Swami D: I think you’re right by emphasising that the resort management did less or nothing that protected its guests and that, by doing so, they put all at risk of serious harm that night.

What we saw that evening was personal intuitive behaviour and panic out of fear for panic. There were no traces of an emergency plan and if there was one (on paper), it wasn’t communicated well and certainly not rehearsed in reality on some regular scale.

This raises a question about the future? The perpetrators of the German Bakery Blast aren’t captured yet. So, are they still around? Did they delete the Resort as a target on their list or are they just waiting for the next season? And if so, how to protect a place like the Osho Resort, still accessible from all sides if you really want to. What about a detail as the maroon robes, ideal to smuggle anything inside? And less a detail, what about this management, seemingly locked up in personal interests and (rupee-?) networks? Seemingly loosing contact with the real world outside, alienated, some drinking and some possibly mentally traumatised as i.e. Jayesh by what he went through in the Mumbai attack?

How does this future look like? To me its a dangerous picture,not very suited to sweep under any carpet or what so ever. So, what to do being in charge here? Not an easy question to me, also realizing the way the Indian police functioned till now. (see i.e.: http://www.epapergallery.com/IntelligentPune/2Apr2010/Enlarge/page8.htm and also page 9 and 10)).

If Dhyanesh did receive a phone call from Sannai guard just after the blast, and if he did not immediately respond then I would like to no why. Perhaps he was in a meeting at the time with Jayesh. The Sannai guard is say as the crow flies around 80 metres from the blast. I assume the explosion would have been quite loud from that distance. I also assume that the mayhem (the screams etc) would have also been particularly troubling at that distance. I am a betting man. I bet that the Sannai guard ran the 20 yards or so to the corner of North Main Road and had a little peak at what happened. Wouldn’t you? What do you think he would have seen? I heard one body was blown across North Main Road and into a neighbouring residential society. The carnage, the smell, the smoke, the fire, the screaming, would all have been unimaginable. From the corner of North Main Road, at a distance of lets say 70 metres, I can bet the imagery would have been very clear. I assume from this that the Sannai guard would have made some basic facts very clear to Dhyanesh, that would have left little doubt in his mind about the serious nature of the incident. Really, given the recent and repeated information passed to the resort from the police about the possibility of a terrorist attack, and assuming the Sannai guard said there was a loud explosion and agonizing screams and utter mayhem etc., then surely it should have immediately been flagged as a possible bombing. Surely it should also have been immediately flagged that it may not be an isolated incident. I accept it may also be considered a gas cylinder blast, but under the circumstances surely the priority should have been given to treating it as a possible bombing. In this event one thing I certainly would not have done is ran to the blast site without first discussing the situation with main-gate security. I would also certainly have not run to the site without enacting the emergency security plan (that was widely touted in the media as being invincible).

Again I repeat, if Dhyanesh did receive a phone call from the Sannai guard just after the blast, and if he did not immediately respond, then I would like to no why. If he was in a meeting with Jayesh when he took the call from the Sannai guard, then presumably he passed on this information to Jayesh. Again I repeat, surely the information from the Sannai guard would have been of a most troubling nature. Given the preceding threats of terrorism, if someone was just 100 yards from the Bakery blast, I am sure that if they immediately phoned me, they would have convinced me that it was in all likelihood a major terrorist bombing. In the back of my mind I would also have considered the pitiful state of gas cylinders in India. But then again, the German Bakery’s cylinders are locked up in a small compartment with metal framed and metal sheeted doors for protection.

If Dhyanesh passed the information he received from Sannai guard immediately onto Jayesh, then what did Jayesh then do? One active thing that I have heard he did was get Sudheer to ban the sannyasin who tried to get the DJ to lower the music so he could inform the party goers of what just happened at the German Bakery. The only other active thing I have heard he did was get out of the country.

From what I can glean, Jayesh (or perhaps better to say the management in general) tried to pretend that nothing happened, and hope that it would all blow away. It has nothing to do with them. Just make it business as usual and ignore the bad stuff (even if it has direct implications for the resort). Sweep it under the bed mentality.

