Osho Satsangs of Silent Communion

On the  1st May, 1981,  “Osho Satsangs”, heart to heart silent communion with Osho begins

They last until Osho goes to America

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 At the beginning and end the gachchhamis are chanted; there is a period of silent meditation; the satsang ends with music singing and dancing; Osho makes a namaste on arriving and leaving.

On the gachchhamis, Osho says somewhere:

“In the tradition of Buddha there are three famous shelters: Buddham sharanam gachchhami: I go to the feet of the buddha, I surrender myself to the buddha. Sangham sharanam gachchhami: I go to the feet of the commune, I surrender myself to the buddhafield. Dhammam sharanam gachchhami: I surrender myself to the ultimate law which is personified by the buddha and is searched for by the commune, which has become actual in the buddha and is an inquiry in the commune. These three are the most important things for a seeker: the master, the commune, and the dhamma, Tao, logos, the ultimate law.

Unless you are in contact with one who has already realized, it is almost impossible for you to grow. The hindrances are millions, the pitfalls many, the false doors many, the temptations are many; there is every possibility of going astray. Unless you are in the company of someone who knows the way, who has travelled the way, who has arrived, it is almost impossible for you to reach. Unless your hands are in the hands of someone whom you can trust and to whom you can surrender, you are bound to go astray. The mind creates so many temptations — so alluring they are, so magnetic is their power —that unless you are in the power-field of someone whose magnetism is far more powerful than any other kind of temptation, it is impossible to reach. That is the meaning of disciplehood.
Buddham sharanam gachchhami: I surrender to the master.

The master is such a magnetic force that your surrender to the master becomes your protection; hence it is called the shelter. Then you are secure, then you are guarded, then you are protected. Then your hand is in those hands which know where to take you, what direction to give to you.

The second thing is the commune. Each buddha creates a commune, because without a commune a buddha cannot function. A commune means his energy field, a commune means the people who have become joined with him, a commune means an alternate society to the ordinary mundane society which goes after spurious comforts — it is there available to everybody.

A small oasis in the desert of the world is what is meant by a commune created by a buddha—a small oasis in which life is lived with a totally different gestalt, with a totally different vision, with a totally different goal; where life is lived with purpose, meaning, where life is lived with method—even though to the outsiders it may look like madness, but that madness has a method in it —where life is lived prayerfully, alert, aware, awake; where life is not just accidental, where life starts becoming more and more a growth in a certain direction, towards a certain destination; where life is no more like driftwood.

And the third is the dhamma. Dhamma means truth. Buddha represents the dhamma in two ways: one, through his communication, verbal, and second, through his presence, through his silence, through his communion: nonverbal. The verbal communication is only an introduction for the nonverbal. The nonverbal is an energy communication. The verbal is only preparatory; it simply prepares you so you can allow the master to communicate with you energywise, because energywise it is really moving into the unknown. Energywise it needs great trust, because you will be completely unaware where you are going—aware that you are going somewhere, aware that you are being led somewhere, aware that something is happening of tremendous import; but what exactly it is you don’t yet have the language for, you don’t have any experience to recognize. You will be moving into the uncharted.
The buddha represents dhamma, truth, in two ways. Verbally he communicates with the students; non-verbally, through silence, through energy, he communicates with the disciples. And then there comes the ultimate unity where neither communication nor communion is needed, but oneness has been achieved — where the master and the disciple become one, when the disciple is just a shadow, when there is no separation. These are the three stages of growth: student, disciple, devotee. ”

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81 Responses to Osho Satsangs of Silent Communion

  1. shantam prem says:

    Nice Coincidence
    I was thinking to create a string on the experimenet with three Gachchhamis; the forgotten Sutras, the very essence of religions and religious evolution.

    • Lokesh says:

      Shantam, I would really enjoy to read your thoughts on the very essence of religions and religious evolution.

