Comments on: Chetna Reflects on an Ice based Training

By: chetna

chetna — Mon, 08 Jan 2018 19:31:02 +0000

http://theageofhappiness.com/posts/ledyanoy-chelovek-vim-hof/8ef0826a8h7

Have a look at this documentary. Pretty cool guy.

By: frank

frank — Sat, 06 Jan 2018 21:47:31 +0000

Everyone wants to be a hero…
Just for one day at least…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J06yQb4lbPk

By: Prem

Prem — Sat, 06 Jan 2018 19:54:28 +0000

I don’t know. When you are trying to convince others of something, it means deep down you did not enjoy it. It’s a compensation mechanism.

I try to watch myself doing this. When I try to convince someone how great I feel about something – deep down my body is saying I’m not enjoying it.

When you try to rationalize (by making a 6 point list) how great it was – you are trying to compensate.

From my experience with cold exposure, it is BOTH a healing and a traumatic experience.

The shock completely disconnects you from your feelings, so it gives you a false sense of detachment and happiness – because you are disconnected from feelings.

Cold exposure does boost the immune system…

And it is also traumatizing…this is why you disconnect from your feelings, to avoid the trauma. The body goes into shock. Meditate on this also.

But it does kickstart the immune system, therefore healing some diseases.

I would like to have some feedback from Chetna – two months after the experience. Did the joint aches return?

Usually when people try to convince other people that “I had such a great time doing this and I learned so much” it means deep down they did not enjoy it on some level and they are trying to compensate.

By: shantam prem

shantam prem — Tue, 02 Jan 2018 14:05:49 +0000

At social media, we write collective facts and truths.

By: dominic

dominic — Tue, 02 Jan 2018 12:58:05 +0000

Have you been cheating again, Shantam, so soon into the new year?!

I also resolve to continue to misbehave this year, for as Osho once said of the Buddha, “To be good is to be boring!”

By: kusum

kusum — Tue, 02 Jan 2018 10:30:42 +0000

Survival instincts certainly wake one up!

By: dominic

dominic — Tue, 02 Jan 2018 09:58:09 +0000

“blather about altered states, etc.”
What a frosty and chilly review, P! So briskly freezing Hof out and giving altered states the cold shoulder!

Poor nephew, he oughta listened to his mum: “You’ll catch your death (of cold)” or his uncle, “e=mc2″, where e(entropy)= m(mass) x c(cold)2(squared).

By: shantam prem

shantam prem — Tue, 02 Jan 2018 08:29:41 +0000

Beauty of sannyas mind is, “Everything becomes meditation.” Eating, drinking, sleeping, cheating…whatsoever.

By: Parmartha

Parmartha — Mon, 01 Jan 2018 17:05:54 +0000

I agree, Frank.
I used to do early morning cold water swimming for over a decade in the Hampstead Ponds in the late eighties and nineties (not winter!) and simply enjoyed it, and thought it kept me halfway healthy, and a little in trim.

Don’t see why it can’t just be described as “enjoyable”, without some blather about altered states, etc.

Sadly, one day I walked in only to see someone who had become more than a talking acquaintance of mine (Einstein’s nephew) laid out, and quite dead! He swam every day also, and then suddenly the cold must have got to him.

By: frank

frank — Sun, 31 Dec 2017 15:52:29 +0000

Chetna claims that staying in icy cold water “shrinks your ego”.
I go sea swimming here in the UK in the summer. It’s not cold enough to shrink my ego, but it does (scientifically provable) shrink some other parts of my anatomy! It`s a pure joy doing something enjoyable, a little challenging and maybe a little dangerous.

However, all this spiritual add-ons/super power/healing all diseases/miracles stuff makes me feel a bit uncomfortable.

By this logic, athletes would be super-conscious, guys in the SAS would be blipping in and out of no-mind like zen masters, Wayne Rooney would be having satoris as he bangs in another goal and so on.

What happened to doing things for fun?