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		<title>By: prem martyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>prem martyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 12:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chetas... life is one long taxi ride...

and one-2-one in Stockholm.....
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http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/taxi-company-offers-passengers-free-incar-therapy-sessions--e1802Sip8e]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chetas&#8230; life is one long taxi ride&#8230;</p>
<p>and one-2-one in Stockholm&#8230;..<br />
.. </p>
<p><a href="http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/taxi-company-offers-passengers-free-incar-therapy-sessions--e1802Sip8e" rel="nofollow">http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/taxi-company-offers-passengers-free-incar-therapy-sessions&#8211;e1802Sip8e</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chetas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chetas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 11:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, SD, so true about being overwhelmed about something. The forehead does not work. I think Osho’s intention (a hard master) was that even if I am fully in emotion, anger or love etc, I still need to be conscious - not fair at all. It so hard to be in feelings or so hard to be conscious, but to be in feelings AND conscious. Almost impossible. For me.  

Arps, it sounds like you understood something deep about Buddha’s “accepting awareness” in very complex situations. With Osho it seems to be an end result, not something you try. That’s why catharsis is there. But you know that so well. 

Martyn, you said it, a hand-written letter, carefully carried out by a postman to the receiver is such a rare happening these days, it only happens rarely.
 
I was once almost thrown out from Humaniversity  (long time ago) for being reactive. They explained to me in many different ways, actually in a very loving and calm way, to get the issue through to me. It looks like being a lifelong learning for me, and, of course, for all of us. You can always come sideways, which is more difficult to deal with. So, that was years ago, but unlike Lokesh, I actually got awareness from Hum. more than expression. But, perhaps that was what you needed to do and feel what it does for you.

The original story (about the telephone company) is a bit interesting, I think, because it got so much attention. I had already accepted the ”defeat” before. It was not what they (telephone company) wanted to do in the beginning, but now today they just send me a message I can return my phone etc. and close the deal. Happy ending for me.

I have moved to the countryside. Every day I light the fire and it keeps me wondering what’s the best way, what’s the best way to make it warm the house. Also, should I learn to cut my own trees or wait for some man to do it and just buy the wood now?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, SD, so true about being overwhelmed about something. The forehead does not work. I think Osho’s intention (a hard master) was that even if I am fully in emotion, anger or love etc, I still need to be conscious &#8211; not fair at all. It so hard to be in feelings or so hard to be conscious, but to be in feelings AND conscious. Almost impossible. For me.  </p>
<p>Arps, it sounds like you understood something deep about Buddha’s “accepting awareness” in very complex situations. With Osho it seems to be an end result, not something you try. That’s why catharsis is there. But you know that so well. </p>
<p>Martyn, you said it, a hand-written letter, carefully carried out by a postman to the receiver is such a rare happening these days, it only happens rarely.</p>
<p>I was once almost thrown out from Humaniversity  (long time ago) for being reactive. They explained to me in many different ways, actually in a very loving and calm way, to get the issue through to me. It looks like being a lifelong learning for me, and, of course, for all of us. You can always come sideways, which is more difficult to deal with. So, that was years ago, but unlike Lokesh, I actually got awareness from Hum. more than expression. But, perhaps that was what you needed to do and feel what it does for you.</p>
<p>The original story (about the telephone company) is a bit interesting, I think, because it got so much attention. I had already accepted the ”defeat” before. It was not what they (telephone company) wanted to do in the beginning, but now today they just send me a message I can return my phone etc. and close the deal. Happy ending for me.</p>
<p>I have moved to the countryside. Every day I light the fire and it keeps me wondering what’s the best way, what’s the best way to make it warm the house. Also, should I learn to cut my own trees or wait for some man to do it and just buy the wood now?</p>
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		<title>By: prem martyn</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/4292#comment-63561</link>
		<dc:creator>prem martyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 11:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bothered? Annoyed? Furious? Incandescent? Purpurescent? Or just plain autistic?

This article might help...or it might make you wince, snarl, choke, splutter and yell before throwing the laptop at the wall...

Take twice a day before breathing...

http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/inside-the-mind/emotions/anger1.htm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bothered? Annoyed? Furious? Incandescent? Purpurescent? Or just plain autistic?</p>
<p>This article might help&#8230;or it might make you wince, snarl, choke, splutter and yell before throwing the laptop at the wall&#8230;</p>
<p>Take twice a day before breathing&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/inside-the-mind/emotions/anger1.htm" rel="nofollow">http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/inside-the-mind/emotions/anger1.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: prem martyn</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/4292#comment-63559</link>
		<dc:creator>prem martyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 10:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the memorable recent times the planet vented its tsunami-size pissed-offness was at Fuk-u-shima.

Luckily, the authorities had already planned to teach the planet a lesson in the event of, by building a nuclear power station by the sea, on a fault line.

And Now for some Zen poetry...

