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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
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		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2019 23:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re your last paragraph: 
Er, no, Veet, it isn&#039;t. Sorry about that. 

Yellow card!

Re your speculation on how various people would play football: 
Well, perhaps you over-think it all, generalising, putting people in &#039;boxes&#039;. 

Who knows what might happen &#039;in the moment&#039;? Sometimes there&#039;s a fine line between &#039;angels&#039; and &#039;villains&#039;, although most are at neither extreme, but could potentially be provoked under certain circumstances. 

Second yellow card!
Off you go, signor!
Early bath!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re your last paragraph:<br />
Er, no, Veet, it isn&#8217;t. Sorry about that. </p>
<p>Yellow card!</p>
<p>Re your speculation on how various people would play football:<br />
Well, perhaps you over-think it all, generalising, putting people in &#8216;boxes&#8217;. </p>
<p>Who knows what might happen &#8216;in the moment&#8217;? Sometimes there&#8217;s a fine line between &#8216;angels&#8217; and &#8216;villains&#8217;, although most are at neither extreme, but could potentially be provoked under certain circumstances. </p>
<p>Second yellow card!<br />
Off you go, signor!<br />
Early bath!</p>
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		<title>By: sw. veet (francesco)</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8032#comment-88893</link>
		<dc:creator>sw. veet (francesco)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2019 14:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Satyadeva, about your shrink Indian friend who took himself too seriously, in my opinion another risk in doing things like leading an Osho meditation or running an OM, thus expressing our own preferences, is that inevitably we will not be able to please everyone, given that everyone has their own preferences, aesthetic and character; also with regard to how much passion to put in defending the choices that derive from our personal inclinations, in the case of possible criticism.

For example, after a pause of about ten years (time dedicated to the socio-economic analysis of my unemployment) I&#039;m playing football again with a group of people, among them relatives and acquaintances, and unlike the past I can&#039;t take seriously the fights that happen during the game due to the beating we can give or take, more or less unintentionally.

Today, I can&#039;t get angry, in fact I often find myself mediating the fights (with success, enviable, by MOD), and the reason for me is that while I&#039;m playing I&#039;m already happy to be there, and winning the match is something more, a bonus.

It seems to me that the English gentlemen here, unlike Indians and Italians, would on average not play these kind of passionate matches, being the reason that a soccer game should not be taken too seriously.

But symmetrically, it could be said that not playing a football match for some verbal quarrel is just as much about taking yourself or your point of view too seriously.

However, personally I have never had any problems with English sannyasins; during the groups I never took their tendency to give lessons about what to take seriously.

SD, maybe your surname is Brown?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gMrePRB0Fg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Satyadeva, about your shrink Indian friend who took himself too seriously, in my opinion another risk in doing things like leading an Osho meditation or running an OM, thus expressing our own preferences, is that inevitably we will not be able to please everyone, given that everyone has their own preferences, aesthetic and character; also with regard to how much passion to put in defending the choices that derive from our personal inclinations, in the case of possible criticism.</p>
<p>For example, after a pause of about ten years (time dedicated to the socio-economic analysis of my unemployment) I&#8217;m playing football again with a group of people, among them relatives and acquaintances, and unlike the past I can&#8217;t take seriously the fights that happen during the game due to the beating we can give or take, more or less unintentionally.</p>
<p>Today, I can&#8217;t get angry, in fact I often find myself mediating the fights (with success, enviable, by MOD), and the reason for me is that while I&#8217;m playing I&#8217;m already happy to be there, and winning the match is something more, a bonus.</p>
<p>It seems to me that the English gentlemen here, unlike Indians and Italians, would on average not play these kind of passionate matches, being the reason that a soccer game should not be taken too seriously.</p>
<p>But symmetrically, it could be said that not playing a football match for some verbal quarrel is just as much about taking yourself or your point of view too seriously.</p>
<p>However, personally I have never had any problems with English sannyasins; during the groups I never took their tendency to give lessons about what to take seriously.</p>
<p>SD, maybe your surname is Brown?<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gMrePRB0Fg" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gMrePRB0Fg</a></p>
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		<title>By: swami anand anubodh</title>
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		<dc:creator>swami anand anubodh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2019 13:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yogi,

I hear an entrepreneur has noticed your posts on SN and wants to offer you a once in a lifetime (or any other lifetime) business investment, in an orange grove, in Northern Siberia.

He feels your writings show a discerning gusto, just the qualities he is looking for in a partner. But you must act quickly! As others are knocking on his door. So he suggests that you post your full banking details on SN - without delay! - so that he can arrange the transfer of your funds to his Swiss account immediately. Remember - time is short!

Then all you have to do is relax back and dream of how you intend to spend your 20% PA return.

Quickly, Yogi, without delay!

P.S:
If you have any doubts then please feel free to verify that: Lagos is the capital of Nigeria. Just to put your mind at ease.