      I’m sure it would be the perfect material to make everyone laugh. Dear Mister Fantasy…
      I’m sorry, Shantam, being unfamiliar with Western pop culture you won’t understand the reference to Mister Fantasy. That’s for the unenlightened baboons who don’t understand anything about religious evolution.

      • shantam prem says:

        Thanks, Lokesh, for required push.

        Because it is not going to be string, so it is easier to write importance of three Buddhist chants as free-flowing thoughts. Basically they are not chants but Sutras, the psychological formulas.

        I will write from first person perspective, from experiencer´s point of view.

        • Lokesh says:

          I await the outcome of your prodigious writing task with bated breath.

          • shantam prem says:

            Lokesh, I am not that good a writer who writes one prodigious book about their spiritual journey. Combined worth of all my essays is not prodigious though they are honest as much as one can be.

            My essay aside, I am curious what others say about the contents of this Osho talk!

  2. kusum says:

    “student, disciple, devotee…” In other words, Seed, Bud, Flower….

  3. Kavita says:

    Since I have not been part of any gachchhamis, I can’t say much. I do enjoy watching the videos of the recording sometimes.

    I somehow think /feel Existence provides the required ground for any kind of growth if it’s needed.

    Methinks the theme of this thread is basically ‘surrender’; now, to me, if at all, any surrender I know of is to myself.

    • swamishanti says:

      Kavita, who or what is Existence, and how does it decide what kind of situations/required grounds are needed for us and any kinds of growth?

      • Kavita says:

        SS, Existence to me is not a person (who), it is all that is. Actually, in Hindi I have heard Osho say ‘Astitva’, which I can relate to more than the English word. It includes all, the situation, circumstances, people, place, institution, climate, milieu etc.

        About how it’s decided, that is probably not in anyone’s hand but is ‘existential’, for example, when I came to Osho in the early 90s there was no gachchhami, so I take it as there was no need for the ritual of gachchhami, I take it as that growth has happened/not needed.

        • swamishanti says:

          Thanks, Kavita.
          And now I have learned this new word, ‘Asstitva’, for ‘this everything’.
          Is it similar to ‘Aum’?: https://youtu.be/N_naTGY-Jcw
          I sure would like to read more of Osho`s lectures in his mother tongue.

          • Kavita says:

            I am no authority for others, I speak/write my own experience but it does not mean it will apply to all.

            No, SS, ‘Aum’ is not the same in this context, according to me. Maybe you can search for Astitva (pronounced us-titva), Osho uses this frequently in his Hindi lectures.

            • swamishanti says:

              I searched for ‘Astitva’ and came up with this:

              Astitva (2000) – IMDbm.imdb.com title
              Rating: 7.3/10 – ‎469 votes Drama
              “Astitva is a bold film with adultery. An ambitious male chauvinist and his loving wife are happily married but the guy is not able to give time to the family….”

              Looks like there may be some ass & tits in that one!

              • Kavita says:

                SS, by “search” I meant in the Osho context, not your web search engine.

                • swamishanti says:

                  Osho didn`t believe in God but he believed in the ancient Indian concept of ‘Astitva’ –
                  he bowed down to Astitva.

                  But if Astitva or Existence is constantly changing, and evolving, and contains the situations, the circumstances, all the people, etc. does it not have to have some kind of ‘mind’ to give direction or purpose in human lives?

                  Otherwise, how would ‘It’ be able to decide how to set up situations or circumstances where we evolve or grow?

                  Osho said, right before he left the body, “Let me go. Existence decides its timing.” So how could Existence decide its timing or anything other kind of timing, including the creation and/or end of any universes?

                  Has It decided to create this universe , or this earth as a kind of ‘growth ground’, for beings to grow and rediscover some hidden secrets, or is this earth actually one kind of experiment, perhaps?

                • Kavita says:

                  Maybe there is only one answer to all your above question – the ultimate unsolvable mystery which no one is able solve till now.

                • swamishanti says:

                  “Are we unique, are we something utterly special in the universe, or are we…an example of many, many civilisations that have emerged, many, many different life-forms?”