Nadia was an Osho sannyassin but not a real one. She was with that nutty swan Zen Dolano women down the road anyhow. (Of course Nadia no doubt was first drawn to Koregaon Park because of the Osho resort). Who cares about that Thai guy, oops that Taiwanese guy. The Bakery, well it was just a dingy little place anyhow. It was full of prostitutes, drug addicts, and banned Osho sannyassins.

I get all this, but what I do not get is why management appears to have done nothing to protect its very own clientele. Actually it appears they did everything possible to put them at risk of serious harm. What about your brand image?

I read about this guy Abhay who got banned and threatened and assaulted for complaining about the state of the water. Last time he was in town he lived under a bench at the German Bakery. He fits the description of a German Bakery loser. He’s a drug addict, a banned Osho sannyasin, and I suppose he must also visit prostitutes. Oh yeah, and he is also a dangerous and violent criminal. It just can’t be true all those terrible things Abhay has been saying. As if the resort would let its visitors drink contaminated drinking water (and in India mind you). As if the resort would have Abhay banned because he wanted to fix the water. Utterly absurd!!!

You know what, I bet it’s just like the water! Shantam saw the connection straight away.

LoL

I understand that it was considered a possibility by some people that it may have been a gas cylinder blowing up. I think it highly unlikely that the police never also immediately entertained the possibility of it being a terrorist incident, especially considering the recent information about Pune (and the Osho Resort) being a terrorist target.

You mention a concert in Lane 7. I would be surprised, no I would be amazed, if the people who attended or played at the concert knew of the utter devastation that happened just down the road.

You also mention that the party wasn’t really a hit. You are being stupid here. If someone did sneak over any of the vast perimeter of fencing and dropped a little bag beside the DJ that night, then Anand determines that that would be cool. Of course what if at 7pm a team of highly trained terrorists walked down the road to the resort with grenades and machine guns, and wiped out everything in their path. What if they then walked into White-Robe? Do you think the guards little bamboo stick would have done much to avert disaster? Get real you idiot!

Vigyano I am not really into email or Fakebook, but perhaps I should try to get an account. Anyhow this little chat is at the bottom of a 3 articles old little website, so it is probably just you, me, and of course Anand.

When you arrived around 8.15pm (around the time of White-Robe finishing), Dhyanesh was not there anymore. I assume this means that he passed by the main gate in responding to a call from a Sannai guard. I can understand the motivation to go to Sannai and perhaps even to the Bakery (just a few metres round the corner). The thing is that the end of White-Robe was some 80 minutes after the blast. During this time, everyone in White-Robe were ‘sitting ducks’. It would take not more than a minute to reach the Bakery on foot (running on adrenalin) from main gate.

For the uninformed the gas cylinders are locked up in a small room round the side of the Bakery (with doors made of sheet metal). I think it would be quite obvious almost straight away (to anyone that knows the Bakery) whether or not any of the cylinders blew up. Presumably the doors would have been damaged, and in an outward direction. The devastation being what it was, with the outer retaining wall being partly wiped out, then of course there would not be any doors to speak of.

Futhermore, It really was a mess on the blast site that evening. Our Taiwanese friend was laying on the far end of the site. All ambulances and rickshaws were already gone. The only car left was a police car in which (as far as I could see in the dark) people were loading mutilated dead bodies and body parts. So I asked them to concentrate on the two victims who were still alive. Our friend and someone who lost both legs but still seemed living. Furthermore I assume there was some central coordination between the hospitals, which directed the police car to the Sassoon hospital.

About Amrito: I think you are right that he wasn’t informed! However, that wasn’t the problem to us. The problem was showing incapable to listen, communicate and to act conform. I deemed to see a man who seemed very afraid to take real responsibilities.

Our question was; why does the resort collect, our names, addresses en telephone numbers otherwise . Suppose the blast had been in the white robe Auditorium and also nobody knowing what to do?

What showed up is, that there was nothing that looked like a emergency of safety plan. No instructions to the gate workers, no backing up of Dhyanisch , no mandated access to the system etc etc.. All okay for me if it had been policy, but it remains very strange because it was known for month that the resort and the Chabad house were hard targets on the terrorists list..

Personally I struggled with the question: what are the real priorities in the heads of our OIF board-members, those who have the end responsibility for safety of the Resort guest? Is it money, the stock market, a personal safe old age, or simply rage against a non understanding and inferior outside world? So what is going on there???

