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	<title>Comments on: Osho&#8217;s early Kirtan groups</title>
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		<title>By: Tan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2015 22:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Madhu, you are a song, still mysterious...! X]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Madhu, you are a song, still mysterious&#8230;! X</p>
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		<title>By: Tan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2015 22:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am just listening to them now, and it is wonderful! Thanks once more!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am just listening to them now, and it is wonderful! Thanks once more!</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5133#comment-68725</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2015 15:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok, on with the headphones - here&#039;s some empathy for all fellow-depressives, chronic sufferers, or anyone going through a hard time...
(Tan, early on there&#039;s a ref. to Phoebe Snow and a quote from the song of hers I put up)...

https://youtu.be/ygFfFk5gw3w

And here&#039;s one for when you start to come out of it and life begins to feel good again...

https://youtu.be/fRF6UhzfBrY?list=PLyA01nZTKfxdNA6U-gGt1ItKMUWrRxNVf]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, on with the headphones &#8211; here&#8217;s some empathy for all fellow-depressives, chronic sufferers, or anyone going through a hard time&#8230;<br />
(Tan, early on there&#8217;s a ref. to Phoebe Snow and a quote from the song of hers I put up)&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="https://youtu.be/ygFfFk5gw3w" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/ygFfFk5gw3w</a></p>
<p>And here&#8217;s one for when you start to come out of it and life begins to feel good again&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="https://youtu.be/fRF6UhzfBrY?list=PLyA01nZTKfxdNA6U-gGt1ItKMUWrRxNVf" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/fRF6UhzfBrY?list=PLyA01nZTKfxdNA6U-gGt1ItKMUWrRxNVf</a></p>
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		<title>By: rpana3</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5133#comment-68723</link>
		<dc:creator>rpana3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2015 11:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Now I wonder if Bliss has always been a bait used by the wise to entice the otherwise!&quot;

Yes. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Now I wonder if Bliss has always been a bait used by the wise to entice the otherwise!&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes. <img src='http://sannyasnews.org/now/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kavita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kavita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2015 10:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[rpana3 says:
20 June, 2015 at 7:54 am
&quot;I have ofton thought we should talk about it more, Kavita.

The big Sannyas lie is that we are all, should be blissfully happy all the time. Sannyas is life. Highs and lows:)&quot;

Why not? We can talk about that, Arpana.

Frankly, to me, coming to Poona, investing/ gambling all that I had into Sannyas (myself) was the only option worth living for. I am glad that I didn&#039;t compromise on that and didn&#039;t get entangled in any other games. 

Of course, never did I ever imagine the rollercoaster ride -would be possible if I had to live a so-called normal life. Now I wonder if Bliss has always been a bait used by the wise to entice the otherwise!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rpana3 says:<br />
20 June, 2015 at 7:54 am<br />
&#8220;I have ofton thought we should talk about it more, Kavita.</p>
<p>The big Sannyas lie is that we are all, should be blissfully happy all the time. Sannyas is life. Highs and lows:)&#8221;</p>
<p>Why not? We can talk about that, Arpana.</p>
<p>Frankly, to me, coming to Poona, investing/ gambling all that I had into Sannyas (myself) was the only option worth living for. I am glad that I didn&#8217;t compromise on that and didn&#8217;t get entangled in any other games. </p>
<p>Of course, never did I ever imagine the rollercoaster ride -would be possible if I had to live a so-called normal life. Now I wonder if Bliss has always been a bait used by the wise to entice the otherwise!</p>
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		<title>By: madhu dagmar frantzen</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5133#comment-68721</link>
		<dc:creator>madhu dagmar frantzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2015 10:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are we getting a little more ´real´ here? In spite of?/ with?/ or within? Or a glimpse of that it would be without on the virtual plane? Touching the screens of facades as gently as that can be? Having a glimpse behind them?

And can we integrate this? Without falling back into old habits and patterns, which are performed as easy, as easy can be, especially on the virtual (anonymous) plane? Are we able to, Friends? 

If YES, I would call that a miracle, worth that name, and then, even in the virtual, an inner-outer ´Kirtan&#039; would have proved it´s very ordinary-extraordinary, spiritual ancient-wisdom-strengths. (Although ancient Wisdom does not need any proof, does it?).

I have been touched deeply in and in-between the lines to read and don´t get me wrong, please, as there is so much echo in my heart.

Within love to that tiny little spot here called ´caravanserai&#039; and its visitors and contributors. 

Rainy cool Saturday 
Gentle the Winds 
Making music with the fresh leaves in bushes and trees
They´ve got stronger by now since they came out
For another turn of the wheels of Nature 
Jasmin and rose blossoms wait for the sun to release its fragrances 
Tonight fires are lit 
People celebrating the turn of the wheel of Nature
(not Eddington, Tan, but Light is also involved in the celebration as a symbol also for becoming and disappearing and coming again).

On and on, we go...(remember this song?).

I love many of the old songs. Very much so. There are still tingling  my heart.

