here more about the resort politicians

http://www.dhyanleela.com/pdf/Rebel%20interview.pdf

i don´t belong to these extra smart spiritually awakened beings, just being one in the crowd of extra ordinary human beings, i wish to say, ” Marry Christmas, friends.”

Whether or not Osho Dhara is really created out of pushing away devotion is not of concern to me. I was trying to make the general point that this will occur. It looks to me like people at Osho Dhara would have lost the plot regardless. Funny thing is that because of the pitiful situation in Pune, places like Osho Dhara actually look half descent to many people reacting to the Pune resort.

Kranti let us have a look at the issues of what Osho has handed down as a things to do list. Your quote about Osho wanting a resort is well worn. You have quoted it, and I have responded. My response is based on the following. People (including you) have argued that they are simply following Osho’s instructions in doing this and that. In response I have said that actually you are not following Osho’s instructions to the letter. What you are doing is choosing certain aspects that you like, and implementing them.

Kranti take a look at what you have just said in response to my statement about musical instruments. In this case you simply say that it is a metaphor for freedom. Granted I agree, however I also take the statement in its literal sense too. The problem you have here is that you (and the Gang) will argue that some items on Osho’s to do with list are literal and not open to compromise or change. Other things are non-essential, and still other things are actually metaphoric rather than literal. Do you not see that this is your interpretation, and unless you are setting up your own Osho centre, you have no right to impose your interpretation on other people. Of course if other people like what you have done, they will come and enjoy your centre. The current Inner-Circle and Pune Management team did not have the right to do this.

A simple example of the way you (and others) interpret Osho, and then try and impose that interpretation on others is as follows. You have created a false category called Osho personality – as I previously described. You then place a picture of Osho into this category. You have a certain way of looking at Osho’s picture. After a while, rather than look at Osho’s picture you started looking inside. It is your current understanding that the picture of Osho was an avoidance of yourself. Meditation is the essential stuff, and after a while you dropped Osho’s picture and went into meditation.

Your anecdote is clouded in confusion. Firstly you may be of a deep misunderstanding about your own situation. It may well be that looking at the picture of a Master became the constant and subtle motivation to in time look inside yourself. I would argue that looking at a Master is not like looking at a picture of your favourite Bollywood star. Also, and here is the important misinterpretation, you consider that all other people will look at an Osho picture the way you do. However I would say that for many people, looking into the eyes of Osho is a deep meditation. There are many meditations that start off this way, whether it is staring at some object, or into the eyes of another person, or into a mirror. The outer object becomes the mirror into your self. The outer is the motivation and trigger for inner experiencing. Hence Kranti you may be wrongly misunderstanding yourself, but in the least are projecting your way of viewing things onto other people. This is arrogant.

Have a look at what you have said about the issue of musical instruments. You say “Not sure Abhay.. I am not talking about….” It becomes so clear here what your trip is. The problem is that it is not you who is doing the talking here. It is Osho that has made a statement, and you quoted it. Afterwards you tell me “I am not talking about” this or that. Kranti, with respect to Osho’s legacy or vision, I am not really interested in what you are talking about with respect to what Osho talked about. This is your interpretation or misinterpretation. Of course at least you (and I) become aware of your views of what Osho said. In this way we can move forward in exchange. Unfortunately others are not so humble and honest.

Kranti you wonder if the mess is just a transition phase. Mess is always a transition, else beauty and creative and abundance would not be.

Shantam, the Gang have created a good scam. It works well in a corrupt country like India. In this way the first reason that people have not responded is because of doubt. I mean the place still (almost) looks like an oasis. Of course the primary reason people do not respond is fear. Have a look at any dictatorial society. It is run with force and opposition is shut down by causing fear.

Amhadinejad (the president of Iran) said in a recent interview to an American station that the people of Iran are much freer than Americans. This would be laughable if it were not for the brutal crack-downs that are happening in recent times. They rule with force and a climate of fear. He also said that after recent events (opposition up-rising supposedly instigated by the West) Iran is now ten times stronger. The country is in ruins and is deeply divided at all levels, yet he still creates fictions and fear. This is the way of those obsessed by power. This is the way of the Gang.

Doubt is conquered by knowing truth.
Fear is conquered by becoming fearless.

Those that grip and wield power at any cost
are in truth deeply powerless.

Those that contract in fear
are at least not stupid.

Those that live in fear
shall in time reach their natural state
of individual self power.

It is a collective drama.

Yahoo
Abhay

“After Osho’s demise, for seven years the spiritual path illuminated by him engulfed in the dark. With Osho Shailendra’s enlightenment the illumination has returned. I had likened to compare this with the course of Nile River which originates in east Africa, traverses several kilometres and then disappears underground only to resurface again and resume its seaward journey. Oshodhara represents the resurfacing of the stream of Osho’s teachings.”

it means, those who are not joining Oshodhara are the blind people who are taking bath in a dry river abd therefore wasting their life.

and boasting goes further-
“Oshodhara is the latest mystery school where meditation is taught, practiced and researched on scientific lines. Osho Siddhartha is a trained scientist. Drawing from his scientific background, Osho’s vast reservoir of spiritual knowledge, and his own direct experience of God, Osho Siddhartha has chiseled out a technology for step by step progressing towards the ultimate spiritual experience. It could not have been simpler than that. People in large numbers are benefiting from the Dhyan Samadhi programs developed here. The number of those experiencing enlightenment after passing through these programs is growing.”

What a compassion, refining Osho through scientific distillary.

The ads on the side lines of XXX sites, where they make men genitals 4 inches longer in 4 weeks come no where closer to these people.