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		<title>By: anand yogi</title>
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		<dc:creator>anand yogi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2016 14:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perfectly correct, Shantambhai!
As you make clear,it will take centuries to accept that an ordinary disciple like you has more gravity in his words than most of your spiritual teachers combined together. Indeed, it may never happen at all!

But do not become too consumed by your own hubris, Bhai, and remember your heritage! As Narendra Modi, Zorba the Buddha recently proclaimed: along with air travel, space travel, plastic surgery, stem-cell genetics, public toilets and knob-gags, it was the rishis, yogis and Vedic scientists of ancient Bhorat who discovered rimming, analingus and BDSM!
 
And long before Einstein and Stephen Hawkings they had already discovered and conducted in-depth investigations into black holes!

The  master/disciple relationship was a perfect setting for it with masters using all devices to get into states of ecstasy, ranging from carrot to stick! 

Of course, fervent licking of ass remains an integral factor of  religions, even religionless ones even today!

But it is certainly tragic that one who spent 2 decades practising this meditation with utter devotion and reaching the dizzying spiritual heights of &#039;Hindi-typist with benefits&#039; has ended up in queue at gora dole office with devotional tongue, like other vital organs, hanging permanently unemployed, like owner!

Hari Om !
Yahoo!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfectly correct, Shantambhai!<br />
As you make clear,it will take centuries to accept that an ordinary disciple like you has more gravity in his words than most of your spiritual teachers combined together. Indeed, it may never happen at all!</p>
<p>But do not become too consumed by your own hubris, Bhai, and remember your heritage! As Narendra Modi, Zorba the Buddha recently proclaimed: along with air travel, space travel, plastic surgery, stem-cell genetics, public toilets and knob-gags, it was the rishis, yogis and Vedic scientists of ancient Bhorat who discovered rimming, analingus and BDSM!</p>
<p>And long before Einstein and Stephen Hawkings they had already discovered and conducted in-depth investigations into black holes!</p>
<p>The  master/disciple relationship was a perfect setting for it with masters using all devices to get into states of ecstasy, ranging from carrot to stick! </p>
<p>Of course, fervent licking of ass remains an integral factor of  religions, even religionless ones even today!</p>
<p>But it is certainly tragic that one who spent 2 decades practising this meditation with utter devotion and reaching the dizzying spiritual heights of &#8216;Hindi-typist with benefits&#8217; has ended up in queue at gora dole office with devotional tongue, like other vital organs, hanging permanently unemployed, like owner!</p>
<p>Hari Om !<br />
Yahoo!</p>
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		<title>By: madhu dagmar frantzen</title>
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		<dc:creator>madhu dagmar frantzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2016 10:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I feel to add here another from the sips in cups of tea - for whomsoever has an empty cup...

A Cup of TeaWork — May 2016 
Love.

Then life is a play, and then even effort becomes play.


&quot;Poetry, philosophy, religion are the fruits of repose.
This has not been available to everyone
but technology and science will make it so
in the near future.
That is why I am in favour of technology.

Those who attribute intrinsic value to labour
oppose the use of machines – they have to.
For me, labour has no such intrinsic value:
on the contrary, I see it as a burden.
As long as work is a prerequisite for rest
it cannot be blissful.
When work flows out of a state of rest voluntarily
then it is blissful.
So I cannot call rest a sin.

Nor do I support sacrifice.
I do not want anyone to live for anybody else,
or one generation to sacrifice itself for another.
Such sacrifices turn out to be very costly –
those who make them expect an inhuman return.
This is why fathers expect the impossible
from their sons.
If each father lives for his son
who will live for himself?
For every son is a potential father.
No, I want everyone to live for himself –
for his own happiness, his own state of rest.

When a father is happy he does much more for his son –
and easily, because it comes out of his happiness.
Then there is neither sacrifice nor renunciation;
what he does comes naturally out of his being a father –
and a happy father at that.
Then he has no inhuman expectations of his son and
where there is no pressure from expectations,
expectations are fulfilled – out of the son being a son.

