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You completely miss the point, Arpana. This specific issue is not about Osho’s work in general, how many people he helped and how much in any individual case, or whether he’ll influence the people of the future, it concerns the degree of responsibility he had for the failure of the Oregon commune.

As I’ve said, you take any criticism of Osho far too personally, as if you yourself are somehow being threatened.

Another slant on the topic is that Osho, as the inspiration for thousands to create the Ranch as his vast commune, was therefore given credit for how well the whole extraordinary enterprise seemed to be going. Consequently, as is common in the normal, ‘straight’ business world, he should, at least in a certain measure, carry the can for its collapse. Why should his project not be subject to the same standards as those of ‘normal’ organisations?

If you refuse to see this then, as I said, you’re allowing purely personal (ie emotional) concerns to blur your clarity of perception.

http://en.textsave.org/5R0b

I think we have missed an obvious clue here. Clearly, one name pops up over and over again.
Someone who could spend time unnoticed in white cricketing flannels whilst all around was a sea of red.
Someone who could throw a googly and smile benignly to the crowd, claiming that it was merely a lumpy pitch that had not been properly rollered.
Someone who, whilst advancing the cause of freedom of speech in his apparently quite ordinary daily life as a newspaper tycoon had actually, and suspiciously, never been moderated even by a traffic warden, so had no idea of what dastardly restrictions could feel like for those who fell foul of an Orwellian model of double, double-speak in the printed media.

For truly, had not that infamous ranch also been subject to the largest case of eavesdropping at tea-time that the western world had ever seen? When one takes into account the presence of a wheelbarrow in nearly every photograph of the Master’s Rolls-Royces, which later were airbrushed out of publicity photos, do all these seemingly disconnected facts point only to one name?

For what other newspaper in Christendom has devoted itself so completely to something that happened over 265 years ago? Someone who has a vested interest in digging things up and turning them over, season after season. A person who has received Camden Borough’s Honorary Story Recycling award by simply re-arranging the headlines? The Jeremy Kyle of Sannyasidom?

For here is the evidence…I rest my case…
http://www.sportskeeda.com/cricket/sherlock-holmes-cricket-connect

For example, choosing to believe in Osho bearing no responsibility for the Ranch debacle (and in some cases, actually believing he ‘planned’ all that happened, for his own inscrutable – naturally! – purposes) as a means of protecting and preserving a ‘comforting’ (to the little ‘self’) image of the all-powerful master.

Simply finding any such realistic criticism of the master not only uncomfortable but ‘inconvenient’, as it can tend to dilute the sense of being connected to an all-knowing, ‘all-powerful’ source, which some apparently need to believe for the sake of their inner equilibrium, to help them through life’s stormy waters.

The basic error here is to expect ‘perfection’ in all dimensions other than inner consciousness, which Arpana himself has expounded upon.

So why exactly does he get so upset at suggestions Osho got things wrong in the U.S. venture, choosing to interpret this as blanket condemnation rather than realistic appraisal? Seems rather odd, an over-sensitive reaction – a clear case of purely personal emotional concerns overriding rationality.

Frankly, for me to hear his Poona 2 series of discourses in White Robe was very painful & infact I don’t watch or hear those discourses any more.

I can relate to Osho as well as Lokesh & also my own experiences now and see that there is always more than one side to every story. & in many ways that has made me very cautious in making a lot of my life decisions.

And I won`t be the first to say that to consider the possibility that you may be a mental health case is often the first sign of sanity.

You’ve more or less highlighted a major reason why the whole enterprise failed, Kavita!

Stupidity, overwhelming arrogance (not to mention an implicit belief in Osho’s ‘infallibilty’ ensuring success) and a consequent wilful ignorance of the realities of what they were up against meant inevitable crisis and ultimate, ignominious defeat. For which, as I’ve outlined, Osho has to bear some responsibility.

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