is the only sannyas board I&#039;m aware of that has intelligent posters who are not caught in the grip of religious programming that blocks their ability to assess matters, or even to cultivate some of the Joker&#039;s energy. In older times only the Joker could criticize the king, everyone else risked losing their head to do so. The Fool of the Tarot is all about that inner freedom that is not bound by fear-based conditioning. I think Osho himself deeply embodied the Fool archetype.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re the nature of a given poster&#8217;s writing &#8212; many people who regularly post online do so in altered states of consciousness. For example, I&#8217;d be willing to bet $100 that some of Martyn&#8217;s posts are composed after he&#8217;s smoked a doobie (or two). Possibly the same with Frank. (And I usually enjoy both, so that&#8217;s no moral comment). </p>
<p>Aleister Crowley wrote much of his 1,000 page autobiography on heroin and cocaine. Gurdjieff wrote much of his &#8216;Beelezebub&#8217;s Tales to His Grandson&#8217; while drinking French brandies. Osho dictated books on nitrous oxide. And I wrote much of my recent work &#8216;Rude Awakening&#8217; while enjoying good stout BC pale ale.</p>
<p>As to the matter of Lokesh&#8217;s opening post &#8212; good stuff, and above all to be commended for using his intelligence to arrive at his own conclusions, instead of just riding off of the shoulders of Osho, Ramana, or anyone else of the Sat Pack. There is this lingering residue of religious programming that many sannyasins seem to still carry, that being the fear of assessing one&#8217;s own guru, and one&#8217;s own relationship to that guru. It&#8217;s a carry over of religious conditioning that to assess one&#8217;s own &#8216;god&#8217; is to be punished. It has infected many &#8212; a good example being a guy who has posted here a few times I think, a certain Swami Heeren, who, in his recent review of Subhuti&#8217;s book, referred to my own book as a &#8216;slanderous, anti-Osho&#8217; work&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/My-Dance-Madman-Anand-Subhuti/dp/1905399634/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&#038;ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1337383620&#038;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.co.uk/My-Dance-Madman-Anand-Subhuti/dp/1905399634/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&#038;ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1337383620&#038;sr=1-1</a></p>
<p>&#8230;which is nonsense, given that my book runs 80-90% supportive of Osho, and I&#8217;ve been accused by other authors of being an &#8216;Osho apologist&#8217;. But this is what happens when devotees of a guru are incapable of critical assessment. </p>
<p>A thing I appreciate about this message board is that it is the only sannyas board I&#8217;m aware of that has intelligent posters who are not caught in the grip of religious programming that blocks their ability to assess matters, or even to cultivate some of the Joker&#8217;s energy. In older times only the Joker could criticize the king, everyone else risked losing their head to do so. The Fool of the Tarot is all about that inner freedom that is not bound by fear-based conditioning. I think Osho himself deeply embodied the Fool archetype.</p>
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		<title>Comment on IS LIFE A MYSTERY TO BE LIVED AND NOT A PROBLEM TO BE SOLVED? by Lokesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 23:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shantam, how do you know that? How do you know that MR FB is the right fish. You can&#039;t possibly know anything much about him. He looks like a young guy doing the right thing at the right time n the material world, but who knows?
That&#039;s the whole thing about judging people; you don&#039;t really know who a person is on the inside. Maybe we reincarnate millions of times. Maybe we have all been Kings, Queens, Rock Stars, Rich and Famous, afterall the universe has plenty of time and space to play a million roles in.
Long before I met any wise guys I found out by myself that you can never really tell what level of consciousness some people are operating from. Besides, maybe tomorrow MR FB&#039;s Gulfstream comes down on a transatlantic flight and is last heard of three hundred kilometres south of the Azores. I would not want to trade places with the guy. Being a billionaire is no guarantee against suffering in life. We are all on the same leaky boat. We all need to learn how to swim before it sinks and money won&#039;t help you then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shantam, how do you know that? How do you know that MR FB is the right fish. You can&#8217;t possibly know anything much about him. He looks like a young guy doing the right thing at the right time n the material world, but who knows?<br />
That&#8217;s the whole thing about judging people; you don&#8217;t really know who a person is on the inside. Maybe we reincarnate millions of times. Maybe we have all been Kings, Queens, Rock Stars, Rich and Famous, afterall the universe has plenty of time and space to play a million roles in.<br />
Long before I met any wise guys I found out by myself that you can never really tell what level of consciousness some people are operating from. Besides, maybe tomorrow MR FB&#8217;s Gulfstream comes down on a transatlantic flight and is last heard of three hundred kilometres south of the Azores. I would not want to trade places with the guy. Being a billionaire is no guarantee against suffering in life. We are all on the same leaky boat. We all need to learn how to swim before it sinks and money won&#8217;t help you then.</p>
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		<title>Comment on IS LIFE A MYSTERY TO BE LIVED AND NOT A PROBLEM TO BE SOLVED? by Arun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 21:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes Frank, one can only travel at near light-speed for so long before it starts to catch up with you. It&#039;s good to know that I&#039;ve come to the right place though, feels like home. Arpana seems to think I&#039;ve been here before, maybe I really have actually caught up with myself after all.