In short, I teach each person to be selfish.
Altruistic teachings have taught man nothing but suicide,
and a suicidal man is always homicidal;
the unhappy sow their sorrow amongst others.

I am also against the sacrifice of the present
for the future, because what is is always present;
if you live in it totally the future will be born out of it –
and when it comes it too will be the present.
For he who has the habit of sacrificing
the present for the future, the future never comes
because whatever comes is again always sacrificed
for that which has not yet come.

Finally, you ask why I too work for others
and for the future.
First of all, I do not work.
Whatever I do flows out of my state of rest.
I do not swim, I just float.
No one can ever do anything for another
but if something happens to others out of what I am,
that is something else,
and there too I am not the doer.

As for the future –
for me, the present is everything.
And the past too is also a present – that has passed away;
and the future too – that is a present that is yet to come.
Life is always here and now
so I do not bother about past and future.
And it is amazing that ever since I stopped
worrying about them they have begun to worry about me!

My regards to all there.&quot;

&#039;Cup Of Tea&#039; (75) 

Osholove]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel to add here another from the sips in cups of tea &#8211; for whomsoever has an empty cup&#8230;</p>
<p>A Cup of TeaWork — May 2016<br />
Love.</p>
<p>Then life is a play, and then even effort becomes play.</p>
<p>&#8220;Poetry, philosophy, religion are the fruits of repose.<br />
This has not been available to everyone<br />
but technology and science will make it so<br />
in the near future.<br />
That is why I am in favour of technology.</p>
<p>Those who attribute intrinsic value to labour<br />
oppose the use of machines – they have to.<br />
For me, labour has no such intrinsic value:<br />
on the contrary, I see it as a burden.<br />
As long as work is a prerequisite for rest<br />
it cannot be blissful.<br />
When work flows out of a state of rest voluntarily<br />
then it is blissful.<br />
So I cannot call rest a sin.</p>
<p>Nor do I support sacrifice.<br />
I do not want anyone to live for anybody else,<br />
or one generation to sacrifice itself for another.<br />
Such sacrifices turn out to be very costly –<br />
those who make them expect an inhuman return.<br />
This is why fathers expect the impossible<br />
from their sons.<br />
If each father lives for his son<br />
who will live for himself?<br />
For every son is a potential father.<br />
No, I want everyone to live for himself –<br />
for his own happiness, his own state of rest.</p>
<p>When a father is happy he does much more for his son –<br />
and easily, because it comes out of his happiness.<br />
Then there is neither sacrifice nor renunciation;<br />
what he does comes naturally out of his being a father –<br />
and a happy father at that.<br />
Then he has no inhuman expectations of his son and<br />
where there is no pressure from expectations,<br />
expectations are fulfilled – out of the son being a son.</p>
<p>In short, I teach each person to be selfish.<br />
Altruistic teachings have taught man nothing but suicide,<br />
and a suicidal man is always homicidal;<br />
the unhappy sow their sorrow amongst others.</p>
<p>I am also against the sacrifice of the present<br />
for the future, because what is is always present;<br />
if you live in it totally the future will be born out of it –<br />
and when it comes it too will be the present.<br />
For he who has the habit of sacrificing<br />
the present for the future, the future never comes<br />
because whatever comes is again always sacrificed<br />
for that which has not yet come.</p>
<p>Finally, you ask why I too work for others<br />
and for the future.<br />
First of all, I do not work.<br />
Whatever I do flows out of my state of rest.<br />
I do not swim, I just float.<br />
No one can ever do anything for another<br />
but if something happens to others out of what I am,<br />
that is something else,<br />
and there too I am not the doer.</p>
<p>As for the future –<br />
for me, the present is everything.<br />
And the past too is also a present – that has passed away;<br />
and the future too – that is a present that is yet to come.<br />
Life is always here and now<br />
so I do not bother about past and future.<br />
And it is amazing that ever since I stopped<br />
worrying about them they have begun to worry about me!</p>
<p>My regards to all there.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8216;Cup Of Tea&#8217; (75) </p>
<p>Osholove</p>
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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2016 06:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I have to use words. I am helpless. The day you will be able to understand silence there will be no
need for me to talk to you every day. We can sit in silence. And that will be a beautiful day – I am
preparing you for that. Even though I use words I use them against words – I use them in such a
way so that they can commit suicide in you. That’s why I have to be contradictory. 

