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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2019 21:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Satchit, 
From the Intensive Journal, if you feel like doing some writing:

https://redondowriter.typepad.com/sacredordinary/2008/09/progoffs-intersections-roads-taken-and-not-taken-in-a-nutshell.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Satchit,<br />
From the Intensive Journal, if you feel like doing some writing:</p>
<p><a href="https://redondowriter.typepad.com/sacredordinary/2008/09/progoffs-intersections-roads-taken-and-not-taken-in-a-nutshell.html" rel="nofollow">https://redondowriter.typepad.com/sacredordinary/2008/09/progoffs-intersections-roads-taken-and-not-taken-in-a-nutshell.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7957#comment-87885</link>
		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2019 16:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shantam, I do not agree. I met several sannyasins today and would not describe any of them as being confused. I would go as far to as to say that they were all positive, humourous and really cool folk to hang out with. Maybe you have been meeting confused sannyasins where you are. I really do not know what brings you to such a general conclusion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shantam, I do not agree. I met several sannyasins today and would not describe any of them as being confused. I would go as far to as to say that they were all positive, humourous and really cool folk to hang out with. Maybe you have been meeting confused sannyasins where you are. I really do not know what brings you to such a general conclusion.</p>
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		<title>By: satchit</title>
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		<dc:creator>satchit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2019 15:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If most of the sannyasins are confused, then his famous words: &quot;I am here to confuse you!&quot; did work, didn&#039;t they?

Anyway, I admit, where would one be if this sannyas trip never happened is an interesting but also very speculative question.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If most of the sannyasins are confused, then his famous words: &#8220;I am here to confuse you!&#8221; did work, didn&#8217;t they?</p>
<p>Anyway, I admit, where would one be if this sannyas trip never happened is an interesting but also very speculative question.</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
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		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2019 14:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, Shantam, this is another of your well-worn, tricky strategies, citing the work of Osho and other &quot;gurus&quot;, the &quot;Indian way of seeing things&quot; and claiming &quot;insights about life&quot; in order to rationalise your own lack of intellectual integrity (aka a deficiency of hard evidence). 

It&#039;s very simple, old chap: If you claim &quot;most&quot; of any set of people are &quot;confused&quot; then you simply have to provide proof. Otherwise, it&#039;s nothing but sheer speculation, your word against anyone else&#039;s who chooses to disagree, with or without enough evidence. Driven by, I suspect in your case, wish fulfilment, ie imagining you&#039;re far from the only one feeling that way, which alleviates that lost, lonely feeling.

That would seem to be part of your confusion: confusing imagination and reality without bothering to check the facts. And imagining this produces &quot;some order and penetrating insights&quot; when all it does is provide you with more wishy-washy delusion with which to comfort yourself. (My advice: Stay away from the Brexit &#039;debate&#039;, it&#039;ll confuse you even more!).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Shantam, this is another of your well-worn, tricky strategies, citing the work of Osho and other &#8220;gurus&#8221;, the &#8220;Indian way of seeing things&#8221; and claiming &#8220;insights about life&#8221; in order to rationalise your own lack of intellectual integrity (aka a deficiency of hard evidence). </p>
<p>It&#8217;s very simple, old chap: If you claim &#8220;most&#8221; of any set of people are &#8220;confused&#8221; then you simply have to provide proof. Otherwise, it&#8217;s nothing but sheer speculation, your word against anyone else&#8217;s who chooses to disagree, with or without enough evidence. Driven by, I suspect in your case, wish fulfilment, ie imagining you&#8217;re far from the only one feeling that way, which alleviates that lost, lonely feeling.</p>
<p>That would seem to be part of your confusion: confusing imagination and reality without bothering to check the facts. And imagining this produces &#8220;some order and penetrating insights&#8221; when all it does is provide you with more wishy-washy delusion with which to comfort yourself. (My advice: Stay away from the Brexit &#8216;debate&#8217;, it&#8217;ll confuse you even more!).</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7957#comment-87881</link>
		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2019 14:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Habitual generalisations&quot;? Was not Osho prone to it? All the Indian gurus thrive on generalisations. Maybe it is part of Indian way of seeing things and trying to create some order and penetrating insights.  

Insights about life cannot be presented as academic papers of facts and figures.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Habitual generalisations&#8221;? Was not Osho prone to it? All the Indian gurus thrive on generalisations. Maybe it is part of Indian way of seeing things and trying to create some order and penetrating insights.  </p>
<p>Insights about life cannot be presented as academic papers of facts and figures.</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
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		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2019 14:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Satyadeva, being the editor create a new string about psychological health of sannyasins and emotional wounds. I will write with the figures and real life stories. 

Just for a rough survey, how many sannyasnews bloggers have stable relations? How many have created families?

MOD:
Shantam, as it&#039;s your idea, I suggest that you write an introduction to such a discussion, detailing the issues you want to be aired. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Satyadeva, being the editor create a new string about psychological health of sannyasins and emotional wounds. I will write with the figures and real life stories. </p>
<p>Just for a rough survey, how many sannyasnews bloggers have stable relations? How many have created families?</p>
<p>MOD:<br />
Shantam, as it&#8217;s your idea, I suggest that you write an introduction to such a discussion, detailing the issues you want to be aired. </p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
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		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2019 14:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another of your habitual generalisations, Shantam, confidently delivered as if you have evidence from more than about 0.00001% of the sannyasin population. 

However, what do you think &quot;most of the people calling themselves sannyasins are confused about&quot;? Haven&#039;t Osho&#039;s teachings, meditations, therapies, communal situations and, er, &#039;devices&#039;, plus his very presence (not to mention the ongoing process of life itself) been enough to clarify the key existential and psycho-spiritual issues for his people? And how about you - are you yourself one of this &#039;unhappy&#039; breed?! 

Come on, Shantam, open up and spill the beans: What exactly has gone wrong? (N.B: No answer highlighting the Pune ashram will be acceptable. Thank You).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another of your habitual generalisations, Shantam, confidently delivered as if you have evidence from more than about 0.00001% of the sannyasin population. </p>
<p>However, what do you think &#8220;most of the people calling themselves sannyasins are confused about&#8221;? Haven&#8217;t Osho&#8217;s teachings, meditations, therapies, communal situations and, er, &#8216;devices&#8217;, plus his very presence (not to mention the ongoing process of life itself) been enough to clarify the key existential and psycho-spiritual issues for his people? And how about you &#8211; are you yourself one of this &#8216;unhappy&#8217; breed?! </p>
<p>Come on, Shantam, open up and spill the beans: What exactly has gone wrong? (N.B: No answer highlighting the Pune ashram will be acceptable. Thank You).</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7957#comment-87876</link>
		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2019 13:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a good one!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good one!</p>
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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7957#comment-87875</link>
		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2019 13:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lokesh,
You do realise he&#039;s addressing you as if he&#039;s your equal?
Surely some mistake.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lokesh,<br />
You do realise he&#8217;s addressing you as if he&#8217;s your equal?<br />
Surely some mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7957#comment-87874</link>
		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2019 13:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lokesh, most of the people calling themselves sannyasins are confused. 
To deny this is a false bravado as lonely hearts start saying, &quot;We are alone, not lonely.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lokesh, most of the people calling themselves sannyasins are confused.<br />
To deny this is a false bravado as lonely hearts start saying, &#8220;We are alone, not lonely.&#8221;</p>
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