Comments on: Hitler and Ashoka’s Circle Of Nine – Osho Reveals a Cosmic Mystery

By: shantam prem

shantam prem — Thu, 02 Jan 2020 12:02:23 +0000

Faceless Frank, you can take Arun, can you dare to do likewise to his late boss?

When people are so afraid they need a mask to scream, something must be wrong with their thoughts, with their environment, with their upbringing.

There is no Sheela without her Bhagwan, there is no Bhagwan without adoring crowd.

Life continuous….

By: satchit

satchit — Thu, 02 Jan 2020 11:18:45 +0000

That’s crap, Frank.
Nobody forces you to become a follower of a guru who controls you. Nobody forces you to believe in some ‘Nine Men’ stuff.

By: frank

frank — Thu, 02 Jan 2020 11:08:58 +0000

What is all this proclivity to compare and identify with mythical religious leaders and identities (Mohammed/Buddha/Aryan dreams/Glorious Hindu past etc)?

Everyone who buys in buys in with the same emotional set-up and gets the same pay-off, the classic psycholological shifts of fascism:

Inferiority turns to superiority (losers, outsiders become master race/chosen few). Shame turns to pride, what a buzz! Depression turns to aggression, here we go…low level ass needs kicking…
Yahoo! Zieg heil!

Many people object, saying, for example, stuff like: “But look at what Arun has created – a set of communes. While you are sitting on your arse criticising, he`s getting out and doing it.”

Well, that is exactly the argument that is always used to justify dictators – Hitler built the autobahn and restored the volk`s pride, Mussolini made the trains run on time, Modi is presiding over India`s unprecedented growth etc. etc. And did you ever see what ISIS had actually got together in the Middle East? It was incredible -they had a whole infrastructure, financial system, ministries the size of a couple of countries running like clockwork in their caliphate.

By: frank

frank — Thu, 02 Jan 2020 09:57:47 +0000

I came across this recently.
It`s an excerpt from an interview with Jung talking about Hitler in 1939:
“There is no question but that Hitler belongs in the category of the truly mystic medicine man. As somebody commented about him at the last Nürnberg party congress, since the time of Mohammed nothing like it has been seen in this world.
His body does not suggest strength. The outstanding characteristic of his physiognomy is its dreamy look. I was especially struck by that when I saw pictures taken of him in the Czechoslovakian crisis; there was in his eyes the look of a seer.
This markedly mystic characteristic of Hitler’s is what makes him do things which seem to us illogical, inexplicable, and unreasonable.
So you see, Hitler is a medicine man, a spiritual vessel, a demi-deity or, even better, a myth.”

Sounds more than a little similar to the Hitler/Nine Men story.

The link between gurus/wise men and dictatorial politics has a recurring history.
Swami Arun has been keen to eulogise Modi, saying stuff like `strong individuals are needed to lead nations to their destiny` and rationalising the murderous, racist or sectarian sides, not to mention the perverse ‘Zorba the Buddha’ appellation.

Apart from the Hitler/Nine Men rap, Osho spoke enthusiastically in Pune 2 about the necessity of Stalin`s efforts to preserve the great experiment of communism.

This is not to mention all the Hitler sympathising that has been recorded in the world of other Indian gurus.

Unfortunately, the power that gurus and bigshot psychotherapists wield is not entirely dissimilar to that which dictators wield. For better or for worse, they all seek to control and modify others’ reality.

Watch out, kids!

By: satyadeva

satyadeva — Tue, 31 Dec 2019 19:34:50 +0000

As it’s New Year’s Eve, we interrupt this serious discussion for some music, all the way from Russia…

https://loveosho.com/blog-1/music-for-the-master

(With thanks to Love Osho, who published this in June 2015).

By: frank

frank — Sun, 29 Dec 2019 14:44:09 +0000

Yogi, that is nonsense.
The actual headline in the Hindu News of the World was:
“Nine unknown men caught bashing bishop in occult circle akashik CCTV sting.
Meatbeater held and later discharged.”

By: Kavita

Kavita — Sun, 29 Dec 2019 13:45:11 +0000

Yes, AY, seems Lawyers are the only ones who have had a bull market, from time immemorial & continue to!

By: anand yogi

anand yogi — Sun, 29 Dec 2019 13:22:31 +0000

Again the ignorant baboons of Sannyas News opine about spiritual matters of which they know nothing!
In mighty Bhorat, when true servant of God has reached divine status and become avatar, everything he does is holy!

Therefore, when Sai Baba demanded holy oil to be rubbed into holy lingam and buggered his young disciples into state of no-mind, it is as an act of grace, a gift from God for advancement of disciples towards Moksha whilst also teaching them holy value of observing silence in deference to the God!

Same with Bishop Leadbeater, who was clearly being guided by Nine Unknown Pedos of Mighty Bhorat! The unconscious baboons of the West could not understand and this also infected holy Bhorat: Headlines even appeared in Hindu News of the World:
”Meatbeater teaches child disciples to bash the bishop!”

Of course there were some ignorant baboons and parents of receivers of divine nectar who, being corrupted by perverse western ideas, wanted to sue Baba and Leadbeater in the courts! Their utterly egoistic ideas, encapsulated in the godless slogan “Metoo”, are a serious threat to true religion up until today!

Fortunately for the future of consciousness, in mighty Bhorat even Police and Judges have correct grasp of true religion and after few rituals involving incense, brown envelopes stuffed with holy parchment and punishments for evil-doers who speak against God, it all turned out perfectly correctly!

Thus, the Nine Unknown Pedos of mighty Bhorat remained unknown which is an absolute must for the future welfare of humanity as has been tirelessly proclaimed by the Nine themselves!

Also, perfectly correct, Kavita!
Story of spiritual court-cases from Theosophical times up till present day shows that it is absolutely necessary, vital for tradition of nitty-gritty details of the future spiritual welfare of humanity to be eternally decided by lawyers!

Yahoo!
Hari Om!

By: Kavita

Kavita — Sun, 29 Dec 2019 12:15:45 +0000

There’s probably more chance of those being born as the current OIF chiefs!

By: Kavita

Kavita — Sun, 29 Dec 2019 12:04:02 +0000

“Then she sued K`s dad for control of K (granted in a British colonial court).”

Frank, if I correctly remember, some two decades ago reading in Mary Lutyens’s ‘Krishnamurti:The Years of Awakening ‘/ ‘Krishnamurti:The Years of Fulfilment’, that first it was K’s father who claimed for K’s cusdody in an Indian court.