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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
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		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2015 11:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lokesh kind gets the right to question and scrutinize every act of omission and commission of Osho yet nobody should question, &quot;How you have managed your finances after spending years out of the socio-economic system?&quot; I am not asking as a taxation man but as a question of self-inquiry.

What is basically the agenda to be a seeker, one encounters tough questions. The way it has provoked your otherwise cool demeanour shows a weakest link in strong chain. Matter of the fact is, every single day I encounter this question in me. It is an open wound. 

Here I wish to mention about a dear friend, who left quite a promising law practice and future in politics, who now sustains himself on alms somewhere in Haridwar for the reason he has spent his best years in and around Osho commune. 

I mean, we all are paying the bill, quite often with deep contentment too. So it is a very valid point and worth a string: How Osho sannyasins are sustaining themselves post-Commune?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lokesh kind gets the right to question and scrutinize every act of omission and commission of Osho yet nobody should question, &#8220;How you have managed your finances after spending years out of the socio-economic system?&#8221; I am not asking as a taxation man but as a question of self-inquiry.</p>
<p>What is basically the agenda to be a seeker, one encounters tough questions. The way it has provoked your otherwise cool demeanour shows a weakest link in strong chain. Matter of the fact is, every single day I encounter this question in me. It is an open wound. </p>
<p>Here I wish to mention about a dear friend, who left quite a promising law practice and future in politics, who now sustains himself on alms somewhere in Haridwar for the reason he has spent his best years in and around Osho commune. </p>
<p>I mean, we all are paying the bill, quite often with deep contentment too. So it is a very valid point and worth a string: How Osho sannyasins are sustaining themselves post-Commune?</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5459#comment-70976</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2015 10:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So your claim, “Simple thing is, Lokesh, vast percentage of Swamis and Mas are engaged in earning money through crooked means or taking the benefit of other people´s work” was, as suspected, just a load of hot air, like so many of your baseless, unresearched assertions. You should get a job in the gutter press, Shantam, they readily employ the likes of you.

In the light of that, plus the fact you invariably avoid – or apparently hardly read – what for you are mindset-’threatening’ questions, well, you can take your question and stuff it up your backside. Karma, swami, karma!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So your claim, “Simple thing is, Lokesh, vast percentage of Swamis and Mas are engaged in earning money through crooked means or taking the benefit of other people´s work” was, as suspected, just a load of hot air, like so many of your baseless, unresearched assertions. You should get a job in the gutter press, Shantam, they readily employ the likes of you.</p>
<p>In the light of that, plus the fact you invariably avoid – or apparently hardly read – what for you are mindset-’threatening’ questions, well, you can take your question and stuff it up your backside. Karma, swami, karma!</p>
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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5459#comment-70975</link>
		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2015 08:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Once again, I repeat, Shantam, how people who write on this blog make a living is none of your business. In essence, you are a nosey parker. In general, the people who are interested in other people&#039;s business are the people who do not have any business of their own to take care of.

This forum is a public one. At its heart lies the possibility to discuss Osho and his work, not how his people make money. When Osho left for the West in 1981 he was very clear that he did not want his sannyasins sponging off the Social Security systems in Europe and America. Where does that leave you in the picture?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, I repeat, Shantam, how people who write on this blog make a living is none of your business. In essence, you are a nosey parker. In general, the people who are interested in other people&#8217;s business are the people who do not have any business of their own to take care of.</p>
<p>This forum is a public one. At its heart lies the possibility to discuss Osho and his work, not how his people make money. When Osho left for the West in 1981 he was very clear that he did not want his sannyasins sponging off the Social Security systems in Europe and America. Where does that leave you in the picture?</p>
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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2015 05:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another of your puerile attempts at manipulation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another of your puerile attempts at manipulation.</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
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		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2015 21:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I start from you, Satyadeva. What is your profession? Is your quality of life based on the money you earned through your work? 

Next ones are Frank and Arpana. Hope they will be honest enough to tell something about their job resume.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I start from you, Satyadeva. What is your profession? Is your quality of life based on the money you earned through your work? </p>
<p>Next ones are Frank and Arpana. Hope they will be honest enough to tell something about their job resume.</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5459#comment-70966</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2015 18:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Simple thing is, Lokesh, vast percentage of Swamis and Mas are engaged in earning money through crooked means or taking the benefit of other people´s work.&quot;

Oh, really? How many of this &quot;vast percentage&quot; have you interviewed then, Shantam? Where&#039;s the evidence, please? 

