Comments on: Spiritual Life and ‘Having Children’

By: kusum

kusum — Mon, 17 Oct 2016 13:25:30 +0000

Curiosity & wanting to experience are the major characteristics of most youth & hormones (natural intoxication) play part as well.

Some are born as a wild child without any unnatural intoxication.

Are pubs still open??….Want some divine wine…Lol….

By: shantam prem

shantam prem — Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:23:25 +0000

If and when global scale war happens, it will be due to the people who pump religious beliefs into their children´s brains.

Religion will be the cause of large-scale war. It is only a matter of time. (It is not from Nostradamus’s book).

MOD: THEN WE SHOULD DELETE “If”?

By: Arpana

Arpana — Mon, 17 Oct 2016 12:03:15 +0000

I remember an aunt saying to me during a phone conversation that life was sweet, and I thought to myself, “No, it isn’t, life is bitter-sweet”; and I found that really liberating.

Maybe one of the first times I ‘honoured’ my own life experience, without deluding myself that my experiencing pain as well as joy was exceptional. (I didn’t get a big head about the understanding or that I had known both).

By: Arpana

Arpana — Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:48:36 +0000

Yeah, fair point.

I used it really to avoid being specific. I would have used a different word if I was prepared to be more specific. (I didn’t do anything bad I got hung out to dry).

By: satyadeva

satyadeva — Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:47:34 +0000

Or, to be more specific, “I was dragged around by my sexual wants / by wanting sex”. And “I began to not want sexual wanting”.

By: satyadeva

satyadeva — Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:42:02 +0000

Not having a go at you here, Arps, but that word ‘desire’ seems so old-fashioned, of another, more genteel age, somehow almost ‘respectably pompous’, even reeking of ‘spiritual correctness’!

I much prefer the word ‘want’, eg “I began to want to want nothing/to be without wants”, and “I was dragged around by what I wanted”. (Acknowledgement to Aussie Barry Long for highlighting this).

By: Arpana

Arpana — Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:26:06 +0000

After I wrote this remark, SD, I recalled an incident that took place when I was about twenty-five, and the aftermath of that incident was that I inched towards desiring to be desireless. (I supose in some nascent way I began to understand that I was dragged around by desire).

By: Arpana

Arpana — Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:18:30 +0000

It was awful at times.
Holy Moly, Heaven and Hell.
Backwards and forwards.

By: satyadeva

satyadeva — Mon, 17 Oct 2016 10:54:13 +0000

But many people are into relationships in their teens and early twenties, and don’t find it a “bondage” at all! Even if they do, or sometimes do, it’s all part of getting experience.

And “intoxication of youth” sounds a rather idealised version of that stage of life to me. Many young people have quite acute personal problems and it’s all too easy for them to drown them via various ‘unnatural’ forms of “intoxication”. And pick up the pieces later, maybe much later….

By: kusum

kusum — Mon, 17 Oct 2016 00:56:19 +0000

Lol….who does not like to party at the age of 18 or early twenties? Who wants a bondage of relationship when intoxication of youth is enough unto itself?