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	<title>Comments on: Krishnaprem remembers a 1973 Darshan with Osho</title>
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		<title>By: Chinmaya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chinmaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 18:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Prem Boobbie,

You are very gentle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prem Boobbie,</p>
<p>You are very gentle.</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/617#comment-14066</link>
		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Meditation is a kind of medicine. Its use is only for the time being. Once you have learned the quality, then you need not do any particular meditation. Then meditation has to spread all over your life.

Talking or silent, moving, unmoving, the essence is at ease. The essence is at ease, that is the key word. The essence is at ease, that is the key statement. Do whatsoever you are doing, but at the deepest core remain at ease, cool, calm, centered.
Osho]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meditation is a kind of medicine. Its use is only for the time being. Once you have learned the quality, then you need not do any particular meditation. Then meditation has to spread all over your life.</p>
<p>Talking or silent, moving, unmoving, the essence is at ease. The essence is at ease, that is the key word. The essence is at ease, that is the key statement. Do whatsoever you are doing, but at the deepest core remain at ease, cool, calm, centered.<br />
Osho</p>
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		<title>By: prem bubbie</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/617#comment-13956</link>
		<dc:creator>prem bubbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For you SP the ball is still stuck in your mouth!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For you SP the ball is still stuck in your mouth!!!</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/617#comment-13936</link>
		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perfect Goal, Anand. I hope ball stays in the net.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfect Goal, Anand. I hope ball stays in the net.</p>
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		<title>By: Satya Deva</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/617#comment-13930</link>
		<dc:creator>Satya Deva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, stick with what&#039;s good for you...

And let others stick with what&#039;s good for them.

Simple, n&#039;est-ce pas, SP?!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, stick with what&#8217;s good for you&#8230;</p>
<p>And let others stick with what&#8217;s good for them.</p>
<p>Simple, n&#8217;est-ce pas, SP?!</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/617#comment-13923</link>
		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SD, To play national card is never my way, but when i see people from some cultural background, who turns the master game into a swinger club of their personal whim, use and throw like a can of Cola, because someone of their friend/wife/husband/newspaper advertisement has recommended something NEW, 
i must say.. A ROLLING STONE GATHER NO MOSS.

That is it.

( it is just  my personal opinion)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SD, To play national card is never my way, but when i see people from some cultural background, who turns the master game into a swinger club of their personal whim, use and throw like a can of Cola, because someone of their friend/wife/husband/newspaper advertisement has recommended something NEW,<br />
i must say.. A ROLLING STONE GATHER NO MOSS.</p>
<p>That is it.</p>
<p>( it is just  my personal opinion)</p>
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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/617#comment-13921</link>
		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SP You ask:  1.50 PM comment wants to know whether the people like you have also collective mind or not.

And what exactly are people like me?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SP You ask:  1.50 PM comment wants to know whether the people like you have also collective mind or not.</p>
<p>And what exactly are people like me?</p>
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		<title>By: Satya Deva</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/617#comment-13916</link>
		<dc:creator>Satya Deva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For &#039;returning Osho to his roots&#039;, read &#039;claiming Osho for our own&#039;, which sounds pretty nationalistic to me -not surprising really, given India&#039;s economic upsurge and the social/behavioural changes this has set in motion.

But not a particularly &#039;pure&#039; motive, in fact it has the ring of egotism to me...

You know: &quot;Osho was/is the greatest guru, Osho was an Indian, we are also Indians, therefore we are the greatest disciples...&quot;

Anything like this would be just childish - and ignorant - nonsense, of course, but there you go...It&#039;s how the conditioned mind - well-meaning and so &#039;sincere&#039; - begins to destroy a Master&#039;s work...

And - but of course - all in the name of &quot;Freedom&quot;!

Just a few more random thoughts:
Perhaps India is now facing its own 60&#039;s and 70&#039;s, where the younger (and not so young, eg Shantam Prem!)people are finally breaking free of the restraints of many generations- or so they imagine...

Because ultimately it might only amount to copying the materialist West - with all the attendant problems and foolishness that implies. 

Seems the inevitable way of humanity though...

But there&#039;s nothing worse than an Indian trying to be a westerner! (And vice versa).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For &#8216;returning Osho to his roots&#8217;, read &#8216;claiming Osho for our own&#8217;, which sounds pretty nationalistic to me -not surprising really, given India&#8217;s economic upsurge and the social/behavioural changes this has set in motion.</p>
<p>But not a particularly &#8216;pure&#8217; motive, in fact it has the ring of egotism to me&#8230;</p>
<p>You know: &#8220;Osho was/is the greatest guru, Osho was an Indian, we are also Indians, therefore we are the greatest disciples&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Anything like this would be just childish &#8211; and ignorant &#8211; nonsense, of course, but there you go&#8230;It&#8217;s how the conditioned mind &#8211; well-meaning and so &#8216;sincere&#8217; &#8211; begins to destroy a Master&#8217;s work&#8230;</p>
<p>And &#8211; but of course &#8211; all in the name of &#8220;Freedom&#8221;!</p>
<p>Just a few more random thoughts:<br />
Perhaps India is now facing its own 60&#8242;s and 70&#8242;s, where the younger (and not so young, eg Shantam Prem!)people are finally breaking free of the restraints of many generations- or so they imagine&#8230;</p>
<p>Because ultimately it might only amount to copying the materialist West &#8211; with all the attendant problems and foolishness that implies. </p>
<p>Seems the inevitable way of humanity though&#8230;</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s nothing worse than an Indian trying to be a westerner! (And vice versa).</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/617#comment-13915</link>
		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lokesh, 1.50 PM comment wants to know whether the people like you have also collective mind or not.
What is collective mind, one can read on the net, the thinking influenced by the cutlural trends, behaviour and linguistic,religious or geographical conditioning.

