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		<title>By: Kavita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kavita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2016 03:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[M, when I heard &amp; saw this singer for the first time, I guessed this could not be G&#039;s daughter so I then searched a bit. 

I enjoy reading these days and I am reminded of a Swami Vishwas in the early 1990s, who owned a place and rented it out to sannyasins. He had named it White House, it was the area which is known as Indian Village in Koregaon Park. 

He was a Gurdjieff devotee to the core, he even dressed like him, he had a lovely huge library which he shared with friends. My bf was also a great G devotee, and I too got a lil carried away, since we both enjoyed reading together.

x K]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M, when I heard &#038; saw this singer for the first time, I guessed this could not be G&#8217;s daughter so I then searched a bit. </p>
<p>I enjoy reading these days and I am reminded of a Swami Vishwas in the early 1990s, who owned a place and rented it out to sannyasins. He had named it White House, it was the area which is known as Indian Village in Koregaon Park. </p>
<p>He was a Gurdjieff devotee to the core, he even dressed like him, he had a lovely huge library which he shared with friends. My bf was also a great G devotee, and I too got a lil carried away, since we both enjoyed reading together.</p>
<p>x K</p>
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		<title>By: prem martyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>prem martyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2016 20:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And now for our caller on the line, this one from 1971...

Run for Home (Lindisfarne):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOIxRkdzjCA]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now for our caller on the line, this one from 1971&#8230;</p>
<p>Run for Home (Lindisfarne):<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOIxRkdzjCA" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOIxRkdzjCA</a></p>
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		<title>By: prem martyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>prem martyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2016 19:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks a bunch, Tan, 

It&#039;s a pleasure.

So is listening to Lindisfarne... 

Lindisfarne ~ Meet Me On The Corner - Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYPBF4s8m_Y

Which is my way of saying thanks and leaving people dreams...
Osho style....

Be-loved,

M]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a bunch, Tan, </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a pleasure.</p>
<p>So is listening to Lindisfarne&#8230; </p>
<p>Lindisfarne ~ Meet Me On The Corner &#8211; Y<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYPBF4s8m_Y" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYPBF4s8m_Y</a></p>
<p>Which is my way of saying thanks and leaving people dreams&#8230;<br />
Osho style&#8230;.</p>
<p>Be-loved,</p>
<p>M</p>
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		<title>By: prem martyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>prem martyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2016 19:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Blimey, Kavita...You got all that? 

Well, gulp, goshhh...I&#039;m a bit gobsmacked. I&#039;m also surprised I never heard of her even though she was the Brit Best Female Artist award winner in 2011.

Thanks for the contribution and the positive vibes.

x M]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blimey, Kavita&#8230;You got all that? </p>
<p>Well, gulp, goshhh&#8230;I&#8217;m a bit gobsmacked. I&#8217;m also surprised I never heard of her even though she was the Brit Best Female Artist award winner in 2011.</p>
<p>Thanks for the contribution and the positive vibes.</p>
<p>x M</p>
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		<title>By: Tan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2016 18:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PM,
You are getting better and better, if this is still possible! It is a delight to read your posts and I always become enriched with all your information. You are a giver! I don&#039;t know how you manage it all.

Anyway, please, always come back, don&#039;t leave SN for too long.

All the best for the next project, and don&#039;t forget us. XXX]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PM,<br />
You are getting better and better, if this is still possible! It is a delight to read your posts and I always become enriched with all your information. You are a giver! I don&#8217;t know how you manage it all.</p>
<p>Anyway, please, always come back, don&#8217;t leave SN for too long.</p>
<p>All the best for the next project, and don&#8217;t forget us. XXX</p>
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		<title>By: prem martyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>prem martyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2016 11:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Madhu...

...And thank you for enjoying!

:)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Madhu&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;And thank you for enjoying!<br />
 <img src='http://sannyasnews.org/now/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: prem martyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>prem martyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2016 11:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent research there, Madhu.

I have been told...
Amiyo trained first as a scientist in Geology - rocks and that sort of thing, and performing since childhood with her parents in the community. So, it&#039;s a perfect fusion of her love of dance and structured symbolic archetype, together, through Osho, Gurdjieff, Music and Dance. 

I shouldn&#039;t want to write too much on anyone else&#039;s behalf online, as particularly I also, privately, remain grateful to her over all these years.

I think it&#039;s very useful to reflect on substantial qualities and to sponsor Osho&#039;s legacy from our own Osho-ness as we still find it. My understanding is that the world and my world benefits, still. 

I can confirm the overall intent and specific effect of what Amiyo describes. 

Possibly, as in any practice, one has the impression that all the sweat and sweet tears involved are a &#039;quickening&#039; of the basic material. 

The show goes on. It&#039;s implicit.

I trust that these contributions expand and support others&#039; investigations. It was not an intention of mine to post as a main topic (it was the SN crew, as Kavita points out), but it would be churlish of me to walk away from writing replies, even though I don&#039;t know how or what will be (as the Spanish saying goes) understood.

