<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: What Is The Value Of Meditation? Are Its Effect And                                                                                                                                                         Reach Over-Hyped?</title>
	<atom:link href="http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8492/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8492</link>
	<description>welcomes all sannyasins</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2026 15:22:40 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.6</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8492#comment-96195</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2019 20:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://sannyasnews.org/now/?p=8492#comment-96195</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Time is something I tend to be short of, Veet, so I can&#039;t guarantee anything at present. Frankly, SN itself takes quite a lot of my time, and I have other commitments as well.

I think you&#039;ll need to be more specific as to exactly what you require, including how much time it might take, before I can give you a realistic answer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time is something I tend to be short of, Veet, so I can&#8217;t guarantee anything at present. Frankly, SN itself takes quite a lot of my time, and I have other commitments as well.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;ll need to be more specific as to exactly what you require, including how much time it might take, before I can give you a realistic answer.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Klaus</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8492#comment-96192</link>
		<dc:creator>Klaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2019 18:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://sannyasnews.org/now/?p=8492#comment-96192</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi Kavita

Thanks for your interest.

In my small town, Bhagwan was quite a hit around 1979-1985: out of my high school class 6 already quite close friends took Sannyas, on the (party) plane to Bombay half of the passengers were sannyasins. In Nepal I met a high school teacher of mine who had taken Sannyas: he inspired me to go for a meditation at the Kathmandu Sannyas centre and to book a group in Poona; when hiking around Annapurna I met a Sannyasin from Munich...

But then I decided for the meditation course in Bodhgaya.

After returning to Germany in 1982 for about 3 years everything was &quot;Sannyas&quot;: I lived in a mixed commune of sannyasins and non-sannyasins. I have been to the Centres in Schloss Wolfsbrunnen, Amsterdam, Medina and finally to Rajneeshpuram as a paying guest.

However, I always felt a little bit like an outsider: 
So much hype. I am not a good sannyasin. After the silent meditation period.

My Sannyas letter says:
&quot;A Sannyasin is committed to be a stranger,
he is committed to be an outsider.
He has chosen consciously:
I am going to live in joy.
And the only condition that is needed
to fulfil it is silence.
If you become a little more silent
more and more joy will arise out of you.
The moment you are totally silent
an infinite explosion of joy happens.&quot;

That indeed fitted me well: 
Anand Prasanto meaning &#039;Bliss in deep silence&#039;.

So after &quot;the Ranch&quot;, Bhagwan wasn&#039;t the be-all and end-all of everything - I kept following my impulses doing a lot of meditation at home and in nature, some Tibetan meditation retreats, Mantra chanting, Sufi zikhr, Satsang with various persons. Finishing studies. Working.
 
40 years down the road I feel trust in what is happening. 
My favourite is walking in nature: I carry nordic walking sticks to shift me around - otherwise I would just remain standing or sitting, looking at the sky and the colours.

My plan is to have a second home somewhere in Asia, like Nepal, India, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Thailand or Malaysia - and then to &quot;follow the better weather&quot;....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kavita</p>
<p>Thanks for your interest.</p>
<p>In my small town, Bhagwan was quite a hit around 1979-1985: out of my high school class 6 already quite close friends took Sannyas, on the (party) plane to Bombay half of the passengers were sannyasins. In Nepal I met a high school teacher of mine who had taken Sannyas: he inspired me to go for a meditation at the Kathmandu Sannyas centre and to book a group in Poona; when hiking around Annapurna I met a Sannyasin from Munich&#8230;</p>
<p>But then I decided for the meditation course in Bodhgaya.</p>
<p>After returning to Germany in 1982 for about 3 years everything was &#8220;Sannyas&#8221;: I lived in a mixed commune of sannyasins and non-sannyasins. I have been to the Centres in Schloss Wolfsbrunnen, Amsterdam, Medina and finally to Rajneeshpuram as a paying guest.</p>
<p>However, I always felt a little bit like an outsider:<br />
So much hype. I am not a good sannyasin. After the silent meditation period.</p>
<p>My Sannyas letter says:<br />
&#8220;A Sannyasin is committed to be a stranger,<br />
he is committed to be an outsider.<br />
He has chosen consciously:<br />
I am going to live in joy.<br />
And the only condition that is needed<br />
to fulfil it is silence.<br />
If you become a little more silent<br />
more and more joy will arise out of you.<br />
The moment you are totally silent<br />
an infinite explosion of joy happens.&#8221;</p>
<p>That indeed fitted me well:<br />
Anand Prasanto meaning &#8216;Bliss in deep silence&#8217;.</p>
<p>So after &#8220;the Ranch&#8221;, Bhagwan wasn&#8217;t the be-all and end-all of everything &#8211; I kept following my impulses doing a lot of meditation at home and in nature, some Tibetan meditation retreats, Mantra chanting, Sufi zikhr, Satsang with various persons. Finishing studies. Working.</p>
<p>40 years down the road I feel trust in what is happening.<br />
My favourite is walking in nature: I carry nordic walking sticks to shift me around &#8211; otherwise I would just remain standing or sitting, looking at the sky and the colours.</p>
<p>My plan is to have a second home somewhere in Asia, like Nepal, India, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Thailand or Malaysia &#8211; and then to &#8220;follow the better weather&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: sw. veet (francesco)</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8492#comment-96189</link>
		<dc:creator>sw. veet (francesco)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2019 17:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://sannyasnews.org/now/?p=8492#comment-96189</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[SD, done. I called it (provisionally) &#039;6 Chakras of Separation&#039;.

