Btw, I have had a Roman Convent schooling. Speaking about my English being British, it’s obvious as India continued with British Education system even after they left.

Also my paternal family spoke more English due to their educational & travelling exposure, so I think my formative thinking process was in English.

* (Disclaimer – only stating my fact).

Osho talks about this.

If doctors could test an enlightened person (where would they find one?) it is possible they might discover certain differences in body chemistry that can be revealed with a blood test (it’s a possibility).

“You may sit in a room where no lobhan has been burnt and repeat, ”Allah” – not just ”Allah” but”Allahooh” with a special emphasis on ”hoo.” You will find that slowly that ”Allah” sound disappears and automatically only ”hoo” will go on being repeated. When this happens, suddenly you will find that your whole room is fragrant with the smell of lobhan. It was discovered that lobhan is similar to a substance that emanates from you.

But the repetition of ”Aum” can never bring about the fragrance of lobhan. This sound strikes another centre which cannot produce this smell.

There are separate areas of fragrance within our body, and these are linked with our thoughts and feelings.

That is why Jainas believe that Mahavira’s body never gave out any bad odor. His body had a certain fragrance, on the basis of which it was possible to recognize a tirthankara. In Mahavira’s time, eight other people claimed to be tirthankaras, but this particular fragrance was not coming from them.None of them was less knowledgeable than Mahavira, they were of the same spiritual stature, but they were not practitioners of that system of spiritual discipline which produces this fragrance, so their claims were rejected.

Buddha also was in no way inferior to Mahavira. He was of the same caliber and state of consciousness as Mahavira, but because he was not following the same method as Mahavira,his body could not emit the same type of fragrance. That fragrance had also emanated from Parshwanath, a tirthankara who had died long before Mahavira’s time. His contemporaries were still living and they confirmed that Mahavira’s fragrance was similar to Parshwanath’s. The ultimate result of a certain mantra process was that particular. The ultimate result of a certain mantra process was that particular fragrance.

This was a memory-based arrangement for determining the authenticity of a tirthankara. So though Mahavira never claimed that he was a tirthankara, he was readily proclaimed to be one. Makhkhali Goshal, on the other hand, did make the claim but could not prove it.

You may wonder at how fragrance was used as the criterion. The test had to be that deep and infallible – words cannot be relied on. The whole individuality of that person should emit the special fragrance that would indicate that a certain flowering had happened within him, that the culmination of the mantra process which gives birth to a tirthankara had happened.”

Osho – ‘Hidden Mysteries’, ch. 1

And your words: “But frankly, I have more male friends, so I many times forget I am in a woman´s body”, pointing out same, same…

I´m grateful though as ever and ever again, exploring the Issues of dissociation and imagination Disembodiment vs. evolving re (re-) embodiments of traumata, especially the quite early happenig ones in our lifetime in the body.

It´s a virtual Chat here after all; so it´s quite difficult if not sometimes impossible to find out if somebody participating is speaking his/her relative truth ‘of not being the body’ or just reliving as a freelancer, one can say, his/her disembodiment-traumata in a by definition dis-embodied area.

I´m writing this having read a lot of angry and partially bitter bits and pieces (of times and times ago) and very understandable re the topic : ” False vs not false teachers or facilitators in or of Satsang circles or/ and synchronistic historical happening in societies at ´large”.
Thank you, Kavita, for the inspiration to go for another of my research here at my place, visiting the website of Science & Non Duality (SAND).

And again, found beautiful helping takes* of talks there which I recommend to readers & writers here.

Madhu

P.S:
*Of a woman facilitator/meditator/therapist/human being.

People are blissed out, dancing and singing away the shackles of 20 centuries of Christian torture and half a century of mechanised murder…

Then…a sinister-looking figure with the countenance like a droopy-faced dog with a particularly virulent form of distemper appears. This is Prabhupada, a misogynist, racist, rapist, holocaust-denier, psychotic Hitlerist, religious supremacist…he skips into the park, like the pied pedo ]of Hamelin chanting “Hare Krishna…”

That`s got to be the first scene of a horror movie on Netflix maybe?

Hang on! It actually happened!

But frankly, I have more male friends, so I many times do forget I am in a woman’s body.

SN, received a message this morning about Swami Tathagat’s (ex- Osho Commune in-charge) death on 24th Jan at 9.25 pm. He was cremated in Lucknow at 2 pm this afternoon.

https://www.oshonews.com/2020/01/25/anand-tathagat/