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		<title>By: satya deva</title>
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		<dc:creator>satya deva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 23:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is maybe not strictly relevant here, but it&#039;s occurred to me recently, while following this thread, so here goes anyway:

Having been in Poona a couple of months or so, and having either just begun , or being about to begin working as a book editor (&#039;The Mustard Seed&#039;), Osho agreed that I take up Maharishi&#039;s TM (so-called &#039;transcendental meditation&#039;)again (I&#039;d previously practised it for around 9 months, 5 or so years before).

That was despite him having already quite often decried this method as virtually useless, as not &#039;true&#039; meditation at all.

That&#039;s just one, very small, but I think, telling example of how flexible he was, always looking into what a person actually might need, rather than rigidly keeping to a set of practises outside which one might stray &#039;at one&#039;s peril&#039;!

My feeling is it&#039;s just foolish and untrue to try to put such a man &#039;in a box&#039;, he was/is far too vast for such mind-made limitation.

Ultimately, the individual and his/her freedom - and personal responsibility - is important, more important than any collective or community. 

Any collective/community - or indeed, any individual - needs to accept this, which was surely one of the lessons of Rajneeshpuram.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is maybe not strictly relevant here, but it&#8217;s occurred to me recently, while following this thread, so here goes anyway:</p>
<p>Having been in Poona a couple of months or so, and having either just begun , or being about to begin working as a book editor (&#8216;The Mustard Seed&#8217;), Osho agreed that I take up Maharishi&#8217;s TM (so-called &#8216;transcendental meditation&#8217;)again (I&#8217;d previously practised it for around 9 months, 5 or so years before).</p>
<p>That was despite him having already quite often decried this method as virtually useless, as not &#8216;true&#8217; meditation at all.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just one, very small, but I think, telling example of how flexible he was, always looking into what a person actually might need, rather than rigidly keeping to a set of practises outside which one might stray &#8216;at one&#8217;s peril&#8217;!</p>
<p>My feeling is it&#8217;s just foolish and untrue to try to put such a man &#8216;in a box&#8217;, he was/is far too vast for such mind-made limitation.</p>
<p>Ultimately, the individual and his/her freedom &#8211; and personal responsibility &#8211; is important, more important than any collective or community. </p>
<p>Any collective/community &#8211; or indeed, any individual &#8211; needs to accept this, which was surely one of the lessons of Rajneeshpuram.</p>
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		<title>By: martyn</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 14:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[on the other hand they dont make me laugh.(he tries i must admit he&#039;s very tyring)...so its all a bit lost on one&#039;s (osho&#039;s) sense of the absurd.... and he really loves to tell people that he&#039;s (clouseau) not an extremist  which is a bit extreme really....

anarchos

osho was...or maybe he wasnt ...or maybe other people thought he was......do middle of the roaders get poisoned by evangelists ..I wonder.... 

The Apaches, the Sioux and the  Comanches welcome Obama&#039;s new &#039; immigrants will be arrested&#039;  law.They are waiting for everyone to leave by next week...he didnt strike a rightwing deal to get his medicare through by any chance did he?

As Malcom Mclaren manager of the sex pistols said last week just before he died, his last words were..  free Leonard Peltier...that&#039;s one for the flag arse kissers of US of A

me and swami clouseau might do better helping old sannyassins cross the street instead...as collaboration elsewhere is proving fickle to say the least

 and  talking about fickles....lets fick now and talk about it later

kisses]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on the other hand they dont make me laugh.(he tries i must admit he&#8217;s very tyring)&#8230;so its all a bit lost on one&#8217;s (osho&#8217;s) sense of the absurd&#8230;. and he really loves to tell people that he&#8217;s (clouseau) not an extremist  which is a bit extreme really&#8230;.</p>
<p>anarchos</p>
<p>osho was&#8230;or maybe he wasnt &#8230;or maybe other people thought he was&#8230;&#8230;do middle of the roaders get poisoned by evangelists ..I wonder&#8230;. </p>
<p>The Apaches, the Sioux and the  Comanches welcome Obama&#8217;s new &#8216; immigrants will be arrested&#8217;  law.They are waiting for everyone to leave by next week&#8230;he didnt strike a rightwing deal to get his medicare through by any chance did he?</p>
<p>As Malcom Mclaren manager of the sex pistols said last week just before he died, his last words were..  free Leonard Peltier&#8230;that&#8217;s one for the flag arse kissers of US of A</p>
<p>me and swami clouseau might do better helping old sannyassins cross the street instead&#8230;as collaboration elsewhere is proving fickle to say the least</p>
<p> and  talking about fickles&#8230;.lets fick now and talk about it later</p>
<p>kisses</p>
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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 08:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kranti you asked, is it possible to share with us how experienced this.. have read osho himself saying similar things

