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		<title>By: dhyan siddharth</title>
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		<dc:creator>dhyan siddharth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 03:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, Satyadeva, you are right. In the 2nd stage I mean deep breathing and not chaotic breathing. In the 1st stage the breath hits the sex centre for sure, but as you said it is an individual process, so it does not mean that all the time it has to hit the sex centre.
 
Also in the 2nd stage, I suggest to make the body tense, face tense to touch the unconscious, no relaxing. in relaxation the unconscious won&#039;t be touched. Maybe conscious mind tensions can be released, but again it does not mean you must be tense all the time.

To open up the body is the key, then flow and I always suggest to move more and more energy to the body, until it takes over.

It is a play with the body in its peak energy and so it thrills me every time.

I love this sharing of dynamic by all of us.

Thank you, Osho.

Siddharth]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Satyadeva, you are right. In the 2nd stage I mean deep breathing and not chaotic breathing. In the 1st stage the breath hits the sex centre for sure, but as you said it is an individual process, so it does not mean that all the time it has to hit the sex centre.</p>
<p>Also in the 2nd stage, I suggest to make the body tense, face tense to touch the unconscious, no relaxing. in relaxation the unconscious won&#8217;t be touched. Maybe conscious mind tensions can be released, but again it does not mean you must be tense all the time.</p>
<p>To open up the body is the key, then flow and I always suggest to move more and more energy to the body, until it takes over.</p>
<p>It is a play with the body in its peak energy and so it thrills me every time.</p>
<p>I love this sharing of dynamic by all of us.</p>
<p>Thank you, Osho.</p>
<p>Siddharth</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2014 10:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting post, Siddharth, thanks for taking the trouble. Queries re your points 1 and 2 though. 

Re 1, I don&#039;t see how the chaotic breathing needs to be done from the sex centre, although yes, it&#039;s supposed to be deep, not shallow. Perhaps that&#039;s what you&#039;re emphaseming - er, sorry, emphasising?!

As for 2, I assume you don&#039;t recommend chaotic breathing in the cathartic stage, but deep breathing if/when &#039;stuck&#039; what to do (as it were)? My experience was if the first stage had been done totally - &quot;until you feel you&#039;re dying, then more&quot;, as I recall someone once urged we beginners back in &#039;73 - then the second stage pretty well took care of itself. 

As well as simply doing gibberish with body movements, a useful option in that stage if &#039;nothing&#039; seems to be happening is just to gently allow your body to move however it wishes, without forcing anything, ie as in latihan, co-operating with it, as it were. 

In fact, this can be an individual stand-alone process/meditation in itself, independent of a formal dynamic, yet very cleansing, liberating. Somendra (now Michael Barnett) used to call it &#039;Doctor Body&#039; and rated it more powerful than any other bodywork method, including bio-energetics, tai chi and, I believe, even dynamic itself! The beauty of it is that it can be done for any period of time one wishes, from a few minutes to half an hour or longer. All you need is a space where making a bit of noise is ok.

(Anyone know such a place in north London, for example?! And/or fancy a regular session of &#039;Dr. Body&#039;? No double entendres, please, Martyn, btw!).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post, Siddharth, thanks for taking the trouble. Queries re your points 1 and 2 though. </p>
<p>Re 1, I don&#8217;t see how the chaotic breathing needs to be done from the sex centre, although yes, it&#8217;s supposed to be deep, not shallow. Perhaps that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re emphaseming &#8211; er, sorry, emphasising?!</p>
<p>As for 2, I assume you don&#8217;t recommend chaotic breathing in the cathartic stage, but deep breathing if/when &#8216;stuck&#8217; what to do (as it were)? My experience was if the first stage had been done totally &#8211; &#8220;until you feel you&#8217;re dying, then more&#8221;, as I recall someone once urged we beginners back in &#8217;73 &#8211; then the second stage pretty well took care of itself. </p>
<p>As well as simply doing gibberish with body movements, a useful option in that stage if &#8216;nothing&#8217; seems to be happening is just to gently allow your body to move however it wishes, without forcing anything, ie as in latihan, co-operating with it, as it were. </p>
<p>In fact, this can be an individual stand-alone process/meditation in itself, independent of a formal dynamic, yet very cleansing, liberating. Somendra (now Michael Barnett) used to call it &#8216;Doctor Body&#8217; and rated it more powerful than any other bodywork method, including bio-energetics, tai chi and, I believe, even dynamic itself! The beauty of it is that it can be done for any period of time one wishes, from a few minutes to half an hour or longer. All you need is a space where making a bit of noise is ok.</p>
<p>(Anyone know such a place in north London, for example?! And/or fancy a regular session of &#8216;Dr. Body&#8217;? No double entendres, please, Martyn, btw!).</p>
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		<title>By: dhyan siddharth</title>
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		<dc:creator>dhyan siddharth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear friends,