Sitting by sea-side,
The water glistens with light
At night
Because of the glowing plutonium.
Hooray.
Let&#039;s get outtahere.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the memorable recent times the planet vented its tsunami-size pissed-offness was at Fuk-u-shima.</p>
<p>Luckily, the authorities had already planned to teach the planet a lesson in the event of, by building a nuclear power station by the sea, on a fault line.</p>
<p>And Now for some Zen poetry&#8230;</p>
<p>Sitting by sea-side,<br />
The water glistens with light<br />
At night<br />
Because of the glowing plutonium.<br />
Hooray.<br />
Let&#8217;s get outtahere.</p>
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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 08:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Martyn says, &quot;Typical bloody universe, wasn’t happy with planets and gas…it had to invent people – how selfish of it.&quot;

Precisely. Our planet needs us to help create a biological membrane on its surface in order to form an interplanetary telephone link. Totally selfish! These planets do nothing but gossip all day and slag off lesser memebers of the galaxy, like the moon, just because they have not progressed to interplanetary communication. Shameless!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martyn says, &#8220;Typical bloody universe, wasn’t happy with planets and gas…it had to invent people – how selfish of it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Precisely. Our planet needs us to help create a biological membrane on its surface in order to form an interplanetary telephone link. Totally selfish! These planets do nothing but gossip all day and slag off lesser memebers of the galaxy, like the moon, just because they have not progressed to interplanetary communication. Shameless!</p>
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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 08:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let me tell you this, Rabwan C Nesbit is wano Scotland&#039;s greatest mistakes...oops, I mean mystics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me tell you this, Rabwan C Nesbit is wano Scotland&#8217;s greatest mistakes&#8230;oops, I mean mystics.</p>
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		<title>By: Prem</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/4292#comment-63554</link>
		<dc:creator>Prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 06:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Repression and expression are two sides of the same coin.

Catharsis without awareness is just getting into an endless cycle of catharsis.

It catharsis worked, then the Heavy Metal Rock fans would be the most enlightened people on Earth. Instead, they simply connect to a collective level of vibration based on anger which is really low.

Dynamic Meditation is so much more than catharsis. It has 10 minutes of catharsis, but this is just a small part of the meditation.
Osho emphasized about dynamic:
“This is a meditation in which you have to be continuously alert, conscious, aware, whatsoever you do. Remain a witness. Don’t get lost. While you are breathing you can forget. You can become one with the breathing so much that you can forget the witness. But then you miss the point.

“This witnessing has to be carried in all the three steps. And when everything stops, and in the fourth step you have become completely inactive, frozen, then this alertness will come to its peak.” 


But people forget this part.

In Dynamic Meditation, the chaotic breathing, catharsis, jumping and shouting “hoo” — is the Dynamic part — and witnessing all this, remaining a witness is the Meditation part.

Catharsis alone does not work without awareness, it just creates a vicious circle.

Of course, for people who are repressed, it is better to express than to repress.

But there is a middle point — neither repressing, nor expressing – witnessing the emotions.
Witnessing the emotions, the emotions quiet down.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Repression and expression are two sides of the same coin.</p>
<p>Catharsis without awareness is just getting into an endless cycle of catharsis.</p>
<p>It catharsis worked, then the Heavy Metal Rock fans would be the most enlightened people on Earth. Instead, they simply connect to a collective level of vibration based on anger which is really low.</p>
<p>Dynamic Meditation is so much more than catharsis. It has 10 minutes of catharsis, but this is just a small part of the meditation.<br />
Osho emphasized about dynamic:<br />
“This is a meditation in which you have to be continuously alert, conscious, aware, whatsoever you do. Remain a witness. Don’t get lost. While you are breathing you can forget. You can become one with the breathing so much that you can forget the witness. But then you miss the point.</p>
<p>“This witnessing has to be carried in all the three steps. And when everything stops, and in the fourth step you have become completely inactive, frozen, then this alertness will come to its peak.” </p>
<p>But people forget this part.</p>
<p>In Dynamic Meditation, the chaotic breathing, catharsis, jumping and shouting “hoo” — is the Dynamic part — and witnessing all this, remaining a witness is the Meditation part.</p>
<p>Catharsis alone does not work without awareness, it just creates a vicious circle.</p>
<p>Of course, for people who are repressed, it is better to express than to repress.</p>
<p>But there is a middle point — neither repressing, nor expressing – witnessing the emotions.<br />
Witnessing the emotions, the emotions quiet down.</p>
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		<title>By: Kavita</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/4292#comment-63552</link>
		<dc:creator>Kavita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 03:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wonder if this Swami Anand Yogi has gone through Swami Shantam&#039;s biometric authentication   &amp;  x-ray machine!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonder if this Swami Anand Yogi has gone through Swami Shantam&#8217;s biometric authentication   &amp;  x-ray machine!</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/4292#comment-63550</link>
		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2014 21:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello, Doctor on the Dip, where have I criticised and mocked a genuine seeker like Dhyan Siddharth? 
You are holding wrong pulse, man! 

I remember a story about the gutsy Sannyas woman. Before doctor puts her in sleep for breast amputation, she made it clear in a clear tone, &quot;Cancer is in this breast and not the other one. So be careful.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, Doctor on the Dip, where have I criticised and mocked a genuine seeker like Dhyan Siddharth?<br />
You are holding wrong pulse, man! </p>
<p>I remember a story about the gutsy Sannyas woman. Before doctor puts her in sleep for breast amputation, she made it clear in a clear tone, &#8220;Cancer is in this breast and not the other one. So be careful.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/4292#comment-63549</link>
		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2014 21:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When someone looks at my girlfriend with lust in the eyes, I get angry, very angry.

But I don´t get angry when someone indulges in corruption in my country or in my religious organisation; there, I am watcher on the hill.

Thus spoke Swami Fucksutra!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When someone looks at my girlfriend with lust in the eyes, I get angry, very angry.</p>
<p>But I don´t get angry when someone indulges in corruption in my country or in my religious organisation; there, I am watcher on the hill.</p>
<p>Thus spoke Swami Fucksutra!</p>
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