I have not disputed the things that you assign to Osho, I have no evidence for that. You are the one who fanatically defends these charges without proof; in fact I have not asked you to show them.

I only said that Osho is not a politician who must defend a political correctness, and then in his private life does what he fucking wants.

What changes in your life, and what do you expect that should change in mine, if he was a health-conscious guy or a transgressive Zorba?

It would not be obvious, eventually, if he had done the opposite of Lokesh, making trips after enlightenment?

And, in any case, tell me where he spoke for or against things that you claim show that Osho is not a Master, according to his own standards?

Fanaticism could be to assign and defend moral standars, about themselves or others, moralistic in this case.

Mind you, I do not make an apology for vice, an immoral fanaticism in opposition to yours; mine was a reductio to absurdity, by an amoral one.

If yours were not just an intellectual exercise you would have already declared what is for you a Master or a God, and I’m sure (if you are not an algorithm) you would have the same passion in doing it, sharing that, but at least in your last comments you didn’t, you would just like me to ignore these omissions and that I consider only the things you say about Osho, otherwise the fanatical one would be me (?!).

Very reasonable and not at all stupid…

I understand that you like to discuss, but do not confuse passion with fanaticism. Osho has better arguments than mine to laugh at what you say; if you google a while you’ll see it.

Do not you think that if you point the finger at the spiritual authenticity of someone who is loved spiritually by someone else, whom you’ve implicitly defined as an idiot, forgetting to say, in passing, something assertive about your spiritual path (I’d be happy if you had one), then you could be considered an alias of a subtle philosopher like him?
http://nonciclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Hitler_con_piccolo_Ratzinger.jpg

I am happy that my reframe, due to the few things that you share about yourself, your heart, even if well compensated by thoughts, may seem silly to you – it would be silly to expect the opposite; in you could be much more and profound (I hope), but MY_MASTER_WITHOUT_QUOTATION_MARKS (note the modest tone, almost British) taught me to stay with what is there, and, since I am not a Master, I speak only of what I feel, relatively speaking…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU1HbwC71j4

Ciao,

VF

Ciao,

VF

Who knows if Osho would have lived longer? Perhaps some tough love and push back from people around him, instead of slavish worship, would have helped – “No, Mohan, no more Rollers, drugs and teeth pulling for you! We’re getting you a mountain bike, running shoes and a personal trainer, because that’s what love looks like.”
Perhaps if he’d have had a wife like Lokesh’s to balance his excesses and narcissism….

You have to consider the fact that your duck argument does not fit in the spiritual world. In the spiritual world a duck can be a tiger and a tiger can be a duck.
Ever heard of something Osho called “device”?