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		<title>By: Kapil</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5566#comment-71917</link>
		<dc:creator>Kapil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2015 04:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How beautifully you write, Madhu! Just like honey! And it is so deep, so subtle, so graceful! Being a student and teacher of language, I simply love it. Your words and silence are equally absorbing. 

Going back on the mundane plane, may I know where you belong to? Geographically!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How beautifully you write, Madhu! Just like honey! And it is so deep, so subtle, so graceful! Being a student and teacher of language, I simply love it. Your words and silence are equally absorbing. </p>
<p>Going back on the mundane plane, may I know where you belong to? Geographically!</p>
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		<title>By: madhu dagmar frantzen</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5566#comment-71906</link>
		<dc:creator>madhu dagmar frantzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2015 17:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Him&quot; didn´t make &quot;planless plans&quot; as you said.

Bliss - coming and going more like a breeze - not to be caught hold of! (Otherwise - when not learning to practise this you surely at the same time ´booked your ticket for hell&#039;, &#039;normal&#039; yo-yo bungee jumps from peaks to valleys; that&#039;s how the grasping mind works).

It&#039;s also your grasping mind that wants to know if I have been sitting in His Presence. YES, I did. But nothing I could say (and your question shows that) that YOU could get out of that.

Your practising to be ´a watcher on the hill`, 
YOUR tears, when you come to an understanding of the Silence in His words (as you told us the other day), 
YOUR laughter, when you come to understand a joke He made.
And it&#039;s YOUR unique way to the Silence, ever-present.

You will become acquainted with it, its gems and gifts for you and you only. A refuge too. And it is very good to look for a place and fellow-travellers to practise to listen to the Silence and to Existence and to bow down to an Enlightened one, if that - by grace - is happening.

No plan can be made about it, also no planless plan.

Very much I loved when He said: &quot;Don´t push the river.&quot; In fact, you are IN IT (the river) already, Kapil. And it&#039;s good to look for places and spaces which support your acknowledging that Truth. And letting that BE your best company (companion). And that will happen too quite naturally.

Madhu

P.S:
ZEN, I heard, is a Beginner´s mind; ALWAYS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Him&#8221; didn´t make &#8220;planless plans&#8221; as you said.</p>
<p>Bliss &#8211; coming and going more like a breeze &#8211; not to be caught hold of! (Otherwise &#8211; when not learning to practise this you surely at the same time ´booked your ticket for hell&#8217;, &#8216;normal&#8217; yo-yo bungee jumps from peaks to valleys; that&#8217;s how the grasping mind works).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also your grasping mind that wants to know if I have been sitting in His Presence. YES, I did. But nothing I could say (and your question shows that) that YOU could get out of that.</p>
<p>Your practising to be ´a watcher on the hill`,<br />
YOUR tears, when you come to an understanding of the Silence in His words (as you told us the other day),<br />
YOUR laughter, when you come to understand a joke He made.<br />
And it&#8217;s YOUR unique way to the Silence, ever-present.</p>
<p>You will become acquainted with it, its gems and gifts for you and you only. A refuge too. And it is very good to look for a place and fellow-travellers to practise to listen to the Silence and to Existence and to bow down to an Enlightened one, if that &#8211; by grace &#8211; is happening.</p>
<p>No plan can be made about it, also no planless plan.</p>
<p>Very much I loved when He said: &#8220;Don´t push the river.&#8221; In fact, you are IN IT (the river) already, Kapil. And it&#8217;s good to look for places and spaces which support your acknowledging that Truth. And letting that BE your best company (companion). And that will happen too quite naturally.</p>
<p>Madhu</p>
<p>P.S:<br />
ZEN, I heard, is a Beginner´s mind; ALWAYS.</p>
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		<title>By: Kavita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kavita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2015 12:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After I read your 16 December, 2015, 9:17 am comment, &#039;frankly&#039;, seems you are a quick learner!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After I read your 16 December, 2015, 9:17 am comment, &#8216;frankly&#8217;, seems you are a quick learner!</p>
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		<title>By: Kavita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kavita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2015 11:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Kapil, for being honest. 