                  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BQT08NFsf4w

            • shantam prem says:

              Faceless Frank, thanks for sharing a song which is basically a subconscious wish of all the Indians in spiritual line.

              As in every endeavour, not every black can be Obama or Oprah, not every Indian some Amma or Rajneesh!

  4. Levina says:

    Wow, thank you, what a gift! First time I see his teeth showing, makes him look more endearing!

    • Parmartha says:

      Yes, I too liked that video.
      The pics where one can see Osho’s teeth of course predated the work that Devageet did on his teeth, it looks like there was at least one tooth was out of sorts by way of colour at that time!

  5. Parmartha says:

    I myself liked the silent communions at that time. I experienced them as meaningful, and beyond words. The value of it has remained with me to the present time.

    The ‘format’, well, it owed a lot to Buddhism, and must admit the gachchamis themselves I found a bit suspect.

    I remember when I was a full member at the Medina English commune later, that their use “grew”, and someone made a decision that we should gauchami the commune cars we drove, or were driven in, before each journey!
    I was glad to see an end of that after Sheela left the commune!

    I saw myself as a disciple of Osho, and still do.
    As for the ‘devotees’ – well, in the normal sense of the word I found them a bit of a pain. For example, when a devotee “left” the commune, or “left” Osho they often behaved badly, and just filled their mouths with anti-Osho garbage…too thick making for too thin!

  6. Lokesh says:

    In Poona 1, when the gachchhamis were introduced, it created a vibe of being jacked into an ancient current. In retrospect I reckon it was a great theatrical stunt that produced an unforgettable experience. I think many, myself included, really felt like we were the sangha, gathered round the Buddha to once again bring light into a dark world.

    Now I’m not sure how much was reality and how much was fantasy. A bit of both, I suspect. What I know for sure is that it was a great happening to participate in. It’s history now.

    • madhu dagmar frantzen says:

      What is ´history´now, Lokesh, is the thorough misunderstanding of a transpersonal Truth (and the consequences that such can have…) put in the Beauty of the form of a prayer ( Gachchamis), in this case of this Sangha happening.

      What didn´t disappear (yet) is such kind of personalized misunderstandings; otherwise sceptical up to cynical comments would have disappeared as well, as one does not go without the other.

      Madhu

      • Lokesh says:

        Madhu, your question and the idea that I’ve declared something that you misinterpret as a thorough misunderstanding of a transpersonal Truth sounds like the products of an overactive imagination.

        My saying something is history now means the events described happened decades ago and have been been well covered in books, articles etc. Nothing more, nothing less. Well, at least as far as I am concerned anyway.

        • madhu dagmar frantzen says:

          Lokesh, I didn´t have a question; just shared some of my experience in the sangha processing.

          The ´Taking Refuge Mantra´, as Satchit defines the ´Gachchamis´, rightly re my understanding, one of the most beautiful prayers, acknowledging (if we are verbalising such, or not) that we all need a kind of frame to tame the mind, a frame in consciousness how to come together in peace as fragmented souls.

          The suggestions to bow down to something ´Greater´and ´Unknowable´ (by our minds), to bow down to our fellow-travellers in this mysterious journey on this pilgrimage of Life, and to bow down to what we call ´Truth´ then is a most beautiful frame.

          Even nowadays.

          Madhu

    • satchit says:

      Lokesh declares:

      “What I know for sure is that it was a great happening to participate in. It’s history now.”

      History is the situation, but not the refuge mantra.
      The gachchamis are like a song and a song cannot be history.
      Altamont can be history but not ‘Gimme Shelter’.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbmS3tQJ7Os

  7. shantam prem says:

    Parmartha talks about Medina, Lokesh talks about Poona 1, Kavita has written about “surrender to myself” – I wonder where lies the relevance for today of this Osho´s talk piece about Buddha and his Sangha and his Dharma?