No, you&#039;re just trying, once again, to offload your own dissatisfaction, your own personal frustration, of &#039;failure&#039;, onto &#039;circunstances&#039;, created, but of course, by those nasty others - you know, the ones who are responsible for ruining your life, those people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Simple thing is, Lokesh, vast percentage of Swamis and Mas are engaged in earning money through crooked means or taking the benefit of other people´s work.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, really? How many of this &#8220;vast percentage&#8221; have you interviewed then, Shantam? Where&#8217;s the evidence, please? </p>
<p>No, you&#8217;re just trying, once again, to offload your own dissatisfaction, your own personal frustration, of &#8216;failure&#8217;, onto &#8216;circunstances&#8217;, created, but of course, by those nasty others &#8211; you know, the ones who are responsible for ruining your life, those people.</p>
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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2015 18:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So vivid is that description, Francis, methinks you must have been there.

Did you take him up on his offer? I think we should be told.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So vivid is that description, Francis, methinks you must have been there.</p>
<p>Did you take him up on his offer? I think we should be told.</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5459#comment-70964</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2015 18:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The point is, Shantam, as has been pointed out to you countless times here by a number of people, that you refuse to be responsible for your own situation, you insist on blaming others and external circumstances for your unhappiness. As such, you are the creator of your own suffering. 

Have you read and digested Parmartha&#039;s recent suggestion that you do a sannyas encounter group over there in Germany? 

Or, as one suspects, have you glossed over that one, relegating it to your internal Trash file, as you do to others that &#039;make you feel&#039; uncomfortable - especially those, like Parmartha&#039;s, that, if taken on board, might just threaten to undermine your irresponsible mind-set? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point is, Shantam, as has been pointed out to you countless times here by a number of people, that you refuse to be responsible for your own situation, you insist on blaming others and external circumstances for your unhappiness. As such, you are the creator of your own suffering. </p>
<p>Have you read and digested Parmartha&#8217;s recent suggestion that you do a sannyas encounter group over there in Germany? </p>
<p>Or, as one suspects, have you glossed over that one, relegating it to your internal Trash file, as you do to others that &#8216;make you feel&#8217; uncomfortable &#8211; especially those, like Parmartha&#8217;s, that, if taken on board, might just threaten to undermine your irresponsible mind-set? </p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2015 18:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kavita,
He`s got a thing about the vital organs of chief disciples. He spent 30 years thinking about Sheela&#039;s` tits and the last 10 years thinking about Jayesh`s balls.

But the most indelible disciple/organ related image on the poor lad&#039;s` fragile psyche comes from the time when he went along to an event advertised as &quot;Lord of the Full Moon Meditation&quot; in the Resort.

When he and a number of other serious devotees filed respectfully into the Samadhi they were amazed to be greeted with the sight of Amrito, who had clearly started early, waving a half-empty bottle of Bombay gin at them, then pulling up his robe, the chief disciple turned round and shook his shiny, milky white gluteals at them, shouting: &quot;I am the lord of the full moon,you losers, and if you think marble&#039;s`got energy, you should try kissing these babies!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kavita,<br />
He`s got a thing about the vital organs of chief disciples. He spent 30 years thinking about Sheela&#8217;s` tits and the last 10 years thinking about Jayesh`s balls.</p>
<p>But the most indelible disciple/organ related image on the poor lad&#8217;s` fragile psyche comes from the time when he went along to an event advertised as &#8220;Lord of the Full Moon Meditation&#8221; in the Resort.</p>
<p>When he and a number of other serious devotees filed respectfully into the Samadhi they were amazed to be greeted with the sight of Amrito, who had clearly started early, waving a half-empty bottle of Bombay gin at them, then pulling up his robe, the chief disciple turned round and shook his shiny, milky white gluteals at them, shouting: &#8220;I am the lord of the full moon,you losers, and if you think marble&#8217;s`got energy, you should try kissing these babies!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5459#comment-70962</link>
		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2015 17:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Simple thing is, Lokesh, vast percentage of Swamis and Mas are engaged in earning money through crooked means or taking the benefit of other people´s work.

Spiritual ponzi schemers people become when pass through distress situations. Thousands of people left their career and countries to follow a different dream. When it collapsed and people have to go back to the world once they despised, clever ways to earn money become tools of survival. 

It is nonsense to say, &quot;What business is yours?&quot; I am not pointing fingers towards some individual, but collective situation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simple thing is, Lokesh, vast percentage of Swamis and Mas are engaged in earning money through crooked means or taking the benefit of other people´s work.</p>
<p>Spiritual ponzi schemers people become when pass through distress situations. Thousands of people left their career and countries to follow a different dream. When it collapsed and people have to go back to the world once they despised, clever ways to earn money become tools of survival. </p>
<p>It is nonsense to say, &#8220;What business is yours?&#8221; I am not pointing fingers towards some individual, but collective situation.</p>
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