Love.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent research there, Madhu.</p>
<p>I have been told&#8230;<br />
Amiyo trained first as a scientist in Geology &#8211; rocks and that sort of thing, and performing since childhood with her parents in the community. So, it&#8217;s a perfect fusion of her love of dance and structured symbolic archetype, together, through Osho, Gurdjieff, Music and Dance. </p>
<p>I shouldn&#8217;t want to write too much on anyone else&#8217;s behalf online, as particularly I also, privately, remain grateful to her over all these years.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s very useful to reflect on substantial qualities and to sponsor Osho&#8217;s legacy from our own Osho-ness as we still find it. My understanding is that the world and my world benefits, still. </p>
<p>I can confirm the overall intent and specific effect of what Amiyo describes. </p>
<p>Possibly, as in any practice, one has the impression that all the sweat and sweet tears involved are a &#8216;quickening&#8217; of the basic material. </p>
<p>The show goes on. It&#8217;s implicit.</p>
<p>I trust that these contributions expand and support others&#8217; investigations. It was not an intention of mine to post as a main topic (it was the SN crew, as Kavita points out), but it would be churlish of me to walk away from writing replies, even though I don&#8217;t know how or what will be (as the Spanish saying goes) understood.</p>
<p>Love.</p>
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		<title>By: Kavita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kavita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2016 07:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After listening to this song I felt how some of our fathers &amp; mothers are always there to remind us to be always alert, in their own way.

Thank you, Martyn, this song re-showed me a direction through his book, &#039;Life is real only then when I am&#039;, again leading to no direction!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After listening to this song I felt how some of our fathers &#038; mothers are always there to remind us to be always alert, in their own way.</p>
<p>Thank you, Martyn, this song re-showed me a direction through his book, &#8216;Life is real only then when I am&#8217;, again leading to no direction!</p>
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		<title>By: madhu dagmar frantzen</title>
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		<dc:creator>madhu dagmar frantzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2016 05:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[P.S:
Taken from an interview Amiyo gave to somebody in a DAO centre - and I loved to read the long interview too, as although I didn´t attend one of her groups I´ve been a watcher of the dances and that made something inside me!

Very pleased, Prem Martyn, that your report reminds me...and maybe such an interview belongs to the &#039;SN-book&#039; too?

&quot;The movements nourish our essence, they are not meant to serve our Ego. At first it seems like everybody does the same but actually every dancer is strongly responsible and has very specific role in his position, in his sequence, in his displacement and has to apply a balanced attention between himself and the world around him. 

Gurdjieff used to say that the movements are not an art, they are a science, and they are an Objective science. Gurdjieff wanted a certain effect to be manifested through the Movements and he based his work on the science of archetypes: for example the archetype of compassion, or courage, gratitude, or peace, or joy, or nostalgia. He created the movements with this idea to embody a certain archetype on earth. 

This effect happens of course in the dancer himself but also happens on the public watching the dance. So in that sense it’s an Objective science. The Movements are at the service of consciousness, not at the service of ego and personality.&quot; 

(Amiyo)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S:<br />
Taken from an interview Amiyo gave to somebody in a DAO centre &#8211; and I loved to read the long interview too, as although I didn´t attend one of her groups I´ve been a watcher of the dances and that made something inside me!</p>
<p>Very pleased, Prem Martyn, that your report reminds me&#8230;and maybe such an interview belongs to the &#8216;SN-book&#8217; too?</p>
<p>&#8220;The movements nourish our essence, they are not meant to serve our Ego. At first it seems like everybody does the same but actually every dancer is strongly responsible and has very specific role in his position, in his sequence, in his displacement and has to apply a balanced attention between himself and the world around him. </p>
<p>Gurdjieff used to say that the movements are not an art, they are a science, and they are an Objective science. Gurdjieff wanted a certain effect to be manifested through the Movements and he based his work on the science of archetypes: for example the archetype of compassion, or courage, gratitude, or peace, or joy, or nostalgia. He created the movements with this idea to embody a certain archetype on earth. </p>
<p>This effect happens of course in the dancer himself but also happens on the public watching the dance. So in that sense it’s an Objective science. The Movements are at the service of consciousness, not at the service of ego and personality.&#8221; </p>
<p>(Amiyo)</p>
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		<title>By: madhu dagmar frantzen</title>
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		<dc:creator>madhu dagmar frantzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2016 21:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Well, as Osho had personally left me in charge of myself, as all Swamis and Mas likely also know for themselves by now, it would not have been gracious of me to be involved with rubber-stamping Gurdjieff-dancing without a decent dollop of Osho-infused merry-making.&quot;(Prem Martyn)

Dear You, 

Thank you for your report here, Prem Martyn, I also take it &quot;without a decent dollop&quot; and wish you very well, to integrate all you´ve experienced.

Enjoyed very much to hear about the garden and that a few seeds grew up to fabulous flowers. Amiyo and her work is one of them.

And you are so right, declaring: &quot;Sometimes it’s essential to be reading from the same page, when sharing moments.&quot;

Btw, Gurdijeff left with his beloveds about six children...round about, and who knows? It just happened.

With love,

Madhu



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Well, as Osho had personally left me in charge of myself, as all Swamis and Mas likely also know for themselves by now, it would not have been gracious of me to be involved with rubber-stamping Gurdjieff-dancing without a decent dollop of Osho-infused merry-making.&#8221;(Prem Martyn)</p>
<p>Dear You, </p>
<p>Thank you for your report here, Prem Martyn, I also take it &#8220;without a decent dollop&#8221; and wish you very well, to integrate all you´ve experienced.</p>
<p>Enjoyed very much to hear about the garden and that a few seeds grew up to fabulous flowers. Amiyo and her work is one of them.</p>
<p>And you are so right, declaring: &#8220;Sometimes it’s essential to be reading from the same page, when sharing moments.&#8221;</p>
<p>Btw, Gurdijeff left with his beloveds about six children&#8230;round about, and who knows? It just happened.</p>
<p>With love,</p>
<p>Madhu</p>
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