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	<title>Comments on: Hazrat Mohammed’s Koran</title>
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		<title>By: Ashok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2015 04:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps a re-reading of the paragraph in the thread article, which begins &quot;I don&#039;t understand Arabic...&quot;, will put everything in context for you, Mr Simond. 

If not, just consider that Prem Martyn, might in fact be practising his own unique meditation style]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps a re-reading of the paragraph in the thread article, which begins &#8220;I don&#8217;t understand Arabic&#8230;&#8221;, will put everything in context for you, Mr Simond. </p>
<p>If not, just consider that Prem Martyn, might in fact be practising his own unique meditation style</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2015 19:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“The Koran is a book to be listened to, but not to be read.”

And then the voice of a small child at the back of the crowd called out:
&quot;How can it be listened to if someone is not reading it?&quot;

Osho was clearly damning with faint praise and throwing in a couple of &quot;inshallahs&quot; to sound convincing.

Books not to be read?
My arse!
Whatever next?

Instruments not to be played?
Air not to be breathed?
Food not to be eaten?

And inevitably...
Lives not to be lived?!

Osho was clearly damning with faint praise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The Koran is a book to be listened to, but not to be read.”</p>
<p>And then the voice of a small child at the back of the crowd called out:<br />
&#8220;How can it be listened to if someone is not reading it?&#8221;</p>
<p>Osho was clearly damning with faint praise and throwing in a couple of &#8220;inshallahs&#8221; to sound convincing.</p>
<p>Books not to be read?<br />
My arse!<br />
Whatever next?</p>
<p>Instruments not to be played?<br />
Air not to be breathed?<br />
Food not to be eaten?</p>
<p>And inevitably&#8230;<br />
Lives not to be lived?!</p>
<p>Osho was clearly damning with faint praise.</p>
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		<title>By: prem martyn</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5412#comment-70549</link>
		<dc:creator>prem martyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2015 17:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yess, SS, I forget how many people have referred to me as eloquent. It happens all the time in conversation, not just in teaching or writing. But it&#039;s just the way my thoughts run. 

I&#039;m also loquacious and love it too. Bawdy. Foppish even. I love the Baroque era. I&#039;m very fond of how the sound of language reveals its meaning as much as the words used.

I was simply deconstructing the presumptions on offer. I have been reminding here constantly of the consequences of indulging lazy antagonisms born of fears. I appreciate the humour.

This is my Osho. I share him/me/it/us constantly in good company. 

Cheers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yess, SS, I forget how many people have referred to me as eloquent. It happens all the time in conversation, not just in teaching or writing. But it&#8217;s just the way my thoughts run. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also loquacious and love it too. Bawdy. Foppish even. I love the Baroque era. I&#8217;m very fond of how the sound of language reveals its meaning as much as the words used.</p>
<p>I was simply deconstructing the presumptions on offer. I have been reminding here constantly of the consequences of indulging lazy antagonisms born of fears. I appreciate the humour.</p>
<p>This is my Osho. I share him/me/it/us constantly in good company. </p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: swamishanti</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5412#comment-70548</link>
		<dc:creator>swamishanti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2015 11:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Martyn, 
I can see that you`ve got a great &#039;sannyas head&#039;, but spare a thought for the poor Afghanis who have had to go through years of war, beginning with the Soviet invasion in the eighties (the Mujahideen fought them off, at that time sponsored and funded by the CIA) and then the civil war, which ended up with the Taliban being in control.
And then bombed senseless by the Americans, invaded, evacuated, and now the civil war continues.
http://www.otoons.com/politics/images/alqaeda.swf]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martyn,<br />
I can see that you`ve got a great &#8216;sannyas head&#8217;, but spare a thought for the poor Afghanis who have had to go through years of war, beginning with the Soviet invasion in the eighties (the Mujahideen fought them off, at that time sponsored and funded by the CIA) and then the civil war, which ended up with the Taliban being in control.<br />
And then bombed senseless by the Americans, invaded, evacuated, and now the civil war continues.<br />
<a href="http://www.otoons.com/politics/images/alqaeda.swf" rel="nofollow">http://www.otoons.com/politics/images/alqaeda.swf</a></p>
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		<title>By: swamishanti</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5412#comment-70547</link>
		<dc:creator>swamishanti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2015 11:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Personally I like to hear the sound of the muezzins singing from the mosque, and Arabic and Urdu are both particularly beautiful languages.

I think I agree with Osho that &quot;the Koran is a book to be listened to, but not to be read.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I like to hear the sound of the muezzins singing from the mosque, and Arabic and Urdu are both particularly beautiful languages.</p>
<p>I think I agree with Osho that &#8220;the Koran is a book to be listened to, but not to be read.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: prem martyn</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5412#comment-70545</link>
		<dc:creator>prem martyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2015 09:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shantam,
You are comparing. It is not about comparing, is it? It is about truthfulness, knowing the address then being pragmatic. But you have to be willing, whatever monsters are in your way. Because it&#039;s about knowingly doing what you do. 

Simond,
Please write to my fellow vegetarian and leader of the Labour party, or his Vegan Agriculture Minister (brilliant move, Jezza) for an update. Write them a synthesis of what you understand and I&#039;m sure they&#039;ll fill in the gaps for you. It generally starts with Fairtrade coffee and ends with people telling other people, &quot;I told you so, but you thought we&#039;d never get there, but we did.&quot;

Anyone say &quot;communes&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shantam,<br />
You are comparing. It is not about comparing, is it? It is about truthfulness, knowing the address then being pragmatic. But you have to be willing, whatever monsters are in your way. Because it&#8217;s about knowingly doing what you do. </p>
<p>Simond,<br />
Please write to my fellow vegetarian and leader of the Labour party, or his Vegan Agriculture Minister (brilliant move, Jezza) for an update. Write them a synthesis of what you understand and I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;ll fill in the gaps for you. It generally starts with Fairtrade coffee and ends with people telling other people, &#8220;I told you so, but you thought we&#8217;d never get there, but we did.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyone say &#8220;communes&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5412#comment-70544</link>
		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2015 22:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Will it ever be possible to read a similar comment by one of the Middle East migrants to Europe, “System built by our religion, our leaders, our priests has destroyed us.”?

Almost all of them will go on believing, &quot;Allah is great and it is because of Allah we have reached in the land of hard working people who are stupid enough not to appreciate our Book.&quot;

Impartial reality is, in the competition between Allah and God, God has given the better blueprint to live on the Earth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will it ever be possible to read a similar comment by one of the Middle East migrants to Europe, “System built by our religion, our leaders, our priests has destroyed us.”?</p>
<p>Almost all of them will go on believing, &#8220;Allah is great and it is because of Allah we have reached in the land of hard working people who are stupid enough not to appreciate our Book.&#8221;</p>
<p>Impartial reality is, in the competition between Allah and God, God has given the better blueprint to live on the Earth.</p>
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		<title>By: prem martyn</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5412#comment-70541</link>
		<dc:creator>prem martyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2015 19:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SS,
Yes, extremism terrible really, self-opinionated billion dollar-chested warmongerers who go around starting fights and then blaming it on someone else. I know of just that mindset, it&#039;s called distortion. But you can face it down by giving it right back. 

However, if nations do that you get idiots in charge of your destiny. I prefer a straight fight, starting with catharsis. It&#039;s very healthy and can be done with consenting partners. But it requires ground rules for the benefit to accrue:  
1) Enjoy it  
2) There is no winning
3) Get your rocks off often 
4) Insult the other&#039;s mother.

It usually works to speed things up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SS,<br />
Yes, extremism terrible really, self-opinionated billion dollar-chested warmongerers who go around starting fights and then blaming it on someone else. I know of just that mindset, it&#8217;s called distortion. But you can face it down by giving it right back. </p>
<p>However, if nations do that you get idiots in charge of your destiny. I prefer a straight fight, starting with catharsis. It&#8217;s very healthy and can be done with consenting partners. But it requires ground rules for the benefit to accrue:<br />
1) Enjoy it<br />
2) There is no winning<br />
3) Get your rocks off often<br />
4) Insult the other&#8217;s mother.</p>
<p>It usually works to speed things up.</p>
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		<title>By: prem martyn</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5412#comment-70540</link>
		<dc:creator>prem martyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2015 19:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SS, 
If you have a sword of awareness you must cut both ways...The tree that is being barked up provides shade for all the demons in the western closet too. But by continuous barking up it, in relativistic preference, you won&#039;t achieve anything. In fact, quite the opposite: you will not establish motive or choice or destination at all. 

I&#039;m thinking Ostriches - just do a little Chomskying or Monbiotism, not a lot, just a little, and I promise the reverse gear, self-justifying, Eton, Christopher Hitchens/Blair type disease will be removed in a trice. 

But if you don&#039;t go there, then I will not push or shove my way into trying to cure historical Alzheimers. Just take this last tablet with a pinch of salt: How many Indians did the humanist Americans slaughter? Was it 19 million? Etc. etc. etc. etc. Yep, Osho was into mentioning that about the Ranch land too, just as a reminder of the other Indians. 

Conscious analysis is not centred in cultural attachments or privilege. That&#039;s called being cozy and self-satisfied. So, Islamists are mad. Do we ask daddy to protect us from the hordes ad infinitum? The war without end? What a state of mind that is, that we feel obliged to live in the last ten years. 

I said as much once, at full voice, at Bag Control in Bristol Airport. I shouted, &quot;Have the Germans won the War?&quot; to a stunned hall of bag-opening passengers, when I was challenged by a teenager over bagging my toothpaste in a plastic bag for a pound. Purleeees.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SS,<br />
If you have a sword of awareness you must cut both ways&#8230;The tree that is being barked up provides shade for all the demons in the western closet too. But by continuous barking up it, in relativistic preference, you won&#8217;t achieve anything. In fact, quite the opposite: you will not establish motive or choice or destination at all. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking Ostriches &#8211; just do a little Chomskying or Monbiotism, not a lot, just a little, and I promise the reverse gear, self-justifying, Eton, Christopher Hitchens/Blair type disease will be removed in a trice. </p>
<p>But if you don&#8217;t go there, then I will not push or shove my way into trying to cure historical Alzheimers. Just take this last tablet with a pinch of salt: How many Indians did the humanist Americans slaughter? Was it 19 million? Etc. etc. etc. etc. Yep, Osho was into mentioning that about the Ranch land too, just as a reminder of the other Indians. </p>
<p>Conscious analysis is not centred in cultural attachments or privilege. That&#8217;s called being cozy and self-satisfied. So, Islamists are mad. Do we ask daddy to protect us from the hordes ad infinitum? The war without end? What a state of mind that is, that we feel obliged to live in the last ten years. </p>
<p>I said as much once, at full voice, at Bag Control in Bristol Airport. I shouted, &#8220;Have the Germans won the War?&#8221; to a stunned hall of bag-opening passengers, when I was challenged by a teenager over bagging my toothpaste in a plastic bag for a pound. Purleeees.</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5412#comment-70539</link>
		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2015 16:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think other than woman´s anatomy, everything else around is imperfect in the mind of Martyn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think other than woman´s anatomy, everything else around is imperfect in the mind of Martyn.</p>
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