    To be true, facts prove something like Shri Rajneesh Jain, known as Osho, has a job to be an Acharya; a extraordinary, talented lecturer on religious scriptures, more than that was his wishful thinking.

    As I know from my master´s work, He has used Buddha as a generic term. A spiritually awakened person, it does not matter from which religious background he comes from, is a Buddha.

    In traditional Indian terminology, word guru (sadguru) is used for those Buddhas who go into not just preaching as a teacher but create emotional bonding with the students. Once this bonding is established, preacher becomes master, student becomes teacher. It is like once ring is exchanged, man becomes husband, woman becomes wife. Laws work accordingly.

    As husband and wife becomes base for the family, the habitat they share becomes home, guru and his disciples become base for the Sangha; call it ashram or commune, but calling it resort is like sending the Pretty Woman who became wife back to the streets.

    As far as history of repeating Gachchami Mantra is concerned, it was a part of Rajneeshism (Rajneesh Dharma). That short-lived religion, it seems was created to befool immigration authorities so that living Jesus gets permanent residence in USA on ground of religious freedom.

    Alas, the ego tussle between living Jesus and his first high priestess blew the lid away.
    One must not forget, Osho died among his Sangha, beautiful global commune, a magnetic pool place in the city called Pune. Pune means The Holy, the pure. Osho brought the meaning back into the city.

    • swamishanti says:

      In 1981 in Poona 1 there were those satsangs which were full of young orange folk. Of course, as Osho said, he could see lots of doubting Thomases.

      But in Poona 2, at the end of the discourses, Osho introduced a new meditation for his people, which included different stages of saying whatever you wanted to say, ie ‘Gibberish’, followed by laughing for ten minutes, then a drum beat from Nivedano…and witnessing and sitting silently. And then he added a ‘let go’ stage where everyone lay down in Buddha Hall.

      There were lots of Germans and Japanese in Poona 2 and, as Osho left the hall with his dance he introduced a ‘mantra salute’ – he was like the Commune Fuhrer – and the music built up to a crescendo and when Osho signalled everyone would raise their arms together and shout “Yahooo!!!!”

    • satchit says:

      “I wonder where lies the relevance for today of this Osho´s talk piece about Buddha and his Sangha and his Dharma?”

      Where lies the relevance, Shantam?

      Simply in the doing. You have to sing the gachhchamis and bow down to each.

      Did you not say that you meditate in old churches? They have good acoustics. And if the priest does not come and disturbs you, you can at least watch your thoughts that disturb you, enjoying it.

      • shantam prem says:

        Satchit,
        Thoughts don´t disturb at all in the churches.
        There is also no need do any Gachchami mantras because churches are the real life manifestations of Sangham Sharnam.
        You sit there and feel the last line. Anyone can try. Getting reconnected with one´s heritage in a new way is a way back home.

        • satyadeva says:

          I suggest you might look and see whether thoughts don’t bother you in churches because you get lost in sentimental dreams, Shantam.

          I find it very hard to understand how someone who’s spent many years at the Pune ashram and who devotes vast swathes of his time and energy professing to be a fighter for something like ‘the purity of Osho’s work against the forces of degeneration’ can fail to grasp that the Christian Church is itself essentially degenerate, “a lie”, as your master declared, eg in ‘The Mustard Seed’ discourses (1974).

          • shantam prem says:

            Is it Zen or Sufi story where Master asks, “How were the people in the previous village?”
            When the person says, “Very bad”, at that master replies, “Here too they are not better. Very bad people live here too.”

            I hope Satyadeva can understand what I am pointing towards. In this story lies the destruction of Osho’s Commune too.

            • satyadeva says:

              True to form, Shantam, you avoid the point I made and impose your agenda instead.

              However, anyone who insists upon imagining the Christian Church is a valuable institution is hardly likely to be worth listening to when he pontificates about how Sannyas should be organised.

              • shantam prem says:

                During the night I slept with one feeling, “I doubt the intentions of those people and also despise them who use Jesus, Mohammad, Osho to prove their point, with such kind of knowledgeable assertions, “Is it not what Jesus says? How you can say something which is not written in Koran etc. etc?”