That’s why I say one thing this moment and contradict it immediately – so that no word takes root in you. So slowly slowly you start understanding that words are meaningless, their meaning is a pretension. Then there will be no misunderstanding.&quot;

Osho.

&#039;This Very Body the Buddha&#039;

CH. 5. &#039;The flight towards the sun&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I have to use words. I am helpless. The day you will be able to understand silence there will be no<br />
need for me to talk to you every day. We can sit in silence. And that will be a beautiful day – I am<br />
preparing you for that. Even though I use words I use them against words – I use them in such a<br />
way so that they can commit suicide in you. That’s why I have to be contradictory. </p>
<p>That’s why I say one thing this moment and contradict it immediately – so that no word takes root in you. So slowly slowly you start understanding that words are meaningless, their meaning is a pretension. Then there will be no misunderstanding.&#8221;</p>
<p>Osho.</p>
<p>&#8216;This Very Body the Buddha&#8217;</p>
<p>CH. 5. &#8216;The flight towards the sun&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
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		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2016 20:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Shantam is fighting over words that come from nowhere else but his own grotesque self-importance, which is why he has no credibility....&quot;

This is an interesting religious point from Arpana. About my self-importance thing I don´t take him seriously. He is like radical Muslims who hate from their guts the reformist types. Fortunately, he has no authority to issue Fatwa! 

It seems he means words spoken by Osho have come from Nowhere. Let us say each and every word spoken by Osho has come from Nowhere. Does it also mean everything he did also got sanctioned by Existence?

My impression of watching Sannyas clergy is that their Osho was entuned with Nowhere only when he was before the microphone, rest of the time he was Mr. Jain from Jabalpur. I mean, if you treat Osho that great as being entuned with Nature you would not dare to change the name of his creation from Osho Commune International to Osho International Meditation Resort. 

Simple fact is the thugs in Pune mention Osho in present tense but are sure, ashes are ashes, once someone has gone he has gone for ever, be it Buddha, Jesus or Osho. 

So there is an ugly control over the work of one man word factory. Thank God, no guru has ever got the capacity to create gold or nickle mines. Was it some prophet that created the vast reservoir of oil under the desert?

Just like Lokesh, I also wonder how a radical movement has ended in a pity battle over trademark and control over the few acres of Pune real estate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Shantam is fighting over words that come from nowhere else but his own grotesque self-importance, which is why he has no credibility&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is an interesting religious point from Arpana. About my self-importance thing I don´t take him seriously. He is like radical Muslims who hate from their guts the reformist types. Fortunately, he has no authority to issue Fatwa! </p>
<p>It seems he means words spoken by Osho have come from Nowhere. Let us say each and every word spoken by Osho has come from Nowhere. Does it also mean everything he did also got sanctioned by Existence?</p>
<p>My impression of watching Sannyas clergy is that their Osho was entuned with Nowhere only when he was before the microphone, rest of the time he was Mr. Jain from Jabalpur. I mean, if you treat Osho that great as being entuned with Nature you would not dare to change the name of his creation from Osho Commune International to Osho International Meditation Resort. </p>
<p>Simple fact is the thugs in Pune mention Osho in present tense but are sure, ashes are ashes, once someone has gone he has gone for ever, be it Buddha, Jesus or Osho. </p>
<p>So there is an ugly control over the work of one man word factory. Thank God, no guru has ever got the capacity to create gold or nickle mines. Was it some prophet that created the vast reservoir of oil under the desert?</p>
<p>Just like Lokesh, I also wonder how a radical movement has ended in a pity battle over trademark and control over the few acres of Pune real estate.</p>
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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5966#comment-74416</link>
		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2016 18:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shantam, unsurprisingly, in his element concerning this particular thread. What the thread does for me is shake my head and make me wonder how did such a radical movement turn into something that could be concerned with a trademark? 

