Love Jenny

xxx

and for a softer life than i see other people are comfortable with in the ‘world’….being that gentleness is innate in achieving correspondence with others….. and all life…

it seems that only by the extremes could we cauterize / limit that driving distorted ugliness that dominates in schools and offices ….and the harshness of people’s /our bodies and voices and lostness in the eyes was transformed into something a little more of a Pythagorean Mystery school….complete with shining comfortable human beings…..

As far as being in the now of now…well that is not a consumable function….and i’m just very very grateful to have received those formative energy darshan satoris that indicated the triumph of spirit over matter….

personally I dont want to reincarnate, as a vehicle for the universe’s experiments… but fuck me, this stopping of the wheel is or seems to be elusive….recently i saw mooji in london….and he really is a lovely lovely man….and…. i wouldnt want to get involved as searcher ever again…..but without that can i stop the wheel??…

watch this space….
(or not)

Just another using Osho for his own convenience…

Even though this sentence is addressed to Gump,
my direct request to SD is to create a thread with comprehensive points.
After all, there is a limit to react all the time. Why not construct.

SD:
SP, I’d say I’m responding to FG, rather than ‘reacting’, I’m telling him what I think of him – as he presents himself here, he might be different elsewhere, of course – in a direct way, which might conceivably be helpful to him if he were to bother to look at it (which of course he’d never admit to here!).

Because at times he comes across as typifying a certain sannyasin attitude, a certain lazy mentality that justifies all manner of self-indulgence, in the name of ‘Osho’.

Do you not think that might be worth looking at, or even discussing?

You yourself are a fine example, are you not, going on and on and on, continuously whining about the Poona management, week after week, month after month, year after year?!

I’ve also recently asked for statements about how people are NOW connected to Osho and what they think are his teachings, in a practical sense that actually influences their life. And asked for unemotional responses rather than sentimental guff.

No replies yet….

but if you limit the meaning of my criticism to a bygone decade, then thats imprecise….Preciosely because,its a constant theme of how sannyas is utterly dysfunctional — at the point of the ‘ i need to belong and get the goodies’..the testicle point….
.If you have a different experience of the world, well trala la for you .But if you defend those who emotionally /sexually abuse in the pandoras box of sannyas -by my definition -then i cant share your intent and vision.In fact I oppose it. .I have many more examples up to the contemporary period of ambitious manipulative hidden agendas by the group think acolytes and their cohorts.

I feel sorry for myself which sometimes helps, but yours doesnt.
And I believe in free love and sex, not an orchestrated therapised hidden agenda, paying borrowed ‘love’.
Freedom = paying for the damage not walking away repeatedly and saying ‘do dynamic’.
-no thats really dirty.Which contrarily by my transparency i define as making me clean, sometimes naive and definitely stupid, but like veganism ethically sound.

Sannyas= growing or getting as much as possible for as little as possible.Industrial quantity dislocation on a psychological interpersonal level.
.ships in the night.. …big love I dont think so….

If you are more expansive than me on these sannyas issues kindly illustrate your own successful formula for others to reproduce, and exactly what the payoff still is for you.Transparently then that would be illuminating.
What I’m doing now is reminding myself and others that if it dont feel like love… it aint love.

cheers.

SD:
You don’t seem to realise, SP, that this is not supposed to be a theoretical, philosophical work, neither is it necessarily supposed to be poetry.

What’s there has apparently emerged from direct experience, it’s simply how it is…

Haven’t you read the introduction? Including the advice to read it as if you’re looking at the sea, at the stars, rather than with an ‘argumentative’ mind?

Actually, for me there’s ‘poetry’ and certainly myth a-plenty in this book, but you seem not to grasp it…

Oh well, once an Indian…(No offence, SP, if it’s not for you it’s not for you. Simple).

Anand, Yes you are right, Anand is an old Amigo of mine. He doesn’t come to Ibiza much since he was effectively banned from the island over ten years ago. He is still a crazy rebel and is much loved wherever he goes.
If you head up to San Juanillo and visit the Tiohar community why not go next door and see if youcatch Ma Menlah in. She runs a small resort type scene with cabannas and is a lovely person.
As for Tiohar, he does good things and is a rallying flag for people to gather round and get very creative on a social level. I’ve met him a couple of times and he is without doubt as unenlightened as your average Israeli.
Watch out for the red tide.