Would you like, when you have time, to receive and send a few emails among SN&#039;s friends to exchange mobile numbers?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SD, done. I called it (provisionally) &#8217;6 Chakras of Separation&#8217;.</p>
<p>Would you like, when you have time, to receive and send a few emails among SN&#8217;s friends to exchange mobile numbers?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Arpana</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8492#comment-96182</link>
		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2019 14:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://sannyasnews.org/now/?p=8492#comment-96182</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[We develop a story, which includes the idea of a self. The &#039;&#039;meditation journey‘’ is a process of examining the &#039;&#039;story&#039;&#039; and realising that is all it is, and a self is part of the story; but at the same time, the &#039;&#039;story&#039;&#039; is at worse a crutch, at best an anchor. 

Meditation, working on ourselves, self-reflection, being as honest with ourselves as we can, refines the story, integrates the stories, until eventually there is only one &#039;&#039;story&#039;&#039;. 

The illusion of a story, a self, is a tool that has to be transcended.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We develop a story, which includes the idea of a self. The &#8221;meditation journey‘’ is a process of examining the &#8221;story&#8221; and realising that is all it is, and a self is part of the story; but at the same time, the &#8221;story&#8221; is at worse a crutch, at best an anchor. </p>
<p>Meditation, working on ourselves, self-reflection, being as honest with ourselves as we can, refines the story, integrates the stories, until eventually there is only one &#8221;story&#8221;. </p>
<p>The illusion of a story, a self, is a tool that has to be transcended.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8492#comment-96181</link>
		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2019 13:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://sannyasnews.org/now/?p=8492#comment-96181</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I tend to agree with UG in the sense that all these things we think we have to do in order to become a Buddha are in fact counter-productive. Even the term self-awareness is dubious and up for debate. Who or what is it that is aware etc?  

“There is no self” is the granddaddy of fake Buddhist quotes. It has survived so long because of its superficial resemblance to the teaching on anatta, or not-self, which was one of the Buddha’s tools for putting an end to clinging. 

Even though he neither affirmed nor denied the existence of a self, he did talk of the process by which the mind creates many senses of self — what he called “I-making” and “my-making” — as it pursues its desires.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to agree with UG in the sense that all these things we think we have to do in order to become a Buddha are in fact counter-productive. Even the term self-awareness is dubious and up for debate. Who or what is it that is aware etc?  </p>
<p>“There is no self” is the granddaddy of fake Buddhist quotes. It has survived so long because of its superficial resemblance to the teaching on anatta, or not-self, which was one of the Buddha’s tools for putting an end to clinging. </p>
<p>Even though he neither affirmed nor denied the existence of a self, he did talk of the process by which the mind creates many senses of self — what he called “I-making” and “my-making” — as it pursues its desires.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Arpana</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8492#comment-96180</link>
		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2019 13:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://sannyasnews.org/now/?p=8492#comment-96180</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Self-consciousness is the stage before self-awareness. Awareness of self-consciousness is hard work, and not running away from that is a stage on the road to self-awareness.