Sorry to hear about Shantam&#039;s space-sickness, shoulda taken the red pill...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes Frank, one can only travel at near light-speed for so long before it starts to catch up with you. It&#8217;s good to know that I&#8217;ve come to the right place though, feels like home. Arpana seems to think I&#8217;ve been here before, maybe I really have actually caught up with myself after all.</p>
<p>Sorry to hear about Shantam&#8217;s space-sickness, shoulda taken the red pill&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on IS LIFE A MYSTERY TO BE LIVED AND NOT A PROBLEM TO BE SOLVED? by Arun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 20:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Er, no Arpana, I have only recently arrived here &#039;by post&#039; under a single name, kindly linked by Lokesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er, no Arpana, I have only recently arrived here &#8216;by post&#8217; under a single name, kindly linked by Lokesh.</p>
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		<title>Comment on IS LIFE A MYSTERY TO BE LIVED AND NOT A PROBLEM TO BE SOLVED? by frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 16:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so arun,
you have &quot;hung up your helmet and laser-blaster&quot;.
you`ve come to the right place..
take  shantam, for example....... 
the doctor gave him some blue pills,but his helmet is still hanging there and he just hasn&#039;t been able to get his laser to blast since 1988-90......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so arun,<br />
you have &#8220;hung up your helmet and laser-blaster&#8221;.<br />
you`ve come to the right place..<br />
take  shantam, for example&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
the doctor gave him some blue pills,but his helmet is still hanging there and he just hasn&#8217;t been able to get his laser to blast since 1988-90&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on IS LIFE A MYSTERY TO BE LIVED AND NOT A PROBLEM TO BE SOLVED? by shantam prem</title>
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		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 16:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The boss of facebook with his team ringing the bell at world´s biggest gamble street is the top news on every news website.
 What millions of other enterpreneurs are unable to do, what billions of other human beings are unable to do;  young Messiah of facebok has done it, becoming instant billionare with his student idea! 
It is pity not many Charismatic gurus are around, otherwise Mark Zükerberg is the right fish to catch with the idea, &quot; Now you go for inner richness..That richness which can never fall on the Wall Street&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The boss of facebook with his team ringing the bell at world´s biggest gamble street is the top news on every news website.<br />
 What millions of other enterpreneurs are unable to do, what billions of other human beings are unable to do;  young Messiah of facebok has done it, becoming instant billionare with his student idea!<br />
It is pity not many Charismatic gurus are around, otherwise Mark Zükerberg is the right fish to catch with the idea, &#8221; Now you go for inner richness..That richness which can never fall on the Wall Street&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on IS LIFE A MYSTERY TO BE LIVED AND NOT A PROBLEM TO BE SOLVED? by Arpana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 16:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve posted here under another name.
That&#039;s a question, or a request for confirmation. 
(I recognise that voice!!!!!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve posted here under another name.<br />
That&#8217;s a question, or a request for confirmation.<br />
(I recognise that voice!!!!!)</p>
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		<title>Comment on IS LIFE A MYSTERY TO BE LIVED AND NOT A PROBLEM TO BE SOLVED? by Arun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 16:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A long time ago in a virtual reality not so far away...

Martyn, some may see you as some kind of &#039;vicious&#039; Sith Lord, but I see you for the Jolly Jedi that you really are. Your Jedi mind trick works very well it seems on the young sannyasin and I wonder if you&#039;ve sat back and had a good chuckle at the weak-minded Storm-trooper waving you off into a galaxy of stars?

