Comments on: What Osho Means to me Now : Part 2

By: frank

frank — Tue, 20 Oct 2015 09:37:30 +0000

Marty,
Yes, Osho’s support for Stalin’s` genocide “to save an idea and an experiment” was quite disturbing. And, even if taken as some sort of ‘device’, still, as you intimate, predicates pretty clearly the sort of behaviour one might expect from inheritors of his own experiment.

(I guess it also begs the question of whether a few Oregonians and homeless were acceptable collateral damage for the emergence of the ‘New Man’).

Btw, Yogi, Osho was a communist in his youth (see Pierre Evald, Osho’s librarian’s work for verification).

He went from teenage commie to presiding over a fascist dictatorship in later life.

It`s a surprisingly common route, if you have a quick glance thru the history of the 20th century.

By: frank

frank — Mon, 19 Oct 2015 21:30:57 +0000

A woman is riding on a two-seater aircraft when the pilot has a fatal heart attack. She radios the tower, which assures her that they are experienced and will be able to help her get to the ground. They ask for her height and position and she responds:
“I’m 5’4″ and in the front seat!”

By: madhu dagmar frantzen

madhu dagmar frantzen — Mon, 19 Oct 2015 19:45:07 +0000

“He has a point.” (Frank)

What kind of “point” might that be, Frank?

By: frank

frank — Mon, 19 Oct 2015 18:44:47 +0000

Yogi, the problem with statements like:
“Simond will have to transcend his own conditioning to know if this is true or not” is that surely the same conditions apply to the one who says it? You or any ‘unenlightened’ person who says this without his/her having ‘transcended his own conditioning’ himself can only be a parrot, surely?

I was talking to a chap I know from a while back, a sannyasin from Pune 1 times. He had declared himself enlightened. When I asked him about it, privately he was quite candid:
“I have been on the path for so long, I got totally sick of being the guy who was always sitting in the crowd, not being able to say what I thought as everyone around would say I was ‘in the mind’ and ‘coming from my ego’, and so on.

Now that I declared myself enlightened you would be amazed – I say the same kind of stuff and even more daft, too, and everyone laps it up like dogs on a dungheap. Enlightenment is the only way out of the double-bind, man.”

I said:
“You could just drop the whole mind/ego/beyond/transcend narrative altogether, and just live your life, meditate if you like, and so on.”

“Yes”, he replied, “but I had been doing it for so long that I couldn`t stop, and anyway, which chick 20 years younger than me is going to look at a grizzled old fucker like me if I don`t have a good angle?”

He has a point.

By: Lokesh

Lokesh — Mon, 19 Oct 2015 17:48:48 +0000

A.Yogi, darling, you obviously don’t realize that I am exploring my feminine side. Hence my mild response.

By: Swami Anand Yogi

Swami Anand Yogi — Mon, 19 Oct 2015 17:27:51 +0000

Party pooper? You sound like a small girl, Lokesh. I was hoping to elicit greater insult from you. You are a Scot, are you not?

Yes, I actually talk like this. I was brainwashed by Osho. I left when it became a cult.

By: Lokesh

Lokesh — Mon, 19 Oct 2015 16:24:54 +0000

I only spent time in religious cults as part of a mental exercise. I was able to resist the brainwashing process and just act my part amongst the other zombies.

By: Lokesh

Lokesh — Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:30:38 +0000

A. Yogi, you are nothing but a party pooper.

“This is the drop commenting on the ocean. Simond will have to transcend his own conditioning to know if this is true or not.”

What a load of patronizing keech. I mean, do you actually talk like that? Have you been brainwashed by the Osho cult?

By: shantam prem

shantam prem — Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:43:17 +0000

How many people on the Earth have spent more time in a cult than you, Lokesh?

You think you have come out from the cult but washing your hands.

People who cross the bridge don´t look back how many others are walking on them or sleeping on them. You are still interested in the price of rice in a village you think you have left long ago.

By: Lokesh

Lokesh — Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:20:42 +0000

The only reason anyone could find that joke funny is if they had been brainwashed by a religious cult.