P.P.S:
If you would rather invest by cash, then he can dispatch his &#039;mule&#039;, Singh Iqbal, to do the fetching and carrying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yogi,</p>
<p>I hear an entrepreneur has noticed your posts on SN and wants to offer you a once in a lifetime (or any other lifetime) business investment, in an orange grove, in Northern Siberia.</p>
<p>He feels your writings show a discerning gusto, just the qualities he is looking for in a partner. But you must act quickly! As others are knocking on his door. So he suggests that you post your full banking details on SN &#8211; without delay! &#8211; so that he can arrange the transfer of your funds to his Swiss account immediately. Remember &#8211; time is short!</p>
<p>Then all you have to do is relax back and dream of how you intend to spend your 20% PA return.</p>
<p>Quickly, Yogi, without delay!</p>
<p>P.S:<br />
If you have any doubts then please feel free to verify that: Lagos is the capital of Nigeria. Just to put your mind at ease.</p>
<p>P.P.S:<br />
If you would rather invest by cash, then he can dispatch his &#8216;mule&#8217;, Singh Iqbal, to do the fetching and carrying.</p>
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		<title>By: anand yogi</title>
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		<dc:creator>anand yogi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2019 09:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Certainly, the cowards who are not real men wearing true underpants and revealing their marital status will be afraid of the might of Shantam`s words! The astronomical and astrological wisdom of which burst forth like cosmic radiation from Uranus!

This is understandable, for, as an avatar of the true interpretation of Osho`s vision, Shantam is the most dangerous man since Jesus Christ!

Despite all the vile words of the repulsive white men with Indian names, the truth will live on and he will survive!

Yahoo!
Hari Om!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw3eP2JPFIY

Amen!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly, the cowards who are not real men wearing true underpants and revealing their marital status will be afraid of the might of Shantam`s words! The astronomical and astrological wisdom of which burst forth like cosmic radiation from Uranus!</p>
<p>This is understandable, for, as an avatar of the true interpretation of Osho`s vision, Shantam is the most dangerous man since Jesus Christ!</p>
<p>Despite all the vile words of the repulsive white men with Indian names, the truth will live on and he will survive!</p>
<p>Yahoo!<br />
Hari Om!</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw3eP2JPFIY" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw3eP2JPFIY</a></p>
<p>Amen!</p>
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		<title>By: satchit</title>
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		<dc:creator>satchit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2019 05:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, I know what you mean, Anubodh.

For me, it is okay if he plays the faceless-card. It is his freedom. But it is also my freedom to reveal what I want to reveal.

I could live close to him in the Black Forest: if I have no desire to meet him physically, why should I reveal it?

And he forgets one thing: saying that he does not want to communicate because of facelessness is also communication.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I know what you mean, Anubodh.</p>
<p>For me, it is okay if he plays the faceless-card. It is his freedom. But it is also my freedom to reveal what I want to reveal.</p>
<p>I could live close to him in the Black Forest: if I have no desire to meet him physically, why should I reveal it?</p>
<p>And he forgets one thing: saying that he does not want to communicate because of facelessness is also communication.</p>
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		<title>By: swami anand anubodh</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8032#comment-88887</link>
		<dc:creator>swami anand anubodh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2019 22:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Satchit,

Whilst Shantam Prem seems to be treated on SN by many (if not all) as a harmless figure of fun, there is one thing I find genuinely unpleasant about his character. It&#039;s the way that whenever he has made a fool of himself, or lost an argument, he always plays the &#039;faceless&#039; accusation card. 

It&#039;s his way of trying to save &#039;face&#039; by pulling from his rear end a code of &#039;chivalry&#039; which (according to him) the victor has violated, and therefore everything can be dismissed.

What he does not realise (or care about) is that any personal information he can elicit from you on SN, is also revealed to the 4.4 billion other Internet users.

Is that really a good idea? Just to satisfy his curiosity, or to give him ammo for mischief-making at a later date?

&quot;Satchit, would you be courageous and man enough to tell something about you, your age, your marital status, your race etc?&quot;

A &#039;goad&#039; to you, from him, in the previous topic.

Translates as:
&quot;Satchit, if you don&#039;t reveal enough personal information about yourself for somebody to commit &#039;identity fraud&#039; then not only are you not a man! You are also a coward!&#039;

Sadly, you partially rose to the bait and revealed your age. Knowing someone&#039;s age immediately tells a fraudster what type of fraud to target you with. At your age (if it was true) they could assume you had savings, and are therefore potentially ripe for an investment swindle.