Just I want to quote few things OSHO is saying about DYNAMIC.

1. Do it from sex centre, hit it by breath in the first stage.
2. Continue the deep breathing hit while you are in catharsis. Catharsis means expressing yourself, bringing out yourself, without all masks and pretentions.
3. Go mad consciously, enter into chaotic stage, so your mind gets confused and stops and your body takes over.
4. Let the &#039;hoo&#039; come from sex centre, jump to help it and fill your whole body with &quot;HOO&quot;.

I do lots of dynamic, at least 3 days in a week, rejoicing the beauty of it, and lots of people who are afraid of doing Dynamic are enjoying it now with me. I do few things before dynamic to prepare the body to enter into the chaos and to give its full energy to go mad consciously.

It is really a Master&#039;s piece and a wonderful magic given by OSHO to come back to the body and rejoice the miracles of it and then cross over it also.

Though I do it for long time, still every day it opens new experiences of the body, I fell into the yin-yong and then into the silent centre beyond it etc. etc.
After the first breath it is an opening of a world beyond mind.

So all sicknesses will go in it and I have seen it helped many and for sure it helped me a lot in all my journey to become free from mind, free from body - first from its illnesses and then from it, opening of the heart, getting expanded, feeling the hara, feeling the earth and sky meeting in me and so on...

Nothing wrong in expressing, analysing and sharing the experiences of dynamic. But it is just a sharing. Not a dogma or rule or definition of it. It may be just a tip to trigger the other to do the dynamic. That&#039;s all for me. Rest you get when you do it totally.

I have done it first in 1975. It is very difficult at that time of my young age. But now at 60 I am rejoicing it completely. My journey of dynamic is not mine, it has to be called &#039;journey of dynamic on a weak body-mind personality and change him to his peak potentiality, to a rejoicing friend&#039;.

My preparation exercises are all different kinds of breathing, shaking only. It clears the path and warms you up to jump into dynamic. That&#039;s all.

Thank you, Osho.

Siddharth]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear friends,</p>
<p>Just I want to quote few things OSHO is saying about DYNAMIC.</p>
<p>1. Do it from sex centre, hit it by breath in the first stage.<br />
2. Continue the deep breathing hit while you are in catharsis. Catharsis means expressing yourself, bringing out yourself, without all masks and pretentions.<br />
3. Go mad consciously, enter into chaotic stage, so your mind gets confused and stops and your body takes over.<br />
4. Let the &#8216;hoo&#8217; come from sex centre, jump to help it and fill your whole body with &#8220;HOO&#8221;.</p>
<p>I do lots of dynamic, at least 3 days in a week, rejoicing the beauty of it, and lots of people who are afraid of doing Dynamic are enjoying it now with me. I do few things before dynamic to prepare the body to enter into the chaos and to give its full energy to go mad consciously.</p>
<p>It is really a Master&#8217;s piece and a wonderful magic given by OSHO to come back to the body and rejoice the miracles of it and then cross over it also.</p>
<p>Though I do it for long time, still every day it opens new experiences of the body, I fell into the yin-yong and then into the silent centre beyond it etc. etc.<br />
After the first breath it is an opening of a world beyond mind.</p>
<p>So all sicknesses will go in it and I have seen it helped many and for sure it helped me a lot in all my journey to become free from mind, free from body &#8211; first from its illnesses and then from it, opening of the heart, getting expanded, feeling the hara, feeling the earth and sky meeting in me and so on&#8230;</p>
<p>Nothing wrong in expressing, analysing and sharing the experiences of dynamic. But it is just a sharing. Not a dogma or rule or definition of it. It may be just a tip to trigger the other to do the dynamic. That&#8217;s all for me. Rest you get when you do it totally.</p>
<p>I have done it first in 1975. It is very difficult at that time of my young age. But now at 60 I am rejoicing it completely. My journey of dynamic is not mine, it has to be called &#8216;journey of dynamic on a weak body-mind personality and change him to his peak potentiality, to a rejoicing friend&#8217;.</p>
<p>My preparation exercises are all different kinds of breathing, shaking only. It clears the path and warms you up to jump into dynamic. That&#8217;s all.</p>
<p>Thank you, Osho.</p>
<p>Siddharth</p>
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		<title>By: Ashok</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2014 21:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Given the pervasive tone of equanimity and common sense that are apparent in your reply, Madhu, I shall give you the benefit of the doubt regarding the answers you have graciously provided to my comments and queries, and will therefore accept that you are being honest and sincere at this time.

