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		<title>By: Chinmaya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chinmaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 14:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Satya Deva</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/588#comment-13080</link>
		<dc:creator>Satya Deva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 11:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[frank:

in old india,a disciple who was a carbon copy of his master was looked upon highly.
in fact,remember old teertha?
he boasted that he had only read osho books for years and had the hair and beard to go with it………
okay,the large protrusion jutting out from the middle of his robe was a giveaway,but there was a strong lookalike element…..
and nobody called him a third rate impressionist at the time…..



SD:
Maybe, frank...But look where Teertha&#039;s at now! Must be the most disliked, disrespected member of the entire pantheon of Osho&#039;s former &#039;high-rollers&#039;...Among sannyasins, that is...

Took a while for everyone to grow up, I guess.

Perhaps rajneesh will meet a similar fate amongst his Indian fans...Wouldn&#039;t necessarily bet against it....and yet...

If it&#039;s true that carbon copies of the Master were revered in &quot;old India&quot;, and Indian sannyas people are desperate for, er, &#039;something&#039; (anything?!) I guess this rajneesh knows he&#039;s onto a good thing and so he might have a fair bit of mileage left. 

My God (sorry, frank!), is there any limit to human foolishness?!

Time for another green tea, I&#039;m feeling rather faint....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>frank:</p>
<p>in old india,a disciple who was a carbon copy of his master was looked upon highly.<br />
in fact,remember old teertha?<br />
he boasted that he had only read osho books for years and had the hair and beard to go with it………<br />
okay,the large protrusion jutting out from the middle of his robe was a giveaway,but there was a strong lookalike element…..<br />
and nobody called him a third rate impressionist at the time…..</p>
<p>SD:<br />
Maybe, frank&#8230;But look where Teertha&#8217;s at now! Must be the most disliked, disrespected member of the entire pantheon of Osho&#8217;s former &#8216;high-rollers&#8217;&#8230;Among sannyasins, that is&#8230;</p>
<p>Took a while for everyone to grow up, I guess.</p>
<p>Perhaps rajneesh will meet a similar fate amongst his Indian fans&#8230;Wouldn&#8217;t necessarily bet against it&#8230;.and yet&#8230;</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s true that carbon copies of the Master were revered in &#8220;old India&#8221;, and Indian sannyas people are desperate for, er, &#8216;something&#8217; (anything?!) I guess this rajneesh knows he&#8217;s onto a good thing and so he might have a fair bit of mileage left. </p>
<p>My God (sorry, frank!), is there any limit to human foolishness?!</p>
<p>Time for another green tea, I&#8217;m feeling rather faint&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/588#comment-13078</link>
		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 10:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[in old india,a disciple who was a carbon copy of his master was looked upon highly.
in fact,remember old teertha?
he boasted that he had only read osho books for years and had the hair and beard to go with it.........
okay,the large protrusion jutting out from the  middle of his robe was a giveaway,but there was a strong lookalike element.....
and nobody called him a third rate impressionist at the time.....

in any case,people will pay to see tribute bands,whether it is 
retro tull
think floyd
mamma mia
or
rajneesh too.

but i can sympathise with you,.
hating and slagging artists you dont like has always been a part of the  enlightentertainmant scene.

just like mods and rockers or 
arsenal versus tottenham.

enlightenment is just the same.....
its the oshoites rucking with krishnamurtites
barrylongers squaring up to bwronskinned gurus
or andrew cohen`s firm marching into papajis manor,ready to rumble.....


same same,baba....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in old india,a disciple who was a carbon copy of his master was looked upon highly.<br />
in fact,remember old teertha?<br />
he boasted that he had only read osho books for years and had the hair and beard to go with it&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
okay,the large protrusion jutting out from the  middle of his robe was a giveaway,but there was a strong lookalike element&#8230;..<br />
and nobody called him a third rate impressionist at the time&#8230;..</p>
<p>in any case,people will pay to see tribute bands,whether it is<br />
retro tull<br />
think floyd<br />
mamma mia<br />
or<br />
rajneesh too.</p>
<p>but i can sympathise with you,.<br />
hating and slagging artists you dont like has always been a part of the  enlightentertainmant scene.</p>
<p>just like mods and rockers or<br />
arsenal versus tottenham.</p>
<p>enlightenment is just the same&#8230;..<br />
its the oshoites rucking with krishnamurtites<br />
barrylongers squaring up to bwronskinned gurus<br />
or andrew cohen`s firm marching into papajis manor,ready to rumble&#8230;..</p>
<p>same same,baba&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Satya Deva</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/588#comment-13060</link>
		<dc:creator>Satya Deva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frank:
but,i dont agree about these characters being “frauds.”
to judge fraudulence,there has to be a consensus about the genuine item.
it doesnt happen.


