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		<title>By: simond</title>
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		<dc:creator>simond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2015 09:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gotcha, Lokesh.

Thanks for clearing up my confusion.

Like you, I sense his words act as a good introduction and that many today are using him in a far more intelligent way; no longer confused by the drama of Sannyas, the Ranch and concerns about Rolls Royces, etc.

As to the space between his words, much of my own understanding was transmitted in this way. Particularly in his earlier Poona 1 discourses and books, the energy did reach across the page and into me.

I don&#039;t worry about how it affects other people, or that they will &#039;miss&#039;. I know if it affected silly old me, it will affect and did affect others as well.

Of course there were and still are many who have missed the underlying message altogether. 

That&#039;s life!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotcha, Lokesh.</p>
<p>Thanks for clearing up my confusion.</p>
<p>Like you, I sense his words act as a good introduction and that many today are using him in a far more intelligent way; no longer confused by the drama of Sannyas, the Ranch and concerns about Rolls Royces, etc.</p>
<p>As to the space between his words, much of my own understanding was transmitted in this way. Particularly in his earlier Poona 1 discourses and books, the energy did reach across the page and into me.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t worry about how it affects other people, or that they will &#8216;miss&#8217;. I know if it affected silly old me, it will affect and did affect others as well.</p>
<p>Of course there were and still are many who have missed the underlying message altogether. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s life!</p>
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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5105#comment-68446</link>
		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2015 08:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Simond, there is a lot of benefit to be had from reading Osho books. He did a lot of groundwork for people. He also talked a lot of nonsense from time to time and if a reader were to take that seriously then it would be a bad joke.

It&#039;s over 40 years now since I first met Osho. I rarely read anything by Osho and never watch lectures etc. Last book I picked up by Osho was &#039;No Water, No Moon.&#039; I love that book. I was there when he delivered the discourses and yes, his words affected me deeply. The fact that he was actually there speaking might have had a lot to do with it.

Osho has been dead for some time now and I see too much emphasis placed upon his words. Who knows where it will go? Osho repeated many times that his real message lay in the space between the words. I think much of today&#039;s readers will miss that. 

Then we have the copy and pasters, even here on SN. Instead of saying what they have to say they give an Osho quote. I find that most uninspirational. I always loved when Osho joked about the only son of God. Then he would ask, &quot;Who are we, the bastards?&quot; One meaning you can take from that is that you can stand up and say that you have something to say for yourself. Maybe not so eloquent or wise as Osho&#039;s but nonetheless authentic and divine. I am sure you catch my transcendental drift.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simond, there is a lot of benefit to be had from reading Osho books. He did a lot of groundwork for people. He also talked a lot of nonsense from time to time and if a reader were to take that seriously then it would be a bad joke.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s over 40 years now since I first met Osho. I rarely read anything by Osho and never watch lectures etc. Last book I picked up by Osho was &#8216;No Water, No Moon.&#8217; I love that book. I was there when he delivered the discourses and yes, his words affected me deeply. The fact that he was actually there speaking might have had a lot to do with it.</p>
<p>Osho has been dead for some time now and I see too much emphasis placed upon his words. Who knows where it will go? Osho repeated many times that his real message lay in the space between the words. I think much of today&#8217;s readers will miss that. </p>
<p>Then we have the copy and pasters, even here on SN. Instead of saying what they have to say they give an Osho quote. I find that most uninspirational. I always loved when Osho joked about the only son of God. Then he would ask, &#8220;Who are we, the bastards?&#8221; One meaning you can take from that is that you can stand up and say that you have something to say for yourself. Maybe not so eloquent or wise as Osho&#8217;s but nonetheless authentic and divine. I am sure you catch my transcendental drift.</p>
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		<title>By: Kavita</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5105#comment-68441</link>
		<dc:creator>Kavita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2015 03:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lokesh, you haven&#039;t answered Simond&#039;s 9 June, 2015 at 3:34 pm query.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lokesh, you haven&#8217;t answered Simond&#8217;s 9 June, 2015 at 3:34 pm query.</p>
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		<title>By: saadz</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5105#comment-68440</link>
		<dc:creator>saadz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2015 23:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Parmartha, in general there has been no block on Osho here at the library. Just this clip for some reason. But since I made the post here it opened up without me talking to anyone. 