Yes, it is possible and easy to explain. I simply looked and saw this. It was obvious. I think anyone who spent  some time around Osho could not have failed to observe this unless they needed specs. There was nothing escoteric about this phenomena it was plain to see. As far as the experiencing side of it goes I can only speak for myself. It made me feel humble because there was something deeply sad about it for me. It made me see the pain of the master trying to wake people up. I am sure Osho probably talked about this but the most moving account of the master&#039;s plight that I have ever heard came from H W Poonja.
I was listening to him read a long-winded letter from a seeker in California. It seemed endless and boring. Then Mr Poonja took of his glasses and explained the agony a master sometimes feels when confrontered with the sleep of ignorance in his disciples. There were tears in his eyes as he spoke. The tidal wave of love vibes that rolled over the satsang that morning almost succeeded in knocking me over, no easy feat as I am a big stubborn Scotsman. Once again that amazing old man had succeeeded in bowling me over with an aspect of life that I had never really contemplated. Like watching Osho it was a humbling experience.

I think Martyn is asking if Osho was a babe magnet. Of course he was. Cowgirls get the blues and babes sometimes get lost in the woods and yes, once in the while, babes get the call to awaken to the enlightened condition.

PS Does Swami Detective have a fan club? I must confess and tell you I am knocked out by some of his comments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kranti you asked, is it possible to share with us how experienced this.. have read osho himself saying similar things</p>
<p>Yes, it is possible and easy to explain. I simply looked and saw this. It was obvious. I think anyone who spent  some time around Osho could not have failed to observe this unless they needed specs. There was nothing escoteric about this phenomena it was plain to see. As far as the experiencing side of it goes I can only speak for myself. It made me feel humble because there was something deeply sad about it for me. It made me see the pain of the master trying to wake people up. I am sure Osho probably talked about this but the most moving account of the master&#8217;s plight that I have ever heard came from H W Poonja.<br />
I was listening to him read a long-winded letter from a seeker in California. It seemed endless and boring. Then Mr Poonja took of his glasses and explained the agony a master sometimes feels when confrontered with the sleep of ignorance in his disciples. There were tears in his eyes as he spoke. The tidal wave of love vibes that rolled over the satsang that morning almost succeeded in knocking me over, no easy feat as I am a big stubborn Scotsman. Once again that amazing old man had succeeeded in bowling me over with an aspect of life that I had never really contemplated. Like watching Osho it was a humbling experience.</p>
<p>I think Martyn is asking if Osho was a babe magnet. Of course he was. Cowgirls get the blues and babes sometimes get lost in the woods and yes, once in the while, babes get the call to awaken to the enlightened condition.</p>
<p>PS Does Swami Detective have a fan club? I must confess and tell you I am knocked out by some of his comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Kranti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kranti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 03:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I’ve never met another person who was so out of the body while supposedly in one. I often watched Osho and marvelled at how his spirit seemed to be attached to the body by the finest of threads.&quot;

Lokesh is it possible toshare with us how experienced this.. have read osho himself saying similar things

&quot; Someone like him needed major distractions to keep him interested in the mundane goings on of this world. &quot;

This is even more interesting.. That may explain so many things aboput Osho&#039;s material side ( whatever was there )]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’ve never met another person who was so out of the body while supposedly in one. I often watched Osho and marvelled at how his spirit seemed to be attached to the body by the finest of threads.&#8221;</p>
<p>Lokesh is it possible toshare with us how experienced this.. have read osho himself saying similar things</p>
<p>&#8221; Someone like him needed major distractions to keep him interested in the mundane goings on of this world. &#8221;</p>
<p>This is even more interesting.. That may explain so many things aboput Osho&#8217;s material side ( whatever was there )</p>
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		<title>By: Swami Detective</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swami Detective</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 22:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kranti I will not go through the same old ground that others have done with respect to the debate about Osho supposedly gradually refining his art until in the end he achieved a Zen style perfection. If you have something new on the subject perhaps I will respond.