I too am in the same the same boat as you, I have not seen Osho in his body, I came to his commune in Pune in 1992.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Kapil, for being honest. </p>
<p>I too am in the same the same boat as you, I have not seen Osho in his body, I came to his commune in Pune in 1992.</p>
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		<title>By: Kapil</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5566#comment-71894</link>
		<dc:creator>Kapil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2015 09:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Beloved has taught Existence is paradoxical. So he makes planless plan such like your &quot;gorgeous spacious spaciousless moments.&quot;

True, Madhu; what can be said of the bliss flowing from Him always?! By the way, I was wondering if you met Him in person. I missed out on it. I was just ten when He left the body. If you have spent some time with Him, could you share how it feels being near Him? I shared my longing to hear about Him with Kavita also.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beloved has taught Existence is paradoxical. So he makes planless plan such like your &#8220;gorgeous spacious spaciousless moments.&#8221;</p>
<p>True, Madhu; what can be said of the bliss flowing from Him always?! By the way, I was wondering if you met Him in person. I missed out on it. I was just ten when He left the body. If you have spent some time with Him, could you share how it feels being near Him? I shared my longing to hear about Him with Kavita also.</p>
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		<title>By: Kapil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kapil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2015 03:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;“Time is short. Drop everything that concerns others.” – Sir, does this also apply to you too?&quot;

 This is the only thing that matters to me now. 

Further, Kavita, I was wondering if you met Him in person. I missed out on it. I was just ten when He left the body. 

If you have spent some time with Him, could you share how it feels being near Him?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;“Time is short. Drop everything that concerns others.” – Sir, does this also apply to you too?&#8221;</p>
<p> This is the only thing that matters to me now. </p>
<p>Further, Kavita, I was wondering if you met Him in person. I missed out on it. I was just ten when He left the body. </p>
<p>If you have spent some time with Him, could you share how it feels being near Him?</p>
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		<title>By: madhu dagmar frantzen</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5566#comment-71870</link>
		<dc:creator>madhu dagmar frantzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2015 11:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Gradually, something began to dawn upon me: everybody would meet Him the way Existence plans.&quot;

And thank you so much for appearing with this, Kapil; and won´t quote other lines of your response - worth repeating.

If Existence &quot;plans&quot;, I don´t know. Yet these gorgeous spacious spaciousless moments, when any arguing in inner and outer chatter stops. In a Peace Train. For the time being...

Loving what IS, not in an Himalayan cave, but in the midst of all our inter-connectedness.

We are, I feel, all of us, asked to develop that compassion you spoke about in your P.S. - nobody will spare us from this effort,  to go into  developing in ourselves the compassion which we may have experienced with the Master in what rightly is called a ´GREAT AFFAIR´, melting into the miracle of a Meeting altogether in this lifetime. In the body.

So much cannot be spoken.

However, it´s wonderful to give it a try.

With love,

Madhu]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Gradually, something began to dawn upon me: everybody would meet Him the way Existence plans.&#8221;</p>
<p>And thank you so much for appearing with this, Kapil; and won´t quote other lines of your response &#8211; worth repeating.</p>
<p>If Existence &#8220;plans&#8221;, I don´t know. Yet these gorgeous spacious spaciousless moments, when any arguing in inner and outer chatter stops. In a Peace Train. For the time being&#8230;</p>
<p>Loving what IS, not in an Himalayan cave, but in the midst of all our inter-connectedness.</p>
<p>We are, I feel, all of us, asked to develop that compassion you spoke about in your P.S. &#8211; nobody will spare us from this effort,  to go into  developing in ourselves the compassion which we may have experienced with the Master in what rightly is called a ´GREAT AFFAIR´, melting into the miracle of a Meeting altogether in this lifetime. In the body.</p>
<p>So much cannot be spoken.</p>
<p>However, it´s wonderful to give it a try.</p>
<p>With love,</p>
<p>Madhu</p>
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		<title>By: Kavita</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5566#comment-71867</link>
		<dc:creator>Kavita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2015 11:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for responding/sharing, Kapil. I forgot to mention, if it&#039;s ok with you to share here. Anyway, seems it was ok. Hope you found what you were browsing for?! 

“Time is short. Drop everything that concerns others.” - Sir, does this also apply to you too?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for responding/sharing, Kapil. I forgot to mention, if it&#8217;s ok with you to share here. Anyway, seems it was ok. Hope you found what you were browsing for?! </p>
<p>“Time is short. Drop everything that concerns others.” &#8211; Sir, does this also apply to you too?</p>
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		<title>By: Kapil</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5566#comment-71865</link>
		<dc:creator>Kapil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2015 04:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Kavita,

I bumped into the Sannyasnews while browsing  some stuff on Vivek. And I was taken aback to see the hot discussion going on on her. चैन से सो रहा था ओड़े कफ़न मज़ार पर/ यहाँ भी सताने आ गए किसने पता बता दिया? (I was cozily sleeping in my grave, wrapped in the coffin/the tormentors have come here too! How did they find out this place?). 

It reminded me how my own journey with Beloved began. A professor of mine, His junior at Sagar University, had referred to Him several times, and I was simply charmed to hear about Him. Then I bought a book and read it. Just reading it, something was stirred inside. I used to be a hardcore religionist. Yet His words penetrated the thick conditioning. The whole mind melted away for a moment and I, as it were, woke up. Out of a deep sleep. Indeed, there was some pre-birth bonding with Beloved. 