Madhu]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we getting a little more ´real´ here? In spite of?/ with?/ or within? Or a glimpse of that it would be without on the virtual plane? Touching the screens of facades as gently as that can be? Having a glimpse behind them?</p>
<p>And can we integrate this? Without falling back into old habits and patterns, which are performed as easy, as easy can be, especially on the virtual (anonymous) plane? Are we able to, Friends? </p>
<p>If YES, I would call that a miracle, worth that name, and then, even in the virtual, an inner-outer ´Kirtan&#8217; would have proved it´s very ordinary-extraordinary, spiritual ancient-wisdom-strengths. (Although ancient Wisdom does not need any proof, does it?).</p>
<p>I have been touched deeply in and in-between the lines to read and don´t get me wrong, please, as there is so much echo in my heart.</p>
<p>Within love to that tiny little spot here called ´caravanserai&#8217; and its visitors and contributors. </p>
<p>Rainy cool Saturday<br />
Gentle the Winds<br />
Making music with the fresh leaves in bushes and trees<br />
They´ve got stronger by now since they came out<br />
For another turn of the wheels of Nature<br />
Jasmin and rose blossoms wait for the sun to release its fragrances<br />
Tonight fires are lit<br />
People celebrating the turn of the wheel of Nature<br />
(not Eddington, Tan, but Light is also involved in the celebration as a symbol also for becoming and disappearing and coming again).</p>
<p>On and on, we go&#8230;(remember this song?).</p>
<p>I love many of the old songs. Very much so. There are still tingling  my heart.</p>
<p>Madhu</p>
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		<title>By: Tan</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5133#comment-68717</link>
		<dc:creator>Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2015 07:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frank, forget Arthur Eddington. Yogi can give him a lesson in what imagination is all about, I am sure of that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank, forget Arthur Eddington. Yogi can give him a lesson in what imagination is all about, I am sure of that.</p>
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		<title>By: rpana3</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5133#comment-68716</link>
		<dc:creator>rpana3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2015 06:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“I actually attack the concept of happiness. The idea that - I don’t mind people being happy - but the idea that everything we do is part of the pursuit of happiness seems to me a really dangerous idea and has led to a contemporary disease in Western society, which is fear of sadness. 

It’s a really odd thing that we’re now seeing people saying “write down 3 things that made you happy today before you go to sleep”, and “cheer up” and “happiness is our birthright” and so on. We’re kind of teaching our kids that happiness is the default position - it’s rubbish. Wholeness is what we ought to be striving for and part of that is sadness, disappointment, frustration, failure; all of those things which make us who we are. 

Happiness and victory and fulfilment are nice little things that also happen to us, but they don’t teach us much. Everyone says we grow through pain and then as soon as they experience pain they say “Quick! Move on! Cheer up!” 

I’d like just for a year to have a moratorium on the word &#039;happiness&#039; and to replace it with the word &#039;wholeness&#039;. Ask yourself “is this contributing to my wholeness?” and if you’re having a bad day, it is.” 

Hugh Mackay.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I actually attack the concept of happiness. The idea that &#8211; I don’t mind people being happy &#8211; but the idea that everything we do is part of the pursuit of happiness seems to me a really dangerous idea and has led to a contemporary disease in Western society, which is fear of sadness. </p>
<p>It’s a really odd thing that we’re now seeing people saying “write down 3 things that made you happy today before you go to sleep”, and “cheer up” and “happiness is our birthright” and so on. We’re kind of teaching our kids that happiness is the default position &#8211; it’s rubbish. Wholeness is what we ought to be striving for and part of that is sadness, disappointment, frustration, failure; all of those things which make us who we are. </p>
<p>Happiness and victory and fulfilment are nice little things that also happen to us, but they don’t teach us much. Everyone says we grow through pain and then as soon as they experience pain they say “Quick! Move on! Cheer up!” </p>
<p>I’d like just for a year to have a moratorium on the word &#8216;happiness&#8217; and to replace it with the word &#8216;wholeness&#8217;. Ask yourself “is this contributing to my wholeness?” and if you’re having a bad day, it is.” </p>
<p>Hugh Mackay.</p>
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		<title>By: rpana3</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5133#comment-68715</link>
		<dc:creator>rpana3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2015 06:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have ofton thought we should talk about it more, Kavita. 

The big Sannyas lie is that we are all, should be blissfully happy all the time. Sannyas is life. Highs and lows:)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have ofton thought we should talk about it more, Kavita. </p>
<p>The big Sannyas lie is that we are all, should be blissfully happy all the time. Sannyas is life. Highs and lows:)</p>
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		<title>By: Kavita</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5133#comment-68713</link>
		<dc:creator>Kavita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2015 02:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You guys have done well considering your clarity now. Let me share that I/most of us have all gone through this rigmarole in some degree in Poona &amp; then thereafter come back on track with much clarity (for oneself).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys have done well considering your clarity now. Let me share that I/most of us have all gone through this rigmarole in some degree in Poona &#038; then thereafter come back on track with much clarity (for oneself).</p>
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