The notion of Inner-Circle secrecy as stipulated by Osho is an interesting one. It is of course quite convenient. The Inner-Circle operated for a time before Osho left the body. It would be interesting to hear how it functioned, and to hear from some original Inner-Circle members about this subject.

There is also a strange set of events surrounding Doc Amrito. On the eve of Osho leaving the body (or was it the next), Amrito said to everyone in White-Robe that the following evening he would go through the functioning of the Inner-Circle. Now tell me how that works. If the code of secrecy was so important such that twenty years on there is not a word, yet just after Osho left the body Amrito was of the view that it was actually not so secretive. What makes sense is that something transpired between the time of announcing that he would explain how the Inner-Circle functioned and the next evening. Amrito has still till today yet to explain how the Inner-Circle functions. What circumstances lead to his change of position? Ahh, it’s a secret. Good one!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kranti I will not go through the same old ground that others have done with respect to the debate about Osho supposedly gradually refining his art until in the end he achieved a Zen style perfection. If you have something new on the subject perhaps I will respond.</p>
<p>The notion of Inner-Circle secrecy as stipulated by Osho is an interesting one. It is of course quite convenient. The Inner-Circle operated for a time before Osho left the body. It would be interesting to hear how it functioned, and to hear from some original Inner-Circle members about this subject.</p>
<p>There is also a strange set of events surrounding Doc Amrito. On the eve of Osho leaving the body (or was it the next), Amrito said to everyone in White-Robe that the following evening he would go through the functioning of the Inner-Circle. Now tell me how that works. If the code of secrecy was so important such that twenty years on there is not a word, yet just after Osho left the body Amrito was of the view that it was actually not so secretive. What makes sense is that something transpired between the time of announcing that he would explain how the Inner-Circle functioned and the next evening. Amrito has still till today yet to explain how the Inner-Circle functions. What circumstances lead to his change of position? Ahh, it’s a secret. Good one!</p>
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		<title>By: martyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>martyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 21:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Viva Borat !..... better than any fucking spritual seeking bollox]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Viva Borat !&#8230;.. better than any fucking spritual seeking bollox</p>
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		<title>By: martyn</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/553#comment-11771</link>
		<dc:creator>martyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 21:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone who sponsors secret societies with their hierarchical structure and in built unaccountable arrogance development will get the same response .. even if they have light shining out  of their orifices... includes any and i mean any master or guru or therapist.... they get what they ask for.... I&#039;m happy with that...we all shit dont we....

and ....osho was pure delight...
 though that didnt  stop him from being an arsehole too in his estimations of our capacities....though &#039;he&#039; wasnt there so Im currently taking tickets for Blaming the Universe through him which is a bit difficult really
all of course... IMO..

and of course if you prefer animals..... Go VEGan !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who sponsors secret societies with their hierarchical structure and in built unaccountable arrogance development will get the same response .. even if they have light shining out  of their orifices&#8230; includes any and i mean any master or guru or therapist&#8230;. they get what they ask for&#8230;. I&#8217;m happy with that&#8230;we all shit dont we&#8230;.</p>
<p>and &#8230;.osho was pure delight&#8230;<br />
 though that didnt  stop him from being an arsehole too in his estimations of our capacities&#8230;.though &#8216;he&#8217; wasnt there so Im currently taking tickets for Blaming the Universe through him which is a bit difficult really<br />
all of course&#8230; IMO..</p>
<p>and of course if you prefer animals&#8230;.. Go VEGan !</p>
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		<title>By: martyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>martyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 21:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[clouseau...

if swami jayarse tells ma turaluraluiya that his ego is bigger than her ego then as a german she has to surrender....its all about equal and opposing forces.... when the arsehole meets the cocksucker....they deserve each other...

Now im turning this into a musical...hot on the heels of that anti fascist hit &#039; Springtime for Hitler&#039; .. Except this time I&#039;m calling it &#039;Tough Love- The Musical ...&#039;

But I suppose asa labelled &#039;extremist&#039;  I would say that wouldnt I.. which makes me a..... (one at a time please theres a queue)...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>clouseau&#8230;</p>
<p>if swami jayarse tells ma turaluraluiya that his ego is bigger than her ego then as a german she has to surrender&#8230;.its all about equal and opposing forces&#8230;. when the arsehole meets the cocksucker&#8230;.they deserve each other&#8230;</p>
<p>Now im turning this into a musical&#8230;hot on the heels of that anti fascist hit &#8216; Springtime for Hitler&#8217; .. Except this time I&#8217;m calling it &#8216;Tough Love- The Musical &#8230;&#8217;</p>
<p>But I suppose asa labelled &#8216;extremist&#8217;  I would say that wouldnt I.. which makes me a&#8230;.. (one at a time please theres a queue)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: martyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>martyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LOKESH

I have nothing to say

xcept 

is it a babe magnet...?