Shantam Prem has no fear of identity theft, as thieves looking at his would conclude he does not have a life worth stealing. In fact, they may take pity on him, and offer him one they have - which is surplus to requirements.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Satchit,</p>
<p>Whilst Shantam Prem seems to be treated on SN by many (if not all) as a harmless figure of fun, there is one thing I find genuinely unpleasant about his character. It&#8217;s the way that whenever he has made a fool of himself, or lost an argument, he always plays the &#8216;faceless&#8217; accusation card. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s his way of trying to save &#8216;face&#8217; by pulling from his rear end a code of &#8216;chivalry&#8217; which (according to him) the victor has violated, and therefore everything can be dismissed.</p>
<p>What he does not realise (or care about) is that any personal information he can elicit from you on SN, is also revealed to the 4.4 billion other Internet users.</p>
<p>Is that really a good idea? Just to satisfy his curiosity, or to give him ammo for mischief-making at a later date?</p>
<p>&#8220;Satchit, would you be courageous and man enough to tell something about you, your age, your marital status, your race etc?&#8221;</p>
<p>A &#8216;goad&#8217; to you, from him, in the previous topic.</p>
<p>Translates as:<br />
&#8220;Satchit, if you don&#8217;t reveal enough personal information about yourself for somebody to commit &#8216;identity fraud&#8217; then not only are you not a man! You are also a coward!&#8217;</p>
<p>Sadly, you partially rose to the bait and revealed your age. Knowing someone&#8217;s age immediately tells a fraudster what type of fraud to target you with. At your age (if it was true) they could assume you had savings, and are therefore potentially ripe for an investment swindle.</p>
<p>Shantam Prem has no fear of identity theft, as thieves looking at his would conclude he does not have a life worth stealing. In fact, they may take pity on him, and offer him one they have &#8211; which is surplus to requirements.</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8032#comment-88886</link>
		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2019 18:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have no interest to communicate with faceless people, it matters not what kind of truthful tags they hang around their names. 

The cowards calling themselves &#039;Swami&#039; are repulsive in my eyes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no interest to communicate with faceless people, it matters not what kind of truthful tags they hang around their names. </p>
<p>The cowards calling themselves &#8216;Swami&#8217; are repulsive in my eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: swami anand anubodh</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8032#comment-88885</link>
		<dc:creator>swami anand anubodh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2019 18:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Satchit,

I suspect Swami Joseph is jealous of many things; top of his list is probably the way all things &#039;Osho&#039; continue on without any positive or constructive input from himself (and cares little for his &#039;narcissistic&#039; exile in obscurity).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Satchit,</p>
<p>I suspect Swami Joseph is jealous of many things; top of his list is probably the way all things &#8216;Osho&#8217; continue on without any positive or constructive input from himself (and cares little for his &#8216;narcissistic&#8217; exile in obscurity).</p>
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		<title>By: satchit</title>
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		<dc:creator>satchit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2019 16:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anubodh, maybe Shantam is just jealous.

Poor fellow has only Indian names. Maybe we should give him a Christian name.

Today is &#039;Joseph&#039; name day. We could call him from now on Joseph. Or if he wants, Swami Joseph, so that the change is not so hard. 

Would you like it, Shantam?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anubodh, maybe Shantam is just jealous.</p>
<p>Poor fellow has only Indian names. Maybe we should give him a Christian name.</p>
<p>Today is &#8216;Joseph&#8217; name day. We could call him from now on Joseph. Or if he wants, Swami Joseph, so that the change is not so hard. </p>
<p>Would you like it, Shantam?</p>
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		<title>By: swami anand anubodh</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8032#comment-88883</link>
		<dc:creator>swami anand anubodh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2019 14:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shantam Prem says:

&quot;And where is the community of westerners with Indian names?

Satyadeva, you can also ask yourself, what is wrong with the Christian names, why this hollowness of Indian names? 

In my opinion, it is downright ugly, inhuman, disrespectful to the blood and family heritage. Thanks to human intelligence, that fashion and fad is over.&quot;

SP, when you speak of &quot;intelligence&quot;, it&#039;s clearly something you lack in abundance. This &quot;fad&quot; of westerners taking Indian names was Osho&#039;s &#039;edict&#039;.

Did you not know this?

All of your scathing criticisms are in reality a criticism of Osho, not westerners.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shantam Prem says:</p>
<p>&#8220;And where is the community of westerners with Indian names?</p>
<p>Satyadeva, you can also ask yourself, what is wrong with the Christian names, why this hollowness of Indian names? </p>
<p>In my opinion, it is downright ugly, inhuman, disrespectful to the blood and family heritage. Thanks to human intelligence, that fashion and fad is over.&#8221;</p>
<p>SP, when you speak of &#8220;intelligence&#8221;, it&#8217;s clearly something you lack in abundance. This &#8220;fad&#8221; of westerners taking Indian names was Osho&#8217;s &#8216;edict&#8217;.</p>
<p>Did you not know this?</p>
<p>All of your scathing criticisms are in reality a criticism of Osho, not westerners.</p>
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