Wearing a mala and red clothes is also destructive to the identity that the standard clothes people wore gave them; another part of the heightening of self-awareness process, the early part of which is self-consciousness. There is no self-awareness without going through self-consciousness.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Self-consciousness is the stage before self-awareness. Awareness of self-consciousness is hard work, and not running away from that is a stage on the road to self-awareness.</p>
<p>Wearing a mala and red clothes is also destructive to the identity that the standard clothes people wore gave them; another part of the heightening of self-awareness process, the early part of which is self-consciousness. There is no self-awareness without going through self-consciousness.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8492#comment-96179</link>
		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2019 13:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://sannyasnews.org/now/?p=8492#comment-96179</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Changing names and wearing orange and a mala were gimmicks Laxmi cooked up to spread the word and they worked. 50 years down the line and there are still some who believe those things bring heightened awareness. Try wearing an orange robe and a mala and take a walk down the local high street. It will bring a lot of self-consciousness - but self-awareness? Better achieved sitting quietly in nature somewhere.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Changing names and wearing orange and a mala were gimmicks Laxmi cooked up to spread the word and they worked. 50 years down the line and there are still some who believe those things bring heightened awareness. Try wearing an orange robe and a mala and take a walk down the local high street. It will bring a lot of self-consciousness &#8211; but self-awareness? Better achieved sitting quietly in nature somewhere.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8492#comment-96178</link>
		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2019 13:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://sannyasnews.org/now/?p=8492#comment-96178</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[SD, 
Maybe you can bring the comments in response to Klaus at the end of his post. They are hidden somewhere in the middle. Then it is easy to relate with the continuity.

MOD:
The comments are handled automatically by Word Press, Shantam. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SD,<br />
Maybe you can bring the comments in response to Klaus at the end of his post. They are hidden somewhere in the middle. Then it is easy to relate with the continuity.</p>
<p>MOD:<br />
The comments are handled automatically by Word Press, Shantam. </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: madhu dagmar frantzen</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8492#comment-96177</link>
		<dc:creator>madhu dagmar frantzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2019 13:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://sannyasnews.org/now/?p=8492#comment-96177</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Yes, Klaus, it takes a lot of energy to discover/develop some inner sense of direction and taking the risk to follow that: one step at a time.

Thank you very much for your contribution of your &quot;very personal view&quot;, as you say (and your open-mindedness - I presume - re other &quot;personal views&quot;).

One step at a time....

Madhu]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Klaus, it takes a lot of energy to discover/develop some inner sense of direction and taking the risk to follow that: one step at a time.</p>
<p>Thank you very much for your contribution of your &#8220;very personal view&#8221;, as you say (and your open-mindedness &#8211; I presume &#8211; re other &#8220;personal views&#8221;).</p>
<p>One step at a time&#8230;.</p>
<p>Madhu</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8492#comment-96176</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2019 13:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://sannyasnews.org/now/?p=8492#comment-96176</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Well, for me this would have zero attraction, especially as I haven&#039;t owned a cell-phone since I left mine on a train at an airport last Christmas and have managed ok all year. Besides, I find the time I spend each day at this laptop is more than enough exposure to the cyber-world.

In fact, I feel freer without the temptation to be looking at the thing, which, seeing so many constantly gazing at their little gadgets while walking down the street and on public transport, seems to me to have become one of the defining means of &#039;hypnosis&#039; of the age, a huge &#039;distraction&#039; for millions of people to bury themselves in.

But sure, if it &#039;floats your boat&#039;, why not take the initiative and create this network ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, for me this would have zero attraction, especially as I haven&#8217;t owned a cell-phone since I left mine on a train at an airport last Christmas and have managed ok all year. Besides, I find the time I spend each day at this laptop is more than enough exposure to the cyber-world.</p>
<p>In fact, I feel freer without the temptation to be looking at the thing, which, seeing so many constantly gazing at their little gadgets while walking down the street and on public transport, seems to me to have become one of the defining means of &#8216;hypnosis&#8217; of the age, a huge &#8216;distraction&#8217; for millions of people to bury themselves in.</p>
<p>But sure, if it &#8216;floats your boat&#8217;, why not take the initiative and create this network ?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
