he and his lover/ poet /master/ friend shams i tabriz….

some of those love poems make you wonder just what sherbet he was eating that frothed in his mouth…..

of course i have no problem with gay enlightenment
in fact anyones welcome to use any consensual hole thats available for disappearing into the divine..

historically though ….

men / women independent relationships including spiritual ones were not consensual , allowed or sponsored even in europe until women achieved progressively more economic independence….

so it comes as no surpriset that historically the wise ones were only a bit radical socially. if ever…..they either had no interest in or were indebted to or constrained by their functioning milieu…. in fact radical social or political language which we recognise as being relevant , is missing from, i would casually estimate ,every single enlightened master or mistress until osho came along…not that he avoided living around …and even actively or passively sponsoring an hierarchical structure in the commune for better or worse…

now we have to contend with far worse than mere sexual politics ,that being obviously beneath our intelligence, instead we had/have to deal with an imposition of psycotherapeutic abuse ….
.
The opposite to an illiterate emotionally repressed society is not an intellectually therapeutically composed one full of ready made formulas or idioms. Its one that strengthens kids to recognise bullshit and act quickly against abuse, by noticing the difference between fun feelings and deadly promises.

If it dont feel like love it aint love.No ‘growth’ needed or expected.

Your, my ,our love is enough..
and fuck anyone who says it isnt…. master or mistresses included.

lesson learning and life go together…

xx

no women.

sufi in their whirling dresses, but no girls in THEIR dresses.
tibetan monks groaning like bullfrogs on a bad beer hangover, but no babes to be found in the joint.
priests in their pompous eye-candy attire, but where are the females?

makes you wonder, no?

sufis do whirling
tibetans do funny voices and humming..
pulling faces in the mirror..
hindus and all the rest do repetitive rhythmic mumbo-jumbo..
group singing….
and most religious priests around the world get dressed up in what look like their mum`s clothes….!

“meditation is just adult versions of kid`s games too…
humming,whirling,staying still,dancing,repeating rhythmic gobbledygook,gibberish,funny breathing,laughing,singing….
remember?”

frank, now THAT’s an original perception — one off, and seems to hold water on further pondering…

SD:
That’s not quite on the ball though, but an astute enough observation nonetheless… That’s just the Osho ‘meditations’ – a load of things to do for us screwed-up neurotics to reach a point where meditation can happen (if you’re lucky)…

Some people don’t seem to need all that preamble – and how many ‘veterans’ here do any of it these dfays anyway?!

the goof is out.
it was never in the bottle,
altho` maybe on it for a while….

speaking of books,
when devageet`s new book comes out-the one he was boasting here on sannyasnews community noticeboard would “ruffle a few feathers”.
(in a chicken coop,maybe..).
i can tell you in advance that the deepest esoteric truth that has been hitherto withheld from the hungry seeking neo-sannyas masses wallowing in spiritual ignorance and held in the safety of the akashik records for near on 30 years will be revealed in this already famous oeuvre will turn out to be no less than what every man/woman must come to know in the course of 84 thousand incarnations,or so…….

“life is a gas”

altho` to be perfectly honest,i did think that the room-full-of-mirrors trip-out gas salon bang next to the samadhi was a bit of a giveaway…….