It is said – as a metapher and also otherwise – that if you want to take a poisonous thorn out of the flesh (and otherwise) you need to use another thorn to remove it.

You did that yesterday (at 1:52 pm) re Bharti´s elaboration, using some of the insights of the Age of Enlightement in the 18th century using Baye´ theorem and the whole discussion of that time of mathematics, statistics, philosophers and whatnot.

People – whose intellectual and philosophical insights are in need to be updated, one can say – being nowadays confronted with all the stuff of an upcoming Digital Age.

I´ve been wondering though, if that kind of removal ´thorn´ will work, when I felt to read such an amount of clear Hate exposed coming from Barthi´s keyboard.

Wishing that your operational input will work though – but who knows!?

Thank you for posting, Anand Anubodh.

Madhu

P.S:
You know, Facebook Founder Marc Zuckerberg gave millions of Dollars to the Bavarian Technical University (TUM) to implant an Institute of Ethics re the so-called Social-Networks-Enterprise gigantic movements.

Me – as an elderly woman – have my doubts if IT-programmers and statistics and mathematics (being in a philosophical discussion) will manage to make ´Ethics´ again a shiny word of Essence of a Human Heart.

But- who knows?

Trying my best to digest all information given as a woman, experiencing at the same time that the very Female has not a “good rap” in these times as maybe Bob, one of our (unfortuanately rare) contributors would put it..?

A renewed ´Age of Enlightement seemingly needed, I´d say. Not so rational (?) as the old one, centuries ago.

Whilst Amrito survived being regularly poisoned in his food over the period of a year by Sheela and her gang at the Ranch, and that too with no apparent long-term damage, he also had the good fortune to survive an injection of pure adrenaline in his buttocks, which caused him to cough up blood and almost killed him.

He’s getting on now, but, unsually for a doctor, is also still a smoker.

Jayesh, on the other hand, survived an armed assault from a Pakistani terrorist squad who invaded his hotel in Bombay with AK47s. Several people were shot dead there. Jayesh hid in his bathtub and survived.

That group also shot dead several people in a popular tourist hangout in Colaba, as well shooting dead and injuring many people in Bombay’s Victorias Train Station.

Jayesh has a lot of money. With loads of cash anything’s possible .

Even if their bodies are ready to give up, their brain stems could still be preserved in jars in the Praesidium, ready to still give instructions to the remaining members of the IC. Who knows? This is the 21st century, man.

Unfortunately, in his haste to reveal the depth of his bitterness and resentment of those he clearly has issues with, he has fallen victim to what is known as a ‘Bayesian fallacy’.

Something which is an occupational hazard for the shallow-minded.

He writes: “Sannyasins are dropping like flies, and rarely they reach past their seventies.”

That is ‘perfectly correct’, the average age of Western sannyasins in the obituaries is about 70, when the lifespan for Westerners as a whole is close to 80. Wow! that’s spooky.

From that observation he then make some incredibly silly comparisons, which I don’t believe he takes seriously, as nobody can be that stupid (even though reading his post he tries to convince you that he is).

Divide sannyasins into three: A small group destined to die before their time, a larger group that will die roughly when expected (around 80), and another small group that will live longer than average.

The deaths in the obituaries seen now are from the group ‘before their time’, the fallacy is fixating on the fact that they ‘rarely pass seventy’ as though that reflects on the whole – forgetting that as the years pass the obituaries will change and fill with older sannyasins from the other groups. Totally negating ‘rarely pass seventy’.

He also reminds us that: “In 10-20 years’ time, most sannyasins who met Osho will be off this planet”, mentioning – Amrito and Jayesh – to flaunt his anti-Resort credentials.

Bharti, you need to take into account the other things that will also happen in the near future, like the availability of life-extending technologies for those who have the necessary financial resources. No more cancer, no more alzheimer’s, no more organ failures, a disease-free body able to regenerate indefinitely.

And when you do that, it may be ‘you’ who is off this planet before A &J.

Peter Tosh –
“Captured Live at the Greek Theatre in L.A. on August 23, 1983.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSFQQMFRvfk

Both the songs are in it… Suuuppeeer.

I think this is over-interpreted.

How in this long distance virtual space could we start exchanging something personal, if not by offering and sharing some detail/s of our (outer and inner) life?

And not get into super meta-theoretical and intellectual levels?

As Peter Tosh says, “kove, wisdom and overstanding” are great helpers in overcoming some obstacles.

I do not claim to have all of these; I am only trying….

Otherwise I´ve been following the exchanges between two quite differnt male contributors; both of them – Klaus and Shantam as well – crossing their cultural borderlines, got married, had a child, having to deal more thoroughly, as maybe others here in their life-stories, with collectice unconscious heritages.

And saw that Shanram Prem has been misled, imagining talking to somebody likewise-´hearted´ (?), looking for some other-body (male) to join his meanwhile political agenda.

In the very random, mentally diffused area re the actual and particular topicm, more a darkening and sad, sad story.

Madhu

You would have done things certainly better, Shantam,
haha?! Only stupid that you are not in power.

Dreams of an ego.
Dreams of the past and dreams of the future.