SD:
Ok, it&#039;s all subjective (what else could it possibly be?!)...

But when you have a virtual carbon-copy of the &#039;real deal&#039;, as rajneesh has made himself, then &#039;fraud&#039;, &#039;deluded&#039; and &#039;stupid&#039; are three words that instantly come to the mind of  anyone with a vestige of common sense, let alone &#039;spiritual discrimination&#039;.

Surely?!!

If they were ever into it, &#039;Private Eye&#039; (British satirical mag.) would have an absolute field day on this character....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank:<br />
but,i dont agree about these characters being “frauds.”<br />
to judge fraudulence,there has to be a consensus about the genuine item.<br />
it doesnt happen.</p>
<p>SD:<br />
Ok, it&#8217;s all subjective (what else could it possibly be?!)&#8230;</p>
<p>But when you have a virtual carbon-copy of the &#8216;real deal&#8217;, as rajneesh has made himself, then &#8216;fraud&#8217;, &#8216;deluded&#8217; and &#8216;stupid&#8217; are three words that instantly come to the mind of  anyone with a vestige of common sense, let alone &#8216;spiritual discrimination&#8217;.</p>
<p>Surely?!!</p>
<p>If they were ever into it, &#8216;Private Eye&#8217; (British satirical mag.) would have an absolute field day on this character&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Satya Deva</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/588#comment-13028</link>
		<dc:creator>Satya Deva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 19:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Won&#039;t necessarily argue with that thoroughly irreverent insight, frank...

Danger of using it as a &#039;defence mechanism&#039;, of course...

Don;t reckon you&#039;re one of Life&#039;s natural devotees though somehow....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Won&#8217;t necessarily argue with that thoroughly irreverent insight, frank&#8230;</p>
<p>Danger of using it as a &#8216;defence mechanism&#8217;, of course&#8230;</p>
<p>Don;t reckon you&#8217;re one of Life&#8217;s natural devotees though somehow&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 17:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[maybe...
but those infinitely advanced and superior perception guys are no less entertaining than their lumpen spiritual proletariat brothers,
when they`ve got their trousers wrapped around their ankles with  total consciousness,and complete dis-identification
more so,i would say....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe&#8230;<br />
but those infinitely advanced and superior perception guys are no less entertaining than their lumpen spiritual proletariat brothers,<br />
when they`ve got their trousers wrapped around their ankles with  total consciousness,and complete dis-identification<br />
more so,i would say&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Satya Deva</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/588#comment-13020</link>
		<dc:creator>Satya Deva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, frank, that might sound how it is, but it ain&#039;t so for those of infinitely advanced and superior perception (not to mention consciousness, of course) - born of many thousands of hours dedicated to deeply (not shallow) meditative and other, &#039;supporting&#039; pursuits (damned of course, by the lamentably unconscious majority).

Such ones make a point of being completely aware - like your good self - of whatever games their minds are playing - golf, cricket , sex, alcoholic - and are therefore &#039;free&#039;.

Unlike the fools (for whom such a one is profoundly compassionate, of course, that comes with all the meditation) who are unfortunately completely &#039;identified&#039; with whatever occupies their (necessarily rather limited) attention spans at any given moment.

Still, I guess it&#039;s all karma, of course...