 :)

(I tend to ask everyone the same question)

Osho is it a ..etc etc...

Well then....Lokesh..is it ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOKESH</p>
<p>I have nothing to say</p>
<p>xcept </p>
<p>is it a babe magnet&#8230;?</p>
<p> <img src='http://sannyasnews.org/now/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(I tend to ask everyone the same question)</p>
<p>Osho is it a ..etc etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Well then&#8230;.Lokesh..is it ?</p>
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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 18:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really enjoyed all those responses to the Osho quote that I posted. I believe that quote came from a series of discourses called Sufis, people of the path. But don&#039;t quote me on it because It is not important. What is important is that Osho often spoke about such things and I think that people who want to feel comfortable with their Osho teddy just don&#039;t want to hear about it. 
It is rare for me to quote Osho. Even though he might go down in history as being the world&#039;s greatest spiritual chatterbox it was he himself who said time and again that his real message was in the space between the words and I for one know that he really meant it. 
Besides, even though there is an Osho quote on just about everything not all of his words are interesting. It is often a case of having to dig in the dirt to find the diamonds. As a writer who sometimes writes about spiritual matters it is rare for me to go to Osho for an enlightening quote because it takes too much time to find one. It is much simpler to pick up a copy of &#039;I Am That&#039; by Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj. because in my opinion it surpasses anything Osho ever did on a literary level.
Even though there are hundreds of books with Osho&#039;s name on them word&#039;s were a long way from what the man was about. Osho was about energy. Plain and simple. You can call it love you can call it this and you can call it that but really he was a channel for a light that shone from somewhere high above this world.
It seems to me quite remarkable how attached people have become to Osho&#039;s name and form, especially now that he has merged with that which is formless. I&#039;ve never met another person who was so out of the body while supposedly in one. I often watched Osho and marvelled at how his spirit seemed to be attached to the body by the finest of threads.
Whenever people ask me why Osho had all those Rolls Royces I reply that he had them because he enjoyed them. Someone like him needed major distractions to keep him interested in the mundane goings on of this world. I notice that a new thread has begun. Boy of boy, how things have changed since being a sanyassin meant celebrating existence. It used to be the politics of ecstasy. Now its plain old politics. Yawn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoyed all those responses to the Osho quote that I posted. I believe that quote came from a series of discourses called Sufis, people of the path. But don&#8217;t quote me on it because It is not important. What is important is that Osho often spoke about such things and I think that people who want to feel comfortable with their Osho teddy just don&#8217;t want to hear about it.<br />
It is rare for me to quote Osho. Even though he might go down in history as being the world&#8217;s greatest spiritual chatterbox it was he himself who said time and again that his real message was in the space between the words and I for one know that he really meant it.<br />
Besides, even though there is an Osho quote on just about everything not all of his words are interesting. It is often a case of having to dig in the dirt to find the diamonds. As a writer who sometimes writes about spiritual matters it is rare for me to go to Osho for an enlightening quote because it takes too much time to find one. It is much simpler to pick up a copy of &#8216;I Am That&#8217; by Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj. because in my opinion it surpasses anything Osho ever did on a literary level.<br />
Even though there are hundreds of books with Osho&#8217;s name on them word&#8217;s were a long way from what the man was about. Osho was about energy. Plain and simple. You can call it love you can call it this and you can call it that but really he was a channel for a light that shone from somewhere high above this world.<br />
It seems to me quite remarkable how attached people have become to Osho&#8217;s name and form, especially now that he has merged with that which is formless. I&#8217;ve never met another person who was so out of the body while supposedly in one. I often watched Osho and marvelled at how his spirit seemed to be attached to the body by the finest of threads.<br />
Whenever people ask me why Osho had all those Rolls Royces I reply that he had them because he enjoyed them. Someone like him needed major distractions to keep him interested in the mundane goings on of this world. I notice that a new thread has begun. Boy of boy, how things have changed since being a sanyassin meant celebrating existence. It used to be the politics of ecstasy. Now its plain old politics. Yawn.</p>
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