Furthermore, might I be so bold as to suggest that the simple, clear and generally precise writing manner you have employed on this occasion, be adopted in all your future communications to SN. This change of approach I believe, would be of great benefit to both yourself and others here. 

I hope you will not think of me as being impertinent for making such a suggestion, but will receive it instead, metaphorically speaking, as my extending an olive branch in your direction, to reconcile what has been in the past a rather troubled and difficult relationship!

With very best wishes,

Ashok]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the pervasive tone of equanimity and common sense that are apparent in your reply, Madhu, I shall give you the benefit of the doubt regarding the answers you have graciously provided to my comments and queries, and will therefore accept that you are being honest and sincere at this time.</p>
<p>Furthermore, might I be so bold as to suggest that the simple, clear and generally precise writing manner you have employed on this occasion, be adopted in all your future communications to SN. This change of approach I believe, would be of great benefit to both yourself and others here. </p>
<p>I hope you will not think of me as being impertinent for making such a suggestion, but will receive it instead, metaphorically speaking, as my extending an olive branch in your direction, to reconcile what has been in the past a rather troubled and difficult relationship!</p>
<p>With very best wishes,</p>
<p>Ashok</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
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		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2014 20:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s a key discourse, well found indeed, sir.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a key discourse, well found indeed, sir.</p>
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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2014 19:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Parmartha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parmartha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2014 19:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a mixed and sometimes critical appreciation of Wilhelm Reich.  

I can&#039;t find the reference but one remembers Osho saying that the dynamic meditation first three stages were partly influenced by Reich.  However, as I understand it, the third stage was an adapted old Sufi exercise? Anyone know more?

A group of sannyasins tried to make a Reichian orgone box in Pune 2 - with the approval of the then Inner Circle.  Their account of it does seem tending strange!  If you reach the end of their story, one might say it is what it deserved.  

Here is the account:
http://www.oshonews.com/2013/09/orgone-accumulator-egg/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a mixed and sometimes critical appreciation of Wilhelm Reich.  </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t find the reference but one remembers Osho saying that the dynamic meditation first three stages were partly influenced by Reich.  However, as I understand it, the third stage was an adapted old Sufi exercise? Anyone know more?</p>
<p>A group of sannyasins tried to make a Reichian orgone box in Pune 2 &#8211; with the approval of the then Inner Circle.  Their account of it does seem tending strange!  If you reach the end of their story, one might say it is what it deserved.  </p>
<p>Here is the account:<br />
<a href="http://www.oshonews.com/2013/09/orgone-accumulator-egg/" rel="nofollow">http://www.oshonews.com/2013/09/orgone-accumulator-egg/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Prem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2014 13:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just do dynamic every day and you won&#039;t need therapists like &#039;Hara-Anando&#039; and their psychological babble.

Therapists are like priests, they want to convince you that you need them, so they tend to overcomplicate simple things, just to give you the impression: &quot;this is complicated, you need a therapist to help you&quot;.

Dynamic meditation is like Nike: &quot;Just do it!&quot;

Of course, if you get into a mental pattern and you do dynamic the same way every time, you need to be aware this is a mental pattern. Dynamic will be different each time you do it, if you do it right, chaotically - not rhythmically. 

Other than that, no need for psycho-babble.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just do dynamic every day and you won&#8217;t need therapists like &#8216;Hara-Anando&#8217; and their psychological babble