Guess I, you and others here, must have worked pretty hard in our previous lves to have such an advantage, compared to the rest of the unfortunates. Guess it&#039;s simply &#039;our time&#039;....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, frank, that might sound how it is, but it ain&#8217;t so for those of infinitely advanced and superior perception (not to mention consciousness, of course) &#8211; born of many thousands of hours dedicated to deeply (not shallow) meditative and other, &#8216;supporting&#8217; pursuits (damned of course, by the lamentably unconscious majority).</p>
<p>Such ones make a point of being completely aware &#8211; like your good self &#8211; of whatever games their minds are playing &#8211; golf, cricket , sex, alcoholic &#8211; and are therefore &#8216;free&#8217;.</p>
<p>Unlike the fools (for whom such a one is profoundly compassionate, of course, that comes with all the meditation) who are unfortunately completely &#8216;identified&#8217; with whatever occupies their (necessarily rather limited) attention spans at any given moment.</p>
<p>Still, I guess it&#8217;s all karma, of course&#8230;</p>
<p>Guess I, you and others here, must have worked pretty hard in our previous lves to have such an advantage, compared to the rest of the unfortunates. Guess it&#8217;s simply &#8216;our time&#8217;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[footie.
its all just what the romans called panem et circenses--bread and circus to placate and occupy the  plebs,the masses.
then you get the &quot;masters&quot; who try to point out this collective hypnosis,but they and/or their followers get caught in another collective hallucination of being the chosen few,which is,in fact contingent and dependent on the previous hypnotic trance...
checkmate.

then they are forced,deliberately,or otherwise,to give it the old &quot;i`m just an ordinary guy&quot;  schtick and go to cricket games,golf courses,their disciples bedrooms,the off-license,whatever,just to try and re-balance  the whole game again.

&quot;that`s enlightentertainment&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>footie.<br />
its all just what the romans called panem et circenses&#8211;bread and circus to placate and occupy the  plebs,the masses.<br />
then you get the &#8220;masters&#8221; who try to point out this collective hypnosis,but they and/or their followers get caught in another collective hallucination of being the chosen few,which is,in fact contingent and dependent on the previous hypnotic trance&#8230;<br />
checkmate.</p>
<p>then they are forced,deliberately,or otherwise,to give it the old &#8220;i`m just an ordinary guy&#8221;  schtick and go to cricket games,golf courses,their disciples bedrooms,the off-license,whatever,just to try and re-balance  the whole game again.</p>
<p>&#8220;that`s enlightentertainment&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[if lady gaga had been born in south india instead of new york,she would have been known as gagaji by now,discoursing on the pitfalls of love games and bad romance. 

and if nityananda had been born in new york,he could have been onstage at glastonbury,having as many groupies as he likes,and making his own home movies of him cavorting with tamil and american actresses and selling them on the net!

but,i dont agree about these characters being &quot;frauds.&quot;
to judge fraudulence,there has to be a consensus about the  genuine item.
it doesnt happen.
in entertainment or  music,people just do their act.
you like it,or you dont buy it.. simple.
do you think that chinese music is a &quot;fraud&quot; because it sounds like a bunch of cats being strangled?
and boy bands and lady gaga are shite,you think,but can there be stuff you like without there being shite,too?
i doubt it.
its a bit f the old black/white,yin/yang mullarkey going on,i would say.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if lady gaga had been born in south india instead of new york,she would have been known as gagaji by now,discoursing on the pitfalls of love games and bad romance. </p>
<p>and if nityananda had been born in new york,he could have been onstage at glastonbury,having as many groupies as he likes,and making his own home movies of him cavorting with tamil and american actresses and selling them on the net!</p>
<p>but,i dont agree about these characters being &#8220;frauds.&#8221;<br />
to judge fraudulence,there has to be a consensus about the  genuine item.<br />
it doesnt happen.<br />
in entertainment or  music,people just do their act.<br />
you like it,or you dont buy it.. simple.<br />
do you think that chinese music is a &#8220;fraud&#8221; because it sounds like a bunch of cats being strangled?<br />
and boy bands and lady gaga are shite,you think,but can there be stuff you like without there being shite,too?<br />
i doubt it.<br />
its a bit f the old black/white,yin/yang mullarkey going on,i would say.</p>
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		<title>By: Satya Deva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Satya Deva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thing about going for the highs and lows is surely not to complain about the lows? (German manager&#039;s name is Low, of course!!).

But that seems too much for football fans to grasp. 

As Dylan sang:
&quot;You shouldn&#039;t let other people get your kicks for you....&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thing about going for the highs and lows is surely not to complain about the lows? (German manager&#8217;s name is Low, of course!!).</p>
<p>But that seems too much for football fans to grasp. </p>
<p>As Dylan sang:<br />
&#8220;You shouldn&#8217;t let other people get your kicks for you&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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