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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
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		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2019 07:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Veet, 
Satisfied single is great state, like a taxi which is standing still. I know this very well...then came a butterfly!

So start the stories....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Veet,<br />
Satisfied single is great state, like a taxi which is standing still. I know this very well&#8230;then came a butterfly!</p>
<p>So start the stories&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: sw. veet (francesco)</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8017#comment-88790</link>
		<dc:creator>sw. veet (francesco)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2019 23:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Satyadeva, to me the most critical aspect of relationships is the attachment, my or my partner&#039;s, so I mentioned the polyamories, imagining that the new generations of talking monkeys were less attached to the instinct of the alpha male, but this type of relationship could concern only those who want to experiment with variety, since there is no previous and profound need for intimacy.

To me today, as a satisfied single, it gives me a headache to think about the hypothesis of sharing intimacy with more than one woman, not to mention the problems of competition in case of the presence of other men.

However, polyamory seems to support more the instinctual nature of the male than the female one, if without the presence of other active males claiming their share of cake.

It seems that usually for women one male is enough, although the best of the pack; the problems arise when he is found not to be such.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Satyadeva, to me the most critical aspect of relationships is the attachment, my or my partner&#8217;s, so I mentioned the polyamories, imagining that the new generations of talking monkeys were less attached to the instinct of the alpha male, but this type of relationship could concern only those who want to experiment with variety, since there is no previous and profound need for intimacy.</p>
<p>To me today, as a satisfied single, it gives me a headache to think about the hypothesis of sharing intimacy with more than one woman, not to mention the problems of competition in case of the presence of other men.</p>
<p>However, polyamory seems to support more the instinctual nature of the male than the female one, if without the presence of other active males claiming their share of cake.</p>
<p>It seems that usually for women one male is enough, although the best of the pack; the problems arise when he is found not to be such.</p>
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		<title>By: sw. veet (francesco)</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8017#comment-88789</link>
		<dc:creator>sw. veet (francesco)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2019 22:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shantam, if it is not a cliché, whom do you want to be interested in the quotations from our individual realities?

Btw, I have already spoken from my own realities, but you, obviously, were too busy with your buddhahood and have neither read nor commented on it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shantam, if it is not a cliché, whom do you want to be interested in the quotations from our individual realities?</p>
<p>Btw, I have already spoken from my own realities, but you, obviously, were too busy with your buddhahood and have neither read nor commented on it.</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8017#comment-88787</link>
		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2019 18:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about you, Veet? 
Better we speak from our own realities rather than quoting convenient cliches like, &quot;We are all Buddhas.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about you, Veet?<br />
Better we speak from our own realities rather than quoting convenient cliches like, &#8220;We are all Buddhas.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8017#comment-88786</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2019 17:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although I suppose Polyamory might suit some people (a small percentage), I recall watching the Louis Theroux tv documentary and being distinctly unimpressed by it all. I mean, relationships worthy of the name demand full, whole-hearted attention, commitment, they can be hard work. Having more than one of similar intensity would seem next to impossible for the vast majority.  

The following notes from &#039;Wiki&#039; confirm these impressions:

&quot;Criticism
Polyamory, along with other forms of consensual non-monogamy, is not without drawbacks. Morin (1999) and Fleckenstein (2014) noted that certain conditions are favorable to good experiences with polyamory, but that these differ from the general population.[79][81] Heavy public promotion of polyamory can have the unintended effect of attracting people to it for whom it is not well-suited. Unequal power dynamics, such as financial dependence, can also inappropriately influence a person to agree to a polyamorous relationship against their true desires. 

Even in more equal power dynamic relationships, the reluctant partner may feel coerced into a proposed non-monogamous arrangement due to the implication that if they refuse, the proposer will pursue other partners anyway, will break off the relationship, or that the one refusing will be accused of intolerance.[82][83]

To date, scientific study of polyamory has run into bias and methodological issues.