As the journey continued, the flowers of love and meditation began to blossom all around. There were tough times too. Dark nights! When everything seemed lost. But He was there, ALWAYS! It needed real courage to live Him. The courage too came from Him only. 

In the course, I came across Sheela and Shiva episodes too. Felt fortunate I did not read about them before meeting Him. Otherwise they would have brainwashed my rational mind into a nasty doubter and arguer. And I would have rejected Him without even experiencing Him. 

I was a bit concerned for those who would see Him through Sheela and Shiva lenses. And of course these lenses are &#039;authentic&#039; because they were closely associated with Him. I had the similar feeling for SN also. 

Gradually, something began to dawn upon me: everybody would meet Him the way Existence plans. 

Just a few days ago, while listening to Him, I was dissolved in a tearful harmony with Him. The intense love for my beloved absorbed me so totally that I could clearly see the distance from my body. And as He has always said that the body thus will become vulnerable to diseases. So I am contracting some of them. 

Then for the first time it was revealed what a master does for the disciple. He remains in His body to stay in the world for our sake. I took 15 years to feel His grace, His overwhelming love. And lo! There is debate on democracy and autocracy when the Old Man is just asking to “keep quiet when I am working on your soul.”

Though I can never thank Him enough, one way to thank Him is to pour every single particle of my energy into knowing the Deathless. Through this mail, I want to remind those who care to know more about themselves than the world His words: “Time is short. Drop everything that concerns others.”

P.S: 
I must thank SN for staging this cock-fighting. It makes me marvel at His patience. With so much compassion did He deal with all this clamorous crowing!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kavita,</p>
<p>I bumped into the Sannyasnews while browsing  some stuff on Vivek. And I was taken aback to see the hot discussion going on on her. चैन से सो रहा था ओड़े कफ़न मज़ार पर/ यहाँ भी सताने आ गए किसने पता बता दिया? (I was cozily sleeping in my grave, wrapped in the coffin/the tormentors have come here too! How did they find out this place?). </p>
<p>It reminded me how my own journey with Beloved began. A professor of mine, His junior at Sagar University, had referred to Him several times, and I was simply charmed to hear about Him. Then I bought a book and read it. Just reading it, something was stirred inside. I used to be a hardcore religionist. Yet His words penetrated the thick conditioning. The whole mind melted away for a moment and I, as it were, woke up. Out of a deep sleep. Indeed, there was some pre-birth bonding with Beloved. </p>
<p>As the journey continued, the flowers of love and meditation began to blossom all around. There were tough times too. Dark nights! When everything seemed lost. But He was there, ALWAYS! It needed real courage to live Him. The courage too came from Him only. </p>
<p>In the course, I came across Sheela and Shiva episodes too. Felt fortunate I did not read about them before meeting Him. Otherwise they would have brainwashed my rational mind into a nasty doubter and arguer. And I would have rejected Him without even experiencing Him. </p>
<p>I was a bit concerned for those who would see Him through Sheela and Shiva lenses. And of course these lenses are &#8216;authentic&#8217; because they were closely associated with Him. I had the similar feeling for SN also. </p>
<p>Gradually, something began to dawn upon me: everybody would meet Him the way Existence plans. </p>
<p>Just a few days ago, while listening to Him, I was dissolved in a tearful harmony with Him. The intense love for my beloved absorbed me so totally that I could clearly see the distance from my body. And as He has always said that the body thus will become vulnerable to diseases. So I am contracting some of them. </p>
<p>Then for the first time it was revealed what a master does for the disciple. He remains in His body to stay in the world for our sake. I took 15 years to feel His grace, His overwhelming love. And lo! There is debate on democracy and autocracy when the Old Man is just asking to “keep quiet when I am working on your soul.”</p>
<p>Though I can never thank Him enough, one way to thank Him is to pour every single particle of my energy into knowing the Deathless. Through this mail, I want to remind those who care to know more about themselves than the world His words: “Time is short. Drop everything that concerns others.”</p>
<p>P.S:<br />
I must thank SN for staging this cock-fighting. It makes me marvel at His patience. With so much compassion did He deal with all this clamorous crowing!</p>
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		<title>By: Kavita</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5566#comment-71851</link>
		<dc:creator>Kavita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2015 11:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kapil, welcome to SN. Seems it&#039;s your first time writing-in here? &amp; is it possible for you to tell what exactly is &quot;Osho-fragrance&quot;? 

I am wondering if questioning could also be &quot;Osho-fragrance&quot; to you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kapil, welcome to SN. Seems it&#8217;s your first time writing-in here? &#038; is it possible for you to tell what exactly is &#8220;Osho-fragrance&#8221;? </p>
<p>I am wondering if questioning could also be &#8220;Osho-fragrance&#8221; to you?</p>
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