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	<title>Comments on: Open Letter to the Inner Circle</title>
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		<title>By: meera</title>
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		<dc:creator>meera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 09:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[strangely enough 
everyone agrees with me here..

. even ramateerthas sannyasins in cologne.. remain silent... LOL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>strangely enough<br />
everyone agrees with me here..</p>
<p>. even ramateerthas sannyasins in cologne.. remain silent&#8230; LOL</p>
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		<title>By: meera</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/634#comment-16287</link>
		<dc:creator>meera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 12:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[there is nomore an  inner circle  in Poona 
nor is there anymore trademark on oshos words.. 
does ramatheertha 
leader of the cologne oshouta 
live behind the moon??? 

last fullmoon
 we were all watching the GURU movie at his place..
.afterwards we had a discussion about..
 ramatheertha stated
 that it is all a bogus idea to have communes.. 
´one should work on himself ´he said.. 
that means business for therapists.. 

he has no clue about 
osho´s vision of 
the Commune of
 the New Man New Woman New Child]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is nomore an  inner circle  in Poona<br />
nor is there anymore trademark on oshos words..<br />
does ramatheertha<br />
leader of the cologne oshouta<br />
live behind the moon??? </p>
<p>last fullmoon<br />
 we were all watching the GURU movie at his place..<br />
.afterwards we had a discussion about..<br />
 ramatheertha stated<br />
 that it is all a bogus idea to have communes..<br />
´one should work on himself ´he said..<br />
that means business for therapists.. </p>
<p>he has no clue about<br />
osho´s vision of<br />
the Commune of<br />
 the New Man New Woman New Child</p>
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		<title>By: LAKSHEN</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/634#comment-16286</link>
		<dc:creator>LAKSHEN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After reading the letter Ramateertha wrote to the Inner Circle, I am making the following public response: 
First of all I thank Ramateertha to come out and expose his point of view which I support all the way… actually, I think this letter shouldn´t be addressed only to the Inner Circle, but to the sannyas community at large!
Also, I am not sure if this ´so-called´ Inner Circle exists anymore, at least as it was designed by Osho before leaving His body.  Therefore let´s look at the Trademark and Copyright issues without depending on any sort of ´designed authorities´!!!
I liked very much the part in Ramateertha´s letter when he says: ”The name Osho stands for this amazing Master and His teachings and His vision. It cannot be separated: here the person and there the teachings…”  
This part reminded me about what I was told by Jayesh a couple of years ago when I proposed a collaboration by OIF for my project ´Osho the Movie´. He replied that ”Osho said not to focus on His person, but on His vision….” This tells me that a movie about His life isn´t following His so-called guidelines!
I responded saying:”What is the difference between the life of a Master and His vision?”  
If I read the story of Gurdjieff´s life, I may understand his vision even better!  And if we wouldn´t know the story of Socrates´ trial, or Jesus´ crucifixion or all the Zen and Sufi anecdotes about the Masters of those traditions… maybe we would not be capable to imbibe the fragrance and the silence of such visions
After my response there was no further answer by OIF but some time later I was threatened when I put an ad about my project on You Tube!  After receiving a notification by OIF regarding the ownership of Osho´s material, Google, who is behind  You Tube, took off my ad.  I immediately sent Google a counter-notification through my lawyer and, as the legal process goes, Google had to ask OIF to prove the ownership of such material. Obviously OIF couldn´t prove anything and Google uploaded my ad again (the ad is still up until now).
I make this story public not to emphasize my personal case, but just as an example of the way OIF has behaved with so many Osho´s lovers and disciples. I agree that some attention regarding bad use of Osho´s material and work should be there and I think also that Jayesh and all the other members of OIF are bona fide when they act the way they act. But most probably, even the Pope and the Ayatollahs, the mullahs and several cardinals are bona fide when they permit only four versions of the gospels, or/and interpret the Quran the way they do…   