A significant number of studies rely on small samples, often recruited from referrals, snowball sampling, and websites devoted to polyamory. Individuals recruited in this manner tend to be relatively homogeneous in terms of values, beliefs, and demographics, which limits the generalizability of the findings.[84]

These samples also tend to be self-selecting toward individuals with positive experiences, whereas those who found polyamory to be distressing or hurtful might be more reluctant to participate in the research.[84]
Most of the studies rely entirely on self-report measures. Generally, self-reports of the degree of well-being and relationship satisfaction over time are flawed, and are often based on belief rather than actual experience.[84][83]

Self-report measures are also at risk of self-enhancement bias, as subjects may feel pressure to give positive responses about their well-being and relationship satisfaction in the face of stereotype threat.[84] This disparity was noted by Moors et al. (2014), who compared respondents expressing interest in consensual non-monogamy drawn from the general population to those drawn from online communities devoted to discussing positive aspects of nonmonogamy.[75]

In academic works involving volunteer interviews, the participant is almost always a single partner of such relationships or a small group where certain partners are not present, resulting in one-sided views being recorded about the relationship.[83]

Polyamorous relationships present practical pitfalls:

One common complaint from participants is time management, as more partners means one must divide one&#039;s time and attention up between them, leaving less for each.[83][85]

Related is that the complexity of the arrangement can lead to so much effort being spent on the relationship that personal, individual needs can be overlooked.[86]

Another potential issue is lopsided power dynamics, such as one partner having significantly more resources, being more attractive or being much better at initiating new relationships, making the arrangement clearly more beneficial to that partner than the others.[83]

The strong emphasis on communication can unintentionally marginalize partners who are less articulate.[86]

Finally, negotiating the sometimes complex rules and boundaries of these relationships can be emotionally taxing, as can reconciling situations where one partner goes outside those boundaries.[86][83][85]&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I suppose Polyamory might suit some people (a small percentage), I recall watching the Louis Theroux tv documentary and being distinctly unimpressed by it all. I mean, relationships worthy of the name demand full, whole-hearted attention, commitment, they can be hard work. Having more than one of similar intensity would seem next to impossible for the vast majority.  </p>
<p>The following notes from &#8216;Wiki&#8217; confirm these impressions:</p>
<p>&#8220;Criticism<br />
Polyamory, along with other forms of consensual non-monogamy, is not without drawbacks. Morin (1999) and Fleckenstein (2014) noted that certain conditions are favorable to good experiences with polyamory, but that these differ from the general population.[79][81] Heavy public promotion of polyamory can have the unintended effect of attracting people to it for whom it is not well-suited. Unequal power dynamics, such as financial dependence, can also inappropriately influence a person to agree to a polyamorous relationship against their true desires. </p>
<p>Even in more equal power dynamic relationships, the reluctant partner may feel coerced into a proposed non-monogamous arrangement due to the implication that if they refuse, the proposer will pursue other partners anyway, will break off the relationship, or that the one refusing will be accused of intolerance.[82][83]</p>
<p>To date, scientific study of polyamory has run into bias and methodological issues.</p>
<p>A significant number of studies rely on small samples, often recruited from referrals, snowball sampling, and websites devoted to polyamory. Individuals recruited in this manner tend to be relatively homogeneous in terms of values, beliefs, and demographics, which limits the generalizability of the findings.[84]</p>
<p>These samples also tend to be self-selecting toward individuals with positive experiences, whereas those who found polyamory to be distressing or hurtful might be more reluctant to participate in the research.[84]<br />
Most of the studies rely entirely on self-report measures. Generally, self-reports of the degree of well-being and relationship satisfaction over time are flawed, and are often based on belief rather than actual experience.[84][83]</p>
<p>Self-report measures are also at risk of self-enhancement bias, as subjects may feel pressure to give positive responses about their well-being and relationship satisfaction in the face of stereotype threat.[84] This disparity was noted by Moors et al. (2014), who compared respondents expressing interest in consensual non-monogamy drawn from the general population to those drawn from online communities devoted to discussing positive aspects of nonmonogamy.[75]</p>
<p>In academic works involving volunteer interviews, the participant is almost always a single partner of such relationships or a small group where certain partners are not present, resulting in one-sided views being recorded about the relationship.[83]</p>
<p>Polyamorous relationships present practical pitfalls:</p>
<p>One common complaint from participants is time management, as more partners means one must divide one&#8217;s time and attention up between them, leaving less for each.[83][85]</p>
<p>Related is that the complexity of the arrangement can lead to so much effort being spent on the relationship that personal, individual needs can be overlooked.[86]</p>
<p>Another potential issue is lopsided power dynamics, such as one partner having significantly more resources, being more attractive or being much better at initiating new relationships, making the arrangement clearly more beneficial to that partner than the others.[83]</p>
<p>The strong emphasis on communication can unintentionally marginalize partners who are less articulate.[86]</p>
<p>Finally, negotiating the sometimes complex rules and boundaries of these relationships can be emotionally taxing, as can reconciling situations where one partner goes outside those boundaries.[86][83][85]&#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: sw. veet (francesco)</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8017#comment-88783</link>
		<dc:creator>sw. veet (francesco)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2019 15:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another couple of aspects, Satyadeva, perhaps to be taken into consideration:

One is that in the context of sannyasins we tend to take for granted the sense of tolerance (not judgment) of our interlocutor, we tend to challenge the boundaries by neglecting the importance, before doing so, of helping to create trust in the relationship, for example by talking about oneself, making one&#039;s point of view comprehensible.

Another reason for conflict could be related to the difficulty in underestimating the importance of the setting in a therapy session, imagining that we should use all opportunities, even in real life, to challenge our and others&#039; limits, as if we were in an Osho group, which on average we have all done; the result being we invite and procure invasions but with the complication that the absence of a leader will not evolve them into greater understanding and trust, as is normal in groups.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another couple of aspects, Satyadeva, perhaps to be taken into consideration:</p>
<p>One is that in the context of sannyasins we tend to take for granted the sense of tolerance (not judgment) of our interlocutor, we tend to challenge the boundaries by neglecting the importance, before doing so, of helping to create trust in the relationship, for example by talking about oneself, making one&#8217;s point of view comprehensible.</p>
<p>Another reason for conflict could be related to the difficulty in underestimating the importance of the setting in a therapy session, imagining that we should use all opportunities, even in real life, to challenge our and others&#8217; limits, as if we were in an Osho group, which on average we have all done; the result being we invite and procure invasions but with the complication that the absence of a leader will not evolve them into greater understanding and trust, as is normal in groups.</p>
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		<title>By: sw. veet (francesco)</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8017#comment-88782</link>
		<dc:creator>sw. veet (francesco)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2019 15:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[True, Satchit, as Arpana has already said, it is important to distinguish between licentiousness and freedom, which for me means to distinguish between the need to express yourself, respecting the boundaries established with the neighbour, or challenging them.

But not always the challenge has an egocentric reason, sometimes there can be wisdom/love in saying to someone: &quot;Hey, you, let yourself go!&quot;

Conflict situations are due when we do not know each other well enough, which often coincides with when we think we know each other very well, the roles between the &#039;senior&#039; and the &#039;junior&#039; not being defined, ultimately a disagreement about the criteria we were talking about before.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, Satchit, as Arpana has already said, it is important to distinguish between licentiousness and freedom, which for me means to distinguish between the need to express yourself, respecting the boundaries established with the neighbour, or challenging them.</p>
<p>But not always the challenge has an egocentric reason, sometimes there can be wisdom/love in saying to someone: &#8220;Hey, you, let yourself go!&#8221;</p>
<p>Conflict situations are due when we do not know each other well enough, which often coincides with when we think we know each other very well, the roles between the &#8216;senior&#8217; and the &#8216;junior&#8217; not being defined, ultimately a disagreement about the criteria we were talking about before.</p>
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		<title>By: satchit</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8017#comment-88781</link>
		<dc:creator>satchit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2019 15:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks. Good that you have recovered from your emotions of yesterday.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. Good that you have recovered from your emotions of yesterday.</p>
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		<title>By: sw. veet (francesco)</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8017#comment-88780</link>
		<dc:creator>sw. veet (francesco)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2019 15:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shantam, in my opinion it is not always true what you say, especially today that there is a trend in vogue, &#039;polyamory&#039;, with young people who at least on sex are less messed up than us over 50s.

Consider also that, strange but true, one can be faithful and adrenally addicted to the same substance and the same pusher for life.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyamory]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shantam, in my opinion it is not always true what you say, especially today that there is a trend in vogue, &#8216;polyamory&#8217;, with young people who at least on sex are less messed up than us over 50s.</p>
<p>Consider also that, strange but true, one can be faithful and adrenally addicted to the same substance and the same pusher for life.</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyamory" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyamory</a></p>
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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8017#comment-88779</link>
		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2019 13:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a really good book which will provide you with with lots of interesting ideas about feelings, Satchit:

&#039;The Feeling Function&#039;, by James Hillman.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a really good book which will provide you with with lots of interesting ideas about feelings, Satchit:</p>
<p>&#8216;The Feeling Function&#8217;, by James Hillman.</p>
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