                Because Satyadeva is one disciple who left Osho for other green pastures, I may remind him Osho is one master who has encouraged disciples to follow their leads.

                Satyadeva, you have some kind of intellectual connection with Osho, this is my clear observation. Maybe you can tell in which basket you have put your eggs?

                • frank says:

                  SD, trying to have a coherent discussion with Shantam about religion etc? By comparison, a talk with a Jehovah`s Witness who is having a wank would seem like a chat with Albert Einstein about relativity!
                  Forget it.
                  The guy is completely addled.

                  Singing the praises of the Church, churches, wants his funeral with his 400 year old underpants on, swingers clubs, Japanese Zen porn and his bizarre fantasies of being some kind of inner circle player at the Resort because he once shagged a couple of birds including sloppy seconds from a convicted rapist there.

                  The guy needs professional help. Medication time!

                • sam lucas says:

                  Frank, Jehovah’s Witnesses are completely opposed to masturbation. It is an insult to us that you suggest that we “wank”.

                  For help to stop masturbation, or wanking:
                  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102011151

                • Lokesh says:

                  Sam has hit the nail on the head. For all you wankers out there, please read the following to understand there is hope for you.

                  “I began masturbating when I was eight years old. Later I learned God’s view of the matter. I felt terrible every time I gave in. “How could God love someone like me?”, I asked myself.” (Luiz).

                • shantam prem says:

                  Force your mind to focus on other matters. An ex-Christian named “Lokesh” advises:
                  “Before going to bed, read something related to spiritual things. It is very important that the last thought of the day be a spiritual one.” (Philippians 4:8).

                • satyadeva says:

                  Shantam, if you seriously don’t accept that Osho despised the Christian Church then you might as well drop sannyas now!

                  But of course, the fact is that to accept the truth makes you look like a deluded dreamer, if not downright stupid. And you don’t want to think that about yourself, let alone have others do likewise, do you? Hence the bullshine, sacrificing the truth for saving your face.

                • satchit says:

                  SD writes:
                  “Shantam, if you seriously don’t accept that Osho despised the Christian Church then you might as well drop sannyas now!”

                  Why should Shantam not meditate in a Christian church? I like the idea, it is enough empty space there.

                  Feels more it is you who is not at ease with your upbringing, your
                  conditioning, Satyadeva.

                  Or are you free to meditate in church?

                • satyadeva says:

                  Satchit, I suggest you look at Shantam’s words a little more deeply:

                  “…churches are the real life manifestations of Sangham Sharnam.
                  You sit there and feel the last line. Anyone can try. Getting reconnected with one´s heritage in a new way is a way back home.”

                  I suggest this isn’t ‘meditation’ at all, but that he’s simply imagining what he longs for, a ‘spiritual community’ (a ‘sangha’) – moreover, a spiritual community which has little, if any, relevance to Sannyas, his avowed path.

                  Do you really believe that he, or anyone else, finds his “way back home” by contemplating entrenched ‘tradition’, imagining all the people over the centuries who’ve turned to orthodox religions, the purveyors of untruth and mere consolation?

                • satyadeva says:

                  Btw, Satchit, I don’t frequent churches although I appreciate they can be places of ‘refuge’ because they’re very quiet and usually empty of people.

                • shantam prem says:

                  Satchit,
                  Thanks for showing your intelligence and civil courage.

                • satchit says:

                  “I suggest this isn’t ‘meditation’ at all, but that he’s simply imagining what he longs for, a ‘spiritual community’ (a ‘sangha’) – moreover, a spiritual community which has little, if any, relevance to Sannyas, his avowed path.

                  Do you really believe that he, or anyone else, finds his “way back home” by contemplating entrenched ‘tradition’, imagining all the people over the centuries who’ve turned to orthodox religions, the purveyors of untruth and mere consolation?”