Anand what is your story of that evening? Were you in the White Robe? What did you see en hear afterwards? You also went to the blast site I understand.

Sw Detective: maybe we have to communicate the smaller details directly via the mail (dorenbosch@xs4all.nl). I like to support you main conclusion about the safety of the Resort. The management really have to learn from it and in my eyes they have to communicate future strategies, not loosing the credibility to future visitors. I wonder if they have the ability to do so, To me it seems that their vision of the world is heavily mutilated during the 20 years of disconnection to what people feel outside.their world.

About Dhyanesh. As we know he isn’t part of the Inner circle but nevertheless is the only real connection to the outer world. He was the only one who directly expressed heart, manners and compassion. Nevertheless I think that in safety terms, thing went really really wrong that evening.

I also think Dhyanesh and Jayesh were in a meeting and not in the white robe that evening. At the time we arrived at the gate (ca. 20.15 hours) Dhyanesh wasn’t there anymore. There had been a call from Sannai they said). He wasn’t to be reached by phone, and seeing the conduct of Amrito, he neither Jayes (!) were informing the White robe. Actually the Resort was a sitting duck to potential terrorism that evening. And we all have to be very happy that it wasn’t part of their program that evening.

Futhermore, It really was a mess on the blast site that evening. Our Taiwanese friend was laying on the far end of the site. All ambulances and rickshaws were already gone. The only car left was a police car in which (as far as I could see in the dark) people were loading mutilated dead bodies and body parts. So I asked them to concentrate on the two victims who were still alive. Our friend and someone who lost both legs but still seemed living. Furthermore I assume there was some central coordination between the hospitals, which directed the police car to the Sassoon hospital.

About Amrito: I think you are right that he wasn’t informed! However, that wasn’t the problem to us. The problem was showing incapable to listen, communicate and to act conform. I deemed to see a man who seemed very afraid to take real responsibilities.

Our question was; why does the resort collect, our names, addresses en telephone numbers otherwise . Suppose the blast had been in the white robe Auditorium and also nobody knowing what to do?

What showed up is, that there was nothing that looked like a emergency of safety plan. No instructions to the gate workers, no backing up of Dhyanisch , no mandated access to the system etc etc.. All okay for me if it had been policy, but it remains very strange because it was known for month that the resort and the Chabad house were hard targets on the terrorists list..

Personally I struggled with the question: what are the real priorities in the heads of our OIF board-members, those who have the end responsibility for safety of the Resort guest? Is it money, the stock market, a personal safe old age, or simply rage against a non understanding and inferior outside world? So what is going on there???

Anand what is your story of that evening? Were you in the White Robe? What did you see en hear afterwards? You also went to the blast site I understand.

Sw Detective: maybe we have to communicate the smaller details directly via the mail (dorenbosch@xs4all.nl). I like to support you main conclusion about the safety of the Resort. The management really have to learn from it and in my eyes they have to communicate future strategies, not loosing the credibility to future visitors. I wonder if they have the ability to do so, To me it seems that their vision of the world is heavily mutilated during the 20 years of disconnection to what people feel outside.their world.

About Dhyanesh. As we know he isn’t part of the Inner circle but nevertheless is the only real connection to the outer world. He was the only one who directly expressed heart, manners and compassion. Nevertheless I think that in safety terms, thing went really really wrong that evening.

I also think Dhyanesh and Jayesh were in a meeting and not in the white robe that evening. At the time we arrived at the gate (ca. 20.15 hours) Dhyanesh wasn’t there anymore. There had been a call from Sannai they said). He wasn’t to be reached by phone, and seeing the conduct of Amrito, he neither Jayes (!) were informing the White robe. Actually the Resort was a sitting duck to potential terrorism that evening. And we all have to be very happy that it wasn’t part of their program that evening.

And the saturday night party at the Multiversity Plaza was attended by very few people. After all the roads were closed etc.

About 200 people also attended the concert with Chinmaya and Karunesh at Lane 7.

I am assuming now that Jayesh and Dhyanesh were involved in a meeting at the time of White-Robe (and the explosion). I am assuming Anand that you are clear on the time of seeing Anando and Dhyanesh at the blast site, and that it was after White-Robe (presumably you know that White-Robe had finished). It is also possible that Dhyanesh was at the site previously, or had been to the site for some time before you saw him, and hence your account would then be consistent with Vigyano’s.