&quot;Osho’s energy was and is a wild fire&quot; - Ehm...er...from where I stand I see a puff of smoke on the horizon. Or is it a white cloud? My eyesight is not what it was.

There are still plenty of Osho vids on Torrentz if you are interested. Quite remarkable the fuss over Osho&#039;s words, when he himself declared that his real message lay between his words. In other words, silence. You ask me, anyone overly concerned with Osho trademark needs a bit more meditation in their life. Best path to realizing none of this matters. A storm in a tea cup and the tea cup does not exist, let alone the storm.

&quot;The next step in the EU case is that OIF must file a reply, and then there will be an oral hearing before a panel of judges from the General Court.&quot; 
Gee whizz. Doubtless many will become enlightened if there is a positive judgement. Having said that, I have no idea what would constitute a positive ruling. Thank fuck for that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shantam, unsurprisingly, in his element concerning this particular thread. What the thread does for me is shake my head and make me wonder how did such a radical movement turn into something that could be concerned with a trademark? </p>
<p>&#8220;Osho’s energy was and is a wild fire&#8221; &#8211; Ehm&#8230;er&#8230;from where I stand I see a puff of smoke on the horizon. Or is it a white cloud? My eyesight is not what it was.</p>
<p>There are still plenty of Osho vids on Torrentz if you are interested. Quite remarkable the fuss over Osho&#8217;s words, when he himself declared that his real message lay between his words. In other words, silence. You ask me, anyone overly concerned with Osho trademark needs a bit more meditation in their life. Best path to realizing none of this matters. A storm in a tea cup and the tea cup does not exist, let alone the storm.</p>
<p>&#8220;The next step in the EU case is that OIF must file a reply, and then there will be an oral hearing before a panel of judges from the General Court.&#8221;<br />
Gee whizz. Doubtless many will become enlightened if there is a positive judgement. Having said that, I have no idea what would constitute a positive ruling. Thank fuck for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2016 17:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure. You don&#039;t need to pay me as much as last time. Happy to oblige.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure. You don&#8217;t need to pay me as much as last time. Happy to oblige.</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5966#comment-74414</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2016 17:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cheers, Arps.

(Btw, I&#039;ve lost your bank details - could you send them on, please. Thanks).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers, Arps.</p>
<p>(Btw, I&#8217;ve lost your bank details &#8211; could you send them on, please. Thanks).</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
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		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2016 17:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;It will take you centuries to accept an ordinary disciple like me has more gravity in his words than most of your spiritual teachers combined together.&quot;

A crystal clear case of delusions of grandeur and possibly the most preposterously arrogant statement ever put out by this prize clown.

(Btw, Shants, &quot;eternities&quot; would be a far more appropriate word than &quot;centuries&quot;!).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It will take you centuries to accept an ordinary disciple like me has more gravity in his words than most of your spiritual teachers combined together.&#8221;</p>
<p>A crystal clear case of delusions of grandeur and possibly the most preposterously arrogant statement ever put out by this prize clown.</p>
<p>(Btw, Shants, &#8220;eternities&#8221; would be a far more appropriate word than &#8220;centuries&#8221;!).</p>
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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2016 16:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shantam.

If Satya Deva doesn&#039;t evolve for a million lives, you will never reach his level. 

You are a typical know-it-all adolescent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shantam.</p>
<p>If Satya Deva doesn&#8217;t evolve for a million lives, you will never reach his level. </p>
<p>You are a typical know-it-all adolescent.</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
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		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2016 15:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Shanti.

It is well written article. I think nothing better is written about this elusive chairman of us during last 17, 18 years. 

Based on my personal view on him, Jayesh is a perfect gentleman, also Amrito. I simply cannot understand their weird attitude regarding Osho´s legacy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Shanti.</p>
<p>It is well written article. I think nothing better is written about this elusive chairman of us during last 17, 18 years. </p>
<p>Based on my personal view on him, Jayesh is a perfect gentleman, also Amrito. I simply cannot understand their weird attitude regarding Osho´s legacy.</p>
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