Why has no one pointed out to the Stormtrooper (myself included) that you&#039;re just having fun with the Force and your posts are lyrical not literal? Somehow it turned into bear (can be substituted for Wookie) baiting. Cruel sport that.

I wonder myself sometimes at your crypticisms (is there such a word?! There is now.) For example, Descartes&#039; La Pensee Humaine? Did Nourisson not write that?? Could I stabilize a wobbly table with a book that doesn&#039;t exist - or maybe that&#039;s your point? You see how the Jedi mind trick can effect an old Stormtrooper like me who has long since hung up his helmet and laser-blaster. But on the subject of Descartes, &quot;cogito ergo sum&quot;, if ever the ego found a super-food to gobble up (or maybe tv dinner would be more apt),  and lounge around ever since, &#039;self&#039; satisfied, that was surely it.

Martyn, the Force is with you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A long time ago in a virtual reality not so far away&#8230;</p>
<p>Martyn, some may see you as some kind of &#8216;vicious&#8217; Sith Lord, but I see you for the Jolly Jedi that you really are. Your Jedi mind trick works very well it seems on the young sannyasin and I wonder if you&#8217;ve sat back and had a good chuckle at the weak-minded Storm-trooper waving you off into a galaxy of stars?</p>
<p>Why has no one pointed out to the Stormtrooper (myself included) that you&#8217;re just having fun with the Force and your posts are lyrical not literal? Somehow it turned into bear (can be substituted for Wookie) baiting. Cruel sport that.</p>
<p>I wonder myself sometimes at your crypticisms (is there such a word?! There is now.) For example, Descartes&#8217; La Pensee Humaine? Did Nourisson not write that?? Could I stabilize a wobbly table with a book that doesn&#8217;t exist &#8211; or maybe that&#8217;s your point? You see how the Jedi mind trick can effect an old Stormtrooper like me who has long since hung up his helmet and laser-blaster. But on the subject of Descartes, &#8220;cogito ergo sum&#8221;, if ever the ego found a super-food to gobble up (or maybe tv dinner would be more apt),  and lounge around ever since, &#8216;self&#8217; satisfied, that was surely it.</p>
<p>Martyn, the Force is with you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on IS LIFE A MYSTERY TO BE LIVED AND NOT A PROBLEM TO BE SOLVED? by martyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>martyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 12:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For Arun : Yes yes yes ...I learnt all my insights from the handy &#039;Teach yourself Thinking &#039; vol 1.
The very nature of nothing (it says in the opening chapter ) shows us how much we can think without it being of any use (pointless thought) however not all thoughts are useless ( consideration). 
If for instance you have a wobbly table leg, you could using Descartes &#039; La Pensee Humaine&#039; use it to steady the miscreant item into a state of balance. Similarly when I print off this blog onto my handy wi-fi printer/toilet paper dispenser all our thoughts return, recycled into their natural origins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Arun : Yes yes yes &#8230;I learnt all my insights from the handy &#8216;Teach yourself Thinking &#8216; vol 1.<br />
The very nature of nothing (it says in the opening chapter ) shows us how much we can think without it being of any use (pointless thought) however not all thoughts are useless ( consideration).<br />
If for instance you have a wobbly table leg, you could using Descartes &#8216; La Pensee Humaine&#8217; use it to steady the miscreant item into a state of balance. Similarly when I print off this blog onto my handy wi-fi printer/toilet paper dispenser all our thoughts return, recycled into their natural origins.</p>
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		<title>Comment on IS LIFE A MYSTERY TO BE LIVED AND NOT A PROBLEM TO BE SOLVED? by Young sannyasin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Young sannyasin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 11:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys.....what&#039;s up? Did they forget to give you the tranquilizer after breakfast today at the orange retirement home? I didn&#039;t know martyn was so important for you....Btw i&#039;d never had silk sheets,just normal cotton ones.Maybe you are mistaking me with somebody else....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys&#8230;..what&#8217;s up? Did they forget to give you the tranquilizer after breakfast today at the orange retirement home? I didn&#8217;t know martyn was so important for you&#8230;.Btw i&#8217;d never had silk sheets,just normal cotton ones.Maybe you are mistaking me with somebody else&#8230;.</p>
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