Btw, the meditation quote is Osho’s, placing him on the same level as, and I quote El Chudo, Indian Brahmins and pundits – just borrowed knowledge, as he so rghtly says.

For the last 5000 years from the time Bhagavad Gita* was published, Indian Brahmins and pundits are speaking such sentences on daily basis. Till today, dozens of TV evangelists feel great in their seat when they speak about ‘beyond the mind’ thing through their mind.

( *Incidentally, the mother oraganisation of PM Modi has the plan to push government to declare Bhagavad Gita as National Book. If that happens, I may think seriously to change my nationality).

More than 15 years I have spent in the day-to-day company of few hundred people. They may not be perfect, they may have been in conflict with each other, but these few hundred people came to Osho with one-way ticket. These people did not have any other visiting card than being an Osho disciple.

Few people of my age group are earning in millions or are prominent politicians and bureaucrats; we all play some game in life: few win, few lose.

Same is the game with collective endeavours: few leave marks, few end up like Nokia!

Good start is not enough!

He continues to blurt, “I try to bridge the gulf…”…yawn…Never was much of a Simon and Garfunkel fan myself, but for those of you who are, 1…2…3…
“Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down.”

In other words, desist from judging others according to your own level of incapacity: hiding behind the convenient rationalisation/excuse that ‘Oh, it’s all just far too deep, far too advanced for me – therefore, surely, for anyone’ – thus neatly circumventing any feelings of jealousy/inferiority, while making others into little more than ignorant hypocrites.

You see, Shantam, you and your self-deluding motivations are transparent – except, of course, to your ever-deluded self.

Also, I recommend you desist from commenting on the collective organisation of a movement of individuals, one of the key purposes of which you have no knowledge or experience of, no enthusiasm for or even interest in.

As I intimated recently, God save us from ignorant, damaged people attaching themselves to or inventing ‘great causes’ out of a misplaced sense of “sacred duty”, in order to escape from their own painful predicaments.

The greater the one-pointed, blind fanaticism, the greater the probability that nothing good will come out of it, with a high likelihood of disastrous consequences for all concerned.

http://youtu.be/65JafIEbZeE (not strictly relevant, apart from the title, but a good song anyway!)

Interestingly enough, spokespersons of both the groups have exactly the same logic, “Communication is not possible. They are not meditators.”

Westerners who started reading Indian mysticism or spent few months/years in India on tourist visa also have the similar mind, they think meditation is the name of the grass grown by their ancestors for centuries. Therefore so much unnecessary stress on the word meditation!

This is the reason why Lokesh and Satya Deva talk about meditation, I feel someone is spiting on the Taj Mahal. They have no depth, no wisdom, just borrowed knowledge. They should really meditate on a simple maxim, ‘Money speaks, Wealth whispers.’

I suggest you at least try to grasp this as otherwise it’s yet more evidence that your self-important “sacred duty” re how Sannyas should be organised is just ignorant hogwash.

I mean, at least make an attempt to actually understand the basis of what you want to ‘organise’!