                  As far as I have understood he meditates
                  alone in the churches.
                  So where shall there be a community?

                  And he has no Christian conditioning.

                  So it is the same for him
                  if he meditates in the church or in the forest.
                  Church is maybe better protection against weather.

                • satyadeva says:

                  I’m surprised, Satchit, but you miss the point. I suggest you re-read both my post and Shantam’s original one.

                  Of course, Shantam is alone in these churches and has no Christian conditioning. The point is that he is clearly longing for what he imagines such churches signify, a secure, ongoing, ‘spiritual community’, a Sangha’.

                  Moreover, such contemplations, based in imagination (not to mention leaving out the appalling history of the Christian Church, including the symbiotic relationship of Church and State – either deliberately or through lack of knowledge) have nothing to do with meditation, but, as I said, a lot to do with sentimental daydreaming.

                • satyadeva says:

                  Actually, here Shantam rather well demonstrates the sort of mentality that wants to create a ‘tradition’ out of a master’s life and work, a ‘religion’ and the institutions created for that purpose – which, without fail, have always ended up screwing it all up.

                • satchit says:

                  “Of course, Shantam is alone in these churches and has no Christian conditioning. The point is that he is clearly longing for what he imagines such churches signify, a secure, ongoing, ‘spiritual community’, a Sangha’.”

                  And what? It is his freedom to long for what he wants.

                  Do you want to forbid him longing or do you want to tell him that you are the ‘better sannyasin’ or maybe even that you have reached the goal because you have stopped longing?

                • satyadeva says:

                  None of those three, Satchit.

                  As you insist on missing the point I’ll repeat some of what I wrote before:

                  Shantam:
                  “…churches are the real life manifestations of Sangham Sharnam. You sit there and feel the last line. Anyone can try. Getting reconnected with one´s heritage in a new way is a way back home.”

                  SD:
                  “I suggest this isn’t ‘meditation’ at all, but that he’s simply imagining what he longs for, a ‘spiritual community’ (a ‘sangha’) – moreover, a spiritual community which has little, if any, relevance to Sannyas, his avowed path.

                  Do you really believe that he, or anyone else, finds his “way back home” by contemplating entrenched ‘tradition’, imagining all the people over the centuries who’ve turned to orthodox religions, the purveyors of untruth and mere consolation?”

                • Lokesh says:

                  Satchit, your new name will be Swami Satcheat, it means that you must learn to cheat your mind into believing that it understands everything when in reality it understands nothing.

                • satchit says:

                  SD says:
                  “Do you really believe that he, or anyone else, finds his “way back home” by contemplating entrenched ‘tradition’, imagining all the people over the centuries who’ve turned to orthodox religions, the purveyors of untruth and mere consolation?””

                  I don’t believe anything. Seems you are the only believer here, who believes that this is not possible.

                  Why should I believe in a “way back home”?
                  I’m already home.

                  Btw, does Satyadeva mean ‘owner of truth’?

                • satyadeva says:

                  No need to split hairs, Satchit. But perhaps you’re not a native English speaker and don’t realise that quite often ‘believe’, ‘think’ and ‘assume’ can be interchangeable. Just use some common sense and substitute ‘think’ or ‘assume’ for “believe” and your argument collapses.

                  Try addressing the points I’ve made instead of introducing bogus non-issues, otherwise your claims of being “home” will look rather presumptuous, to say the least.

                • shantam prem says:

                  Lokesh is very clever. He never takes Satyadeva on radar and vice versa. On the contrary they cover each other like political allies.

                  May I request these gentlemen, specially Lokesh, to contemplate over my observation?

                • satyadeva says:

                  And you, Shantam, are an issue-avoider par excellence, eg this foolishly irrelevant comment of yours, purely to deflect attention away from the discussion.

                • satchit says:

                  “Try addressing the points I’ve made instead of introducing bogus non-issues, otherwise your claims of being “home” will look rather presumptuous, to say the least.”

