http://o-meditation.com/2011/03/17/flowering-awakening-self-realization-and-enlightenment-osho/

Must be all of 20 years or more since I saw you once in England’s Lane, and then of course many more years when you were Prem Sagar and we lived in the same flat in Chalk Farm!

I think it is worth considering that unenlightened people might ‘push’ one, even more than enlightened ones, to the borders of explosion…assuming you agree that at least a few people were or are enlightened!

Cohen claimed, “You do what I say and I will lead you to enlightenment.”

Who would have believed that this was a complete, total, unmitigated lie?”

But according to Andrew Cohen, his master Poppaji (sorry, Papaji) had told Andrew that he was enlightened, and sent him away from him – so I don`t really think that Andrew is to blame for believing that he was enlightened.

He may have been enlightened, who I am to judge without any experience.
By the time Papaji started blasting him for teaching, it was too late, Andrew had already set himself up as a teacher.

And many of the people giving satsang in the 90s had been ‘popped’ by Papaji, that it has become almost like a certificate: ‘Been to Papaji’.

The problem , in Pappaji’s eyes at least , seems to be that Papaji had ‘popped’ them out, and sent them away too early.

This contrasts sharply with Osho, who I remember once chastised someone whom he had declared enlightened, in Bombay, for leaving prematurely. “Enlightenment is just the beginning”, he said.

“Cohen never led anyone to enlightenment, and after experiencing an answer to Ramana Maharshi’s famous question, “Who am I?” I can see that Cohen is no more enlightened than George Bush or Vladimir Putin. But he is much more arrogant, egotistical and bad-tempered than George Bush.”

But how do we know that Andrew Cohen never led anyone to enlightenment? There are reports that he helped people to get out of their minds.

I remember the story of Marpa, who had an unenlightened master. He had great trust in the master and when the master told him to jump off a cliff, Marpa just jumped.

The master was not really expecting Marpa to jump, he became worried.

But Marpa was laughing. Apparently, Marpa`s trust was so great that he got enlightened, even with an unenlightened master.

Have you come across any teacher you regard as trustworthy, worth the time?

Cohen claimed, “You do what I say and I will lead you to enlightenment.”

Who would have believed that this was a complete, total, unmitigated lie?

Cohen never led anyone to enlightenment, and after experiencing an answer to Ramana Maharshi’s famous question, “Who am I?” I can see that Cohen is no more enlightened than George Bush or Vladimir Putin. But he is much more arrogant, egotistical and bad-tempered than George Bush.

Most religious leaders, and that includes Eastern-styled religious leaders, are charlatans who defraud their disciples and, whenever possible, manipulate them into giving huge amounts of money.

Ordinary confidence men who claim to be sharing get-rich-quick schemes are pretty repulsive, but spiritual confidence men who claim to be leading the way to Enlightenment and Bliss are much more repulsive.

Well, in this case, for me now I do understand that it is an intrinsic nature of being at the helm of an institution that it is probably difficult to distinguish between oneself & the institution, at times. This I see very closely, my mother is the chairperson of our housing society & I keep pointing this out to her as well. Even though she gets the point in that moment, she does miss at times.

I am sure we all can’t be aware all the time – human nature, isn’t it?

This is such dishonest humbug, Shantam, although you’re probably too dense to realise it.

You wrote, “Question is, Kavita, who has posted the video, lives around half mile away from the beer bar of Osho Resort. Why not she goes one evening and checks how many pegs are gulped down by the top brass and how many packs of cigis are left empty?”

So no judgment implied about the people concerned, the “top brass”? Wake up, ffs!