for example, this quotaion from today´s headlines,
  &quot;I have different codes and morals than they do; my parents taught me that.&quot;

Can you tell from which part of the world this football coach comes from.
From Swedan or UK or ?

Similarly one can see how a western Europian Ex/Sannyasin will re/act in a certain situation in light of Osho´s words than the Indian sannyasin.

It means 1.50 Pm comment wants to know whether you guys have also the collective mind or not, because most of the western people will feel a bit ashamed to think that the neighbour is using the same hair lotion to shave the beard and also the Arsch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lokesh, 1.50 PM comment wants to know whether the people like you have also collective mind or not.<br />
What is collective mind, one can read on the net, the thinking influenced by the cutlural trends, behaviour and linguistic,religious or geographical conditioning.</p>
<p>for example, this quotaion from today´s headlines,<br />
  &#8220;I have different codes and morals than they do; my parents taught me that.&#8221;</p>
<p>Can you tell from which part of the world this football coach comes from.<br />
From Swedan or UK or ?</p>
<p>Similarly one can see how a western Europian Ex/Sannyasin will re/act in a certain situation in light of Osho´s words than the Indian sannyasin.</p>
<p>It means 1.50 Pm comment wants to know whether you guys have also the collective mind or not, because most of the western people will feel a bit ashamed to think that the neighbour is using the same hair lotion to shave the beard and also the Arsch.</p>
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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/617#comment-13914</link>
		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SP: Sorry I don&#039;t quite get what you are saying in the 1:50PM comment.

You ask: Do you have also the feeling that Sannyas( Indian names etc.) is on a decreasing trend in the west.

I don&#039;t think it is so much a question of feeling that but rather seeing. People are having to struggle more with material things in the west during the last decade or so. Therefore people don&#039;t have so much time for spiritual values plus people don&#039;t use LSD so much and therefore their cosmic curiosity is not sparked. You don&#039; think about meditation on coke, you think about  sex. And coke is bigger than ever. Plus Indian gurus have a bad name. It started with Maharishi and ended with Osho, who is remembered more for his scandals than as a saviour of mankind. Osho is not so famous as you appear to think. Many people, if you asked them if they knew who Osho was, would probably think Osho was washing powder.

You say: More and more sannyasins are reverting back to their Christian names and very few new people are going into this experiment of Sannyas.
Well, that is partly for convenience sake. You introduce yourself to your neighbours as Swami Anand Kundalini and you are off to a bad start.
The reason for people not going into the sannyas experiment is that it is, to all intents and purposes over, defunct, history. Something which you seem to have a hard job grasping.
Jumping ito the holy fire is very old hat. These days people are bunjee jumping or maybe free diving into blue holes and going down 200 ft on the oxygen that the diver has in his lungs. Get with it SP, free fall divers are miles ahead when it comes to personal discipline and meditative states. If you don&#039;t think so try sticking your head under water for a minute and holding your breath. The goose is out, man.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SP: Sorry I don&#8217;t quite get what you are saying in the 1:50PM comment.</p>
<p>You ask: Do you have also the feeling that Sannyas( Indian names etc.) is on a decreasing trend in the west.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it is so much a question of feeling that but rather seeing. People are having to struggle more with material things in the west during the last decade or so. Therefore people don&#8217;t have so much time for spiritual values plus people don&#8217;t use LSD so much and therefore their cosmic curiosity is not sparked. You don&#8217; think about meditation on coke, you think about  sex. And coke is bigger than ever. Plus Indian gurus have a bad name. It started with Maharishi and ended with Osho, who is remembered more for his scandals than as a saviour of mankind. Osho is not so famous as you appear to think. Many people, if you asked them if they knew who Osho was, would probably think Osho was washing powder.</p>
<p>You say: More and more sannyasins are reverting back to their Christian names and very few new people are going into this experiment of Sannyas.<br />
Well, that is partly for convenience sake. You introduce yourself to your neighbours as Swami Anand Kundalini and you are off to a bad start.<br />
The reason for people not going into the sannyas experiment is that it is, to all intents and purposes over, defunct, history. Something which you seem to have a hard job grasping.<br />
Jumping ito the holy fire is very old hat. These days people are bunjee jumping or maybe free diving into blue holes and going down 200 ft on the oxygen that the diver has in his lungs. Get with it SP, free fall divers are miles ahead when it comes to personal discipline and meditative states. If you don&#8217;t think so try sticking your head under water for a minute and holding your breath. The goose is out, man.</p>
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