                  Satyadeva, I’m not interested in your argue-games and in your ‘putting-in-the-corner’-games. You have done it already with Shantam, with me it does not function.

                  You seem to think you own the truth. This is not the case. Sat is more
                  than your mediocre mind.

                • satyadeva says:

                  Satchit, it seems what “does not function” with you is when you’re unable to address the issues in question. Playing the ‘above-it-all’ game and projecting that on to me (or anyone else) is behaving like a more pretentious version of Shantam himself!

                  You say, “You seem to think you own the truth” – I say you seem to think you already ARE the truth…

                  Who do you think you’re kidding?! Not me, that’s for sure.

                • satchit says:

                  SD says:
                  “You say, “You seem to think you own the truth” – I say you seem to think you already ARE the truth…”

                  Yes, we can have our thoughts about the other.

                  Shantam:
                  “…churches are the real life manifestations of Sangham Sharnam. You sit there and feel the last line. Anyone can try. Getting reconnected with one´s heritage in a new way is a way back home.”

                  I’m not here to defend his words. Maybe he is kidding you.

                • satyadeva says:

                  “I’m not here to defend his words. Maybe he is kidding you.”

                  An unconvincing attempt at a face-saver, Satchit, evasively dishonest (and not for the first time).

                • satchit says:

                  “An unconvincing attempt at a face-saver, Satchit, evasively dishonest (and not for the first time).”

                  Looks you need a bit insight, Satyadeva. Your game functions like this (also not for the first time):

                  Shantam writes weird stuff, and then you come running like a mother to a child and give him attention. We all know the ego needs attention, don’t we?

                  You are very predictable and reliable in this. Interesting symbiosis you both have.

                • satyadeva says:

                  Well, at least you now acknowledge Shantam “writes weird stuff”. So some progress, at least, Satchit. Still some way to go though…Perhaps you’re someone who enjoys reading – and writing – utter rubbish day after day?

                • frank says:

                  Itchy and Scratchit in ‘It`s just your ego’.

                • shantam prem says:

                  Satchit, you have to copy/paste few of my sentences which you think are weird.

                  Also, in comparison, few sentences of others which shine genius.

                • satyadeva says:

                  Latest odds from Ladbrokes:
                  First request: 1,000/1 he won’t bother.
                  Second request: 1/10,000 he’ll quote himself….

                • satchit says:

                  “Perhaps you’re someone who enjoys reading – and writing – utter rubbish day after day?”

                  I don’t know how old you are SD – 80?

                  Life is full of rubbish. Do you think you can avoid rubbish by controlling it?

                • satyadeva says:

                  What a strange comment on an open discussion forum – thoroughly inappropriate and therefore itself a good example of utter rubbish!

                  What sort of diseased state would we be in if rubbish collection and disposal services didn’t exist? Now there’s an analogy for you to meditate on, Satchit….

                • anand yogi says:

                  Again the perverted and ignorant baboons show their ignorance! Shantambhai, rest assured, when it comes to genius your mighty contributions here on SN are as saturated with it as your 400 year-old chuddies on Japanese Zen porn night at your local swingers club!

                  Your genius has continuously shone out like a golden shower in the cess-pit of western ignorance that is Sannyasnews! Who could forget the immortal ejaculations that have burst forth from your vital organs!

                  “In the matter of words,it does not matter if the underpants are outside the trousers.”
                  Has there ever been such a succinct summary of the wisdom of Taoism and the Upanishads? No, never!
                  Such clear communications are to be expected from one who hails from land where there are more mobile phones than toilets!

                  “Every invention in the West has been based on a verse from the Bible.”
                  Such extraordinary insight that even Swami Bhorat, after decades of simultaneously banging his head against holy marble, has never been able to reach, despite reducing function of grey cells to less than zero %!

                  In fact, as Zorba-the-Buddha Modi has pointed out, in East all these ideas were created first by ancient sages and rishis of India! Along with plastic surgery, space travel, stem cell genetics and public toilets, the ancient rishis invented swingers clubs and wankathons, in Khajuraho!