Amrito’s comment about waiting for Dhyanesh means that he was of the view that Dhyanesh was in attendance at White-Robe. This is another area of contention. Did he have reason to think that Dhyanesh was in White-Robe, or did he think so out of habit, or did he know that Dhyanesh was in White-Robe?

I would also like to acknowledge Vigyano that you and your partner would have experienced the most unimaginably appalling scenes, and acted in a most selfless and courageous manner in the face of the possibility of further incidents.

The guards at the main gate have raised two issues. The first issue is that they could not reach Dhyanesh. The second issue is that they would not disturb White-Robe. Now from this I made the assumption that Dhyanesh was therefore in White-Robe. It is a reasonable assumption to make. (Of course I here are linking the two issues, and it is possible that security at main gate was aware that Dhyanesh was not in White-Robe, could not contact him, and did not want to entertain the possibility of contacting another senior management figure who was in attendance in White-Robe).

Vigyano, you say you arrived at main gate to see your partner still waiting for help from the resort at just the time that White-Robe finished. So up until the end of White-Robe, security at the main gate was unable to contact Dhyanesh and unwilling to disturb White-Robe. I assume firstly that in being unwilling to disturb White-Robe this also means that they did not enact any additional measures to ensure the safety of the people participating in White-Robe.

How is it that for the entire duration of White-Robe the security at the main gate was not in any contact with Dhyanesh (the head of security)? It is possible that main gate security was not truthful in this regard, however this makes little sense. What reason would main gate have to lie to Vigyano’s partner about this? It makes more sense that Dhyanesh made no contact with main gate security for the duration of White-Robe. Now if Dhyanesh was meeting Jayesh somewhere in the resort, then it seems implausible that he ran to the blast site soon after the blast (with this being prior to the end of White-Robe). Perhaps he was meeting Jayesh in an outside location (maybe the O-Hotel)?

From the above analysis I find it difficult to accept Vigyano’s account of Dhyanesh running to the blast site soon after the blasts occurrence.

This raises important questions about Dhyanesh’s whereabouts. When was Dhyanesh informed of the blast and by whom? It seems that is was not the main gate security as they apparently had no idea where he was or how to contact him. I recall reading previously that the Sannai guard contacted him, and that he subsequently ran to the blast site. Yet this makes no sense. If the Sannai guard did call Dhyanesh when did he do so. Surely this would have taken place just after the blast occurred. Why would the Sannai guard wait till some time later (possibly after White-Robe) to call Dhyanesh and alert him to this most serious situation? So if the Sannai guard called Dhyanesh soon after the blast, and Dhyanesh then ran to the blast site, why did not main gate security know anything about this?

Perhaps the most important area of concern is what Dhyanesh did not with respect to the personal viewing of the Bakery blast, but with respect to ensuring the safety of the resort. As stated previously there was no stated liaising between Dhyanesh and main gate security for the duration of White-Robe. When was Dhyanesh notified of the Bakery incident, by whom, and what actions did he subsequently take?

Now if Dhyanesh was aware of the Bakery blast just after its occurrence, what did he do from then until the end of White-Robe? I find it simply puzzling to say the least that he would have had no contact with main gate security. I again reiterate the point that the resort was known in the preceding months and weeks to be on terrorists radars. As soon as the blast happened at the bakery the possibility of further attacks (whether from blasts or otherwise), was a very real concern. (There is no defence here that the Bakery blast may have been a gas explosion accident. The reason is that given the terrorist threat and the scale of the Bakery disaster, one should surely err on the side of caution). Vigyano and his partner left themselves open to this possibility in their actions, as did many other courageous individuals. So what did Dhyanesh do in response to this obvious possibility?

If Dhyanesh was not notified in a timely manner of the Bakery blast this would explain some discrepancies. It would help explain for example main gate security’s remarkable inaction. It however would not explain why main gate did not go to extraordinary length to contact Dhyanesh in this extra-ordinary situation. (Perhaps they did but from the personal accounts it appears not). More importantly though, it would not explain why Dhyanesh was not contacted until long after the Bakery blast occurred.