I spoke out against the War during the &quot;W&quot; Bush administration, and I&#039;ve been sabotaged online &amp; had my mail messed with since then. Just wondering if you think there is still a cold war going on against Osho &amp; His Sannyasins here in the U.S.A. I do.
                                                         Thank you,
                                                          Saadz]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parmartha, in general there has been no block on Osho here at the library. Just this clip for some reason. But since I made the post here it opened up without me talking to anyone. </p>
<p>I spoke out against the War during the &#8220;W&#8221; Bush administration, and I&#8217;ve been sabotaged online &amp; had my mail messed with since then. Just wondering if you think there is still a cold war going on against Osho &amp; His Sannyasins here in the U.S.A. I do.<br />
                                                         Thank you,<br />
                                                          Saadz</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5105#comment-68430</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2015 18:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In which case, don&#039;t presume to know anything worthwhile about any other &#039;religious teacher&#039;. In other words, keep your ignorant, stupid mouth shut.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In which case, don&#8217;t presume to know anything worthwhile about any other &#8216;religious teacher&#8217;. In other words, keep your ignorant, stupid mouth shut.</p>
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		<title>By: Kavita</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5105#comment-68425</link>
		<dc:creator>Kavita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2015 16:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SD, he likes to do religious cleaning jobs!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SD, he likes to do religious cleaning jobs!</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
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		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2015 15:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am not into religious bed hopping.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not into religious bed hopping.</p>
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		<title>By: simond</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5105#comment-68421</link>
		<dc:creator>simond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2015 14:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lokesh,

I don&#039;t fully understand your antipathy to the words of Osho? 

Surely in the years you were around him you also read his books and/or listened to his words?

Didn&#039;t you read and study him? Didn&#039;t his ideas as well as his presence help alter your view of Life?

My own experience is that his words deeply affected me. The words, the ideas and the insights he shared altered my view. As I read him so I questioned, was occasionally confused by his meaning and on many occasions was awakened and delighted by his insight.

Of course I needed to practise these ideas and insights in real life, and it is life that ultimately teaches us or shows us what&#039;s true and real, no book can surpass the reality of Life etc. The words are meaningless unless we make sense of them for ourselves. 

Didn&#039;t many people gain real help via his books? 
Wasn&#039;t that in most cases how they were first introduced to him at all?

One final question, do you recognise that those who never saw or spoke with Osho can find something of value in his books? 

Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lokesh,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t fully understand your antipathy to the words of Osho? </p>
<p>Surely in the years you were around him you also read his books and/or listened to his words?</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t you read and study him? Didn&#8217;t his ideas as well as his presence help alter your view of Life?</p>
<p>My own experience is that his words deeply affected me. The words, the ideas and the insights he shared altered my view. As I read him so I questioned, was occasionally confused by his meaning and on many occasions was awakened and delighted by his insight.</p>
<p>Of course I needed to practise these ideas and insights in real life, and it is life that ultimately teaches us or shows us what&#8217;s true and real, no book can surpass the reality of Life etc. The words are meaningless unless we make sense of them for ourselves. </p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t many people gain real help via his books?<br />
Wasn&#8217;t that in most cases how they were first introduced to him at all?</p>
<p>One final question, do you recognise that those who never saw or spoke with Osho can find something of value in his books? </p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5105#comment-68420</link>
		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2015 13:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Currently in north of Scotland, where, believe it or not, I have just signed up for a wee job that looks like a lot of hard work. Fortunately, I feel like a bit of hard work and not only that, beautiful sunny weather. Be prepared, plan for a miracle, right enough.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Currently in north of Scotland, where, believe it or not, I have just signed up for a wee job that looks like a lot of hard work. Fortunately, I feel like a bit of hard work and not only that, beautiful sunny weather. Be prepared, plan for a miracle, right enough.</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5105#comment-68419</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2015 13:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shantam, you&#039;ll dredge up anything, any old irrelevant nonsense to avoid even looking at questions you sense are somehow too &#039;threatening&#039;. But I doubt you even realise that&#039;s what you do. So, as simond says, unfortunately it would seem a waste of time and energy trying to communicate at that level.

Which, of course,  isn&#039;t to say that we wouldn&#039;t necessarily &#039;get on&#039; (as it were) if meeting up for a cup of tea etc...

As for Ibiza, well, I&#039;d like to go there one day, but no chance for at least the next few months. 

Tell you what:
I&#039;ll agree to meet you in Ibiza, some time - if you agree to &#039;meet&#039; Meera one weekend (ie three sessions). 

So...deal or no deal?!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shantam, you&#8217;ll dredge up anything, any old irrelevant nonsense to avoid even looking at questions you sense are somehow too &#8216;threatening&#8217;. But I doubt you even realise that&#8217;s what you do. So, as simond says, unfortunately it would seem a waste of time and energy trying to communicate at that level.</p>
<p>Which, of course,  isn&#8217;t to say that we wouldn&#8217;t necessarily &#8216;get on&#8217; (as it were) if meeting up for a cup of tea etc&#8230;</p>
<p>As for Ibiza, well, I&#8217;d like to go there one day, but no chance for at least the next few months. </p>
<p>Tell you what:<br />
I&#8217;ll agree to meet you in Ibiza, some time &#8211; if you agree to &#8216;meet&#8217; Meera one weekend (ie three sessions). </p>
<p>So&#8230;deal or no deal?!!</p>
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