                  The idea that you are “weird” is something that could only arise from the utter ignorance of one who utterly fails to understand the wisdom of mighty Bhorat!

                  Hanging out in swingers clubs and empty churches, on the dole and having visions of ashram as knocking-shop-cum-golden-temple is perfectly normal for one who hails from browned and hallowed turf of mighty Bhorat!

                  Yahoo!
                  Hari Om!

            • Lokesh says:

              Shantam, I know for sure if I met SD I could enjoy a good conversation. Satcheat, on the other hand, I see as a circus act wherein he blows bubbles out his asshole. Amusing to a certain extent but one soon tires of such theatrics because anyone can do such things. That is, if they are stupid enough to swallow a bottle of washing-up liquid.

              Of course, you, Shantam, can blow bubbles out the end of your lingam and all you need to do to perform this apparent miracle is eat communion wavers. Amen.

    • Lokesh says:

      Shantam, one difference that exists between us is that you are much more of a victim to imagination than I am. One strong indication of this is that you have a tendency to speak about certain subjects as if you understand them when you don’t actually know what you’re talking about.

    • satyadeva says:

      “In traditional Indian terminology, word guru (sadguru) is used for those Buddhas who go into not just preaching as a teacher but create emotional bonding with the students. Once this bonding is established, preacher becomes master, student becomes teacher.”

      Shantam, does a a master need “emotional bonding with the students” to qualify as a master? Isn’t it about first having the master consciousness, seeing through life and death and love and everything, and, crucially, having the capacity to inform and nurture others towards the same?

      As in everything in life, it seems, from what I’ve heard, that ‘the ripeness is all’, and even ‘full enlightenment’ doesn’t instantly turn someone into a teacher even, let alone a master, as it has to be lived, integrated, perhaps for many years.

  8. Kavita says:

    “Parmartha talks about Medina, Lokesh talks about Poona 1, Kavita has written about “surrender to myself” – I wonder where lies the relevance for today of this Osho´s talk piece about Buddha and his Sangha and his Dharma?”

    The relevance today, I guess if one has the eyes to see it one can see it!

    Probably ones who can’t see it need to eat those dangling carrots!

  9. shantam prem says:

    “The relevance today, I guess if one has the eyes to see it one can see it!

    Probably ones who can’t see it need to eat those dangling carrots!”

    One can notice quite often spiritual bitchiness in certain kind of women!

  10. Kavita says:

    “One can notice quite often spiritual bitchiness in certain kind of women!”
    One can notice not quite often spiritual tenderness in certain kind of men!

  11. shantam prem says:

    Just seen this quotation. Feels like the very essence of liberal master´s teachings:

    No-Thought for the Day ®
    Just do whatsoever is pleasant — pleasant to you and pleasant to your surroundings. Just do something which brings a song to you and creates a rhythm around you of celebration. This life I call a religious life. It has no principles, it has no discipline, it has no laws. It has only one, single approach — and that is, live intelligently.

    PS: Naturally, conditions apply.

  12. samarpan says:

    “This life I call a religious life. It has no principles, it has no discipline, it has no laws.” (No-Thought for the Day ® via Shantam).

    Shantam, this reminds me of Osho’s Eighth Commandment: “Do not swim — float.”

  13. shantam prem says:

    whether it was silent communion or unending talks, main theme was master and his disciples.
    30 years later jury is still out, whether disciples disperse and go their own way after master´s death or they keep and preserve the atmosphere and disciple to disciples interactions.
    I think still we learn in the basic schools, “Man is a social animal.”
    Human beings have inbuilt desire to relate with other like minded human beings. It is like drop wants to become part of the bigger self.
    Those drops simply dry under the sunlight, who have this spiritual ego to merge with the ocean straight.

  14. swamishanti says:

    This guy sings the ‘refuge mantra’ beautifully. Not sure if he’s an Osho sannyasin:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JvYK-Ej9YO4

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