Why would Dhyanesh not have been notified immediately after the blast, at least by someone? Perhaps he was in a closed door meeting with Jayesh (at the resort), and either main gate was unaware of this meeting and its location, or main gate was unwilling for some reason to contact them. This latter account may be explained on the basis the Jayesh is the chairmen of the Inner-Circle, and so if he is having a meeting with the head of security then it may have been deemed too important to interrupt. I do not consider such reasoning acceptable, and if this was the reasoning, by whom was it made. Did Dhyanesh instruct main gate security that he was not to be disturbed under any circumstances?

This of course leads to Jayesh. Essentially the approach is to ask the same questions of Jayesh as of Dhyanesh. When was he notified of the Bakery blast, by whom, and what actions did he subsequently take. The main line of questioning is that Jayesh was apparently having a meeting with Dhyanesh (the head of security). It is therefore pertinent to query the correspondence between these to people in relation to the happenings (or lack of them) that evening.

At a personal level we have it that Jayesh may have some circumstances of his own to merit his conduct. I have also read somewhere that Sudheer enforced a banning on the sannyassin that tried to inform the party goers that night of the Bakery blast, and that this was done so at the behest of Jayesh. I have previously stated that the conducting of a disco that evening was not just ‘sinister’, but deeply flawed from a security perspective (as with not taking additional measures relating to White-Robe). I am interested in who allowed the party to take place. If it was Jayesh that requested the sannyassin be banned, I assume that he was supportive of the party taking place, even if not actively so.

Now I come to the question of why Jayesh left the resort (and the country) the next morning.

If he was running away out of fear (perhaps something came up because of being previously involved with the Mumbai bombings) then he is acknowledging that he believes there is a serious threat to the resort. If this is assumed, it does not therefore make any sense that he was either actively or passively unsupportive of additional measures for White-Robe or actively or passively supportive of the evening disco taking place. I also make the point here that if this line of reasoning has any validity, then the resort management has some serious internal problems to come to terms with. If Jayesh went into shock and acted in an irrational manner, then he is in no way fit to manage the resort (let alone the responsibilities of Inner-Circle chairperson).

If Jayesh, like Dhyanesh, was party to inaction with respect to the protection of White-Robe participants, or was a party to enacting the evening disco, then he is culpable of negligent conduct. If Jayesh, like Dhyanesh, was not aware of the Blast incident for ‘some’ time, then the question remains why not. The question also remains what procedures were put in place to ensure that they were informed in the event of a serious incident. Here I also add not just Dhyanesh and Jayesh, but also other members of resort management. How can the resort be said to be well protected when in the event of a serious potential threat, no one of any seniority (not just in management but also in security), can be located or ‘disturbed’? If they were located, when, by whom, and what did they then do (or not do as the case may be)?

It appears that little if nothing was done at least till the end of White-Robe (let’s say that is at least an hour after the blast), and for an as yet unknown time after that. The question remains why not?

If Dhyanesh was personally inspecting the Bakery blast site during White-Robe, then the question remains who was taking care of security responsibilities for the resort? Had he already disseminated his duties to trustworthy subordinates. Surely this cannot be the case because main gate security apparently never even new where he was, let alone how to reach him. Still, surely Dhyanesh should still have been present at the resort and immediately contactable by all relevant people.

If Dhyanesh was at the Bakery blast site some time after White-Robe, the same question remains. Who was taking care of security for the resort? What was being done to ensure the safety of the resorts guests? It seems to me that nothing was being done to ensure the safety of the resort guests, and everything was being done to expose them to harm. If this is the case I really would like to know why. I would also really like to know what will be done to ensure this never ever happens again and that the relevant people are held accountable.

LoL (Love of Law)
Detective Swami

Amrito just coming out of the Evening Meditation probably just wanted to cross the road through the main gate back to his room in Lao Tzu. At this point he was probably not informed about the bombing (?).

Dhyanesh went later that evening to the bombing site with Anando. i saw them there.

Fresch I would like to inform you that you are getting a little annoying for the resort management. I am off to buy some black wool, and will commence with knitting my black-robe.

Yes Mr Smartyn you can hide behind your ideologies, you can quote snippets without sufficient documentation for anyone to understand your viewpoint let alone reply, and you can agree to run away, but you as yet have not made a single response to any issue I have raised. Ream after ream of tirade against the establishment, yet when you are questioned you shrink into your shell.