The real issue here is: “How open are they are to re-visit such ´permits´ and ´interpretations´?”       
Maybe with all the turmoil around the Trademark issue (I know that soon the same legal opposition that Osho World made against OIF and won in the U.S.A. will also happen in Europe by a group of  European sannyasins and Centers),  the time is ripe for such re-consideration.
If such re-consideration will happen and an honest, heartfelt and open confrontation between all parties will take place, it will be such a blessing and re-born phase for all Osho’s lovers and disciples in the world.
I stand for that!!!
SW. LAKSHEN (writer, director and producer of Osho The Movie)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading the letter Ramateertha wrote to the Inner Circle, I am making the following public response:<br />
First of all I thank Ramateertha to come out and expose his point of view which I support all the way… actually, I think this letter shouldn´t be addressed only to the Inner Circle, but to the sannyas community at large!<br />
Also, I am not sure if this ´so-called´ Inner Circle exists anymore, at least as it was designed by Osho before leaving His body.  Therefore let´s look at the Trademark and Copyright issues without depending on any sort of ´designed authorities´!!!<br />
I liked very much the part in Ramateertha´s letter when he says: ”The name Osho stands for this amazing Master and His teachings and His vision. It cannot be separated: here the person and there the teachings…”<br />
This part reminded me about what I was told by Jayesh a couple of years ago when I proposed a collaboration by OIF for my project ´Osho the Movie´. He replied that ”Osho said not to focus on His person, but on His vision….” This tells me that a movie about His life isn´t following His so-called guidelines!<br />
I responded saying:”What is the difference between the life of a Master and His vision?”<br />
If I read the story of Gurdjieff´s life, I may understand his vision even better!  And if we wouldn´t know the story of Socrates´ trial, or Jesus´ crucifixion or all the Zen and Sufi anecdotes about the Masters of those traditions… maybe we would not be capable to imbibe the fragrance and the silence of such visions<br />
After my response there was no further answer by OIF but some time later I was threatened when I put an ad about my project on You Tube!  After receiving a notification by OIF regarding the ownership of Osho´s material, Google, who is behind  You Tube, took off my ad.  I immediately sent Google a counter-notification through my lawyer and, as the legal process goes, Google had to ask OIF to prove the ownership of such material. Obviously OIF couldn´t prove anything and Google uploaded my ad again (the ad is still up until now).<br />
I make this story public not to emphasize my personal case, but just as an example of the way OIF has behaved with so many Osho´s lovers and disciples. I agree that some attention regarding bad use of Osho´s material and work should be there and I think also that Jayesh and all the other members of OIF are bona fide when they act the way they act. But most probably, even the Pope and the Ayatollahs, the mullahs and several cardinals are bona fide when they permit only four versions of the gospels, or/and interpret the Quran the way they do…<br />
The real issue here is: “How open are they are to re-visit such ´permits´ and ´interpretations´?”<br />
Maybe with all the turmoil around the Trademark issue (I know that soon the same legal opposition that Osho World made against OIF and won in the U.S.A. will also happen in Europe by a group of  European sannyasins and Centers),  the time is ripe for such re-consideration.<br />
If such re-consideration will happen and an honest, heartfelt and open confrontation between all parties will take place, it will be such a blessing and re-born phase for all Osho’s lovers and disciples in the world.<br />
I stand for that!!!<br />
SW. LAKSHEN (writer, director and producer of Osho The Movie)</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/634#comment-15997</link>
		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 13:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i met ramteetha wandering the streets the other day.
he has been stripped and de-frocked.and altho` he quite enjoyed it at the time,he has come to realise that he is after so many years no longer the bishop of koln..
no guru,no teacher,no money.......
he asked me for a few pfenigs,i bought him abratwurst and wished him all the best...

the moral of the story is if you want to stay the bishop,dont mess with the pope.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i met ramteetha wandering the streets the other day.<br />
he has been stripped and de-frocked.and altho` he quite enjoyed it at the time,he has come to realise that he is after so many years no longer the bishop of koln..<br />
no guru,no teacher,no money&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
he asked me for a few pfenigs,i bought him abratwurst and wished him all the best&#8230;</p>
<p>the moral of the story is if you want to stay the bishop,dont mess with the pope&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Shantam i Singh</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/634#comment-15933</link>
		<dc:creator>Shantam i Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hallo Ramateertha,
If you have got any response from people in authority, please share at sannyasnews.
Love
shantam]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hallo Ramateertha,<br />
If you have got any response from people in authority, please share at sannyasnews.<br />
Love<br />
shantam</p>
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		<title>By: Shantam I Singh</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/634#comment-15866</link>
		<dc:creator>Shantam I Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 08:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Uncle Albert is staying for the weekend, and little Ernie is asking him all sorts of questions. 
&quot;Uncle Albert,&quot; he asks, &quot;why are some men bald on the front of their head?&quot;
&quot;Well,&quot; replies Uncle Albert, &quot;these men are the great thinkers.&quot;
&quot;And what about the men that are bald on the back of their head?&quot; asks little Ernie.
&quot;These men,&quot; explains Uncle Albert, &quot;are the great fuckers.&quot;
&quot;So what does it mean,&quot; continues little Ernie, &quot;when they are bald all over?&quot;
&quot;That&#039;s obvious,&quot; replies Uncle Albert, &quot;these men think they are great fuckers.&quot;

(A joke by Osho)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uncle Albert is staying for the weekend, and little Ernie is asking him all sorts of questions.<br />
&#8220;Uncle Albert,&#8221; he asks, &#8220;why are some men bald on the front of their head?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Well,&#8221; replies Uncle Albert, &#8220;these men are the great thinkers.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;And what about the men that are bald on the back of their head?&#8221; asks little Ernie.<br />
&#8220;These men,&#8221; explains Uncle Albert, &#8220;are the great fuckers.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;So what does it mean,&#8221; continues little Ernie, &#8220;when they are bald all over?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;That&#8217;s obvious,&#8221; replies Uncle Albert, &#8220;these men think they are great fuckers.&#8221;</p>
<p>(A joke by Osho)</p>
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		<title>By: Shantam I Singh</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/634#comment-15858</link>
		<dc:creator>Shantam I Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frank, in less than three years time, the video is being watched  2,999,136 times, not because of enjoyment for Cricket but to listen Mother sister( Ma, Behan thing) through the electronic media.
As it is heard Osho saying that it will be a tremendous task for His translators to bring his poems into English and to translate, Pune 2 jokes into Hindi, for simple reason &quot;Fuck&quot; has been incorporated into literary language , but Hindi word &quot;Chodna&quot; has not got that literary recognition, even though it is the widely used word in North India.

SO if you meet some Indian in the states, please ask him the meaning of &quot;Teri Ma Ki Chut&quot;; he may start crying because of home nostalgia!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank, in less than three years time, the video is being watched  2,999,136 times, not because of enjoyment for Cricket but to listen Mother sister( Ma, Behan thing) through the electronic media.<br />
As it is heard Osho saying that it will be a tremendous task for His translators to bring his poems into English and to translate, Pune 2 jokes into Hindi, for simple reason &#8220;Fuck&#8221; has been incorporated into literary language , but Hindi word &#8220;Chodna&#8221; has not got that literary recognition, even though it is the widely used word in North India.</p>
<p>SO if you meet some Indian in the states, please ask him the meaning of &#8220;Teri Ma Ki Chut&#8221;; he may start crying because of home nostalgia!</p>
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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/634#comment-15856</link>
		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aye, ye ken Frank, he&#039;s a rite wan fur the comely bessoms, ye ken the hairies.

The expression &#039;hairies&#039; developed in post Second World War Glasgow. It referred to working class women who were a cut below the middle classes because they could not afford to wear hats.

Gawn Frankie boy, ye&#039;ll be a razor king in no time, pal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aye, ye ken Frank, he&#8217;s a rite wan fur the comely bessoms, ye ken the hairies.</p>
<p>The expression &#8216;hairies&#8217; developed in post Second World War Glasgow. It referred to working class women who were a cut below the middle classes because they could not afford to wear hats.</p>
<p>Gawn Frankie boy, ye&#8217;ll be a razor king in no time, pal.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/634#comment-15855</link>
		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[shag som buruds....?!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shag som buruds&#8230;.?!</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/634#comment-15854</link>
		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[arm off doon th` aashraam  tae shag som buruds...
g`neet....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>arm off doon th` aashraam  tae shag som buruds&#8230;<br />
g`neet&#8230;.</p>
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