Comments on: Commune and Communism….

By: satchit

satchit — Fri, 03 Mar 2017 15:54:37 +0000

To be honest, I don’t know Madhu if any virtual place is the right place for vulnerability. Everbody has to decide for himself.

In the virtual world much fake – or if you want to see it positively, playfulness – is possible. I could be the neighbour of Lokesh on his island playing jokes on him. And there is not much possibility for him to find out the truth.

Yes, I have a sannyas life story, honestly.

By: madhu dagmar frantzen

madhu dagmar frantzen — Thu, 02 Mar 2017 21:20:55 +0000

Thanks, Satchit ,

your response to my question is very smooth-tongued and eloquent, and it also shows, that you seem to be able to protect your integrity in an open virtual source better than me I do.

However, we both may have a different understanding of ´sharing´also.

Quite recently you said :”what do we really know of each other…”

So I don´t know, if you or some others posting with indian sounding names have a
(Osho-)Sannyas life story too.

Especially here at this virtual SN UK
chat- spot, it sometimes (rarely) happens ,my heart beat accelerating with a stronger beat and beyond the mind .

I don´t second your presumption that in most of the personal interactions here, much sharing is happening.

As sharing means to me , to show vulnerabilty too – instead of showing up with reactions ( verbally) and sometimes really playing ´weired , up to very aggressive and ´out of (not only) the topic.

Then and there, I sigh and say ´aaah ´might be some karmic´, unresolved hurt and take (a little) break.

Yes , you are right: what do we know of each other ? Very good a reminder.

Madhu

By: satchit

satchit — Thu, 02 Mar 2017 14:33:39 +0000

Hi Madhu,
Without sharing we cannot live – so certainly it has value. The whole forum here consists of sharing. Sharing articles, sharing comments and sharing personal interactions. You sharing your interest and questions to me and I sharing my answers and thoughts to you.

I share what I want to share and I don’t share what I don’t want to share. Both are expressions of my freedom.

By: madhu dagmar frantzen

madhu dagmar frantzen — Wed, 01 Mar 2017 21:21:10 +0000

What is sharing for you, Satchit? Does such have any value for you? Or is all covered up for you by: “Something may resonate in us, that’s all”?

Madhu

By: satchit

satchit — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 09:03:27 +0000

Certainly it is elusive. Tathata means accepting the elusiveness too.
What do we really know about the other?
Something may resonate in us, that’s all.

By: Parmartha

Parmartha — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 08:17:57 +0000

“Ordinary ecstasy” is elusive. That old song and that pic are just symbols of reminder, it can happen, and a commune or Buddhafield can help to get one there.

Moments happens in my present life too, but I have met very, very few who are in it continuously, or able to spark it in others.

By: Parmartha

Parmartha — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 08:13:51 +0000

Thanks Madhu.
I think your definition of a communard is good: Those”who bowed down to a vision beyond personal profit or career.”

The pic is a reminder to me of some of those good times…and that they were there not because of Sheela and company, but in spite of them.

By: satchit

satchit — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 06:30:48 +0000

@ Parmartha

As far I have understood Osho, “ecstasy” is a function of the Here and Now. If there is no ecstasy I always ask myself, “what hinders me to be in the Here and Now?”

By: madhu dagmar frantzen

madhu dagmar frantzen — Mon, 27 Feb 2017 22:28:01 +0000

We see the ´Gachamis’ here, I more than guess, and some of this that made sense, Parmartha.

This SN website, though is not a psychic and social field to mirror the appreciation most of those hearts deserve, who bowed down to a vision beyond personal profit or career. And one can find out that very soon and easily by the sarcastic remarks of those who have never been there, but have an ´opinion´.

And otherwise, SN UK provides us in abundance with ´shadow-work´ and it always takes effort to not ´throw out valuables´with the bath water´, so to say.

It´s a beautiful pic and thank you for posting that. For me, it´s more than a ´pic.

Madhu

By: Parmartha

Parmartha — Mon, 27 Feb 2017 18:24:08 +0000

I guess I could remember at least 200 such moments like this one, being an actual communard did take one deeper.

Many commentators around Sannyas never experienced actually being a communard:
The magic of doing a job, in a relaxed way, and in good and like minded company, and against the background of surrender.

“Ecstasy when I see your face, ecstasy, when I look in your eyes, when I feel your grace, ecstasy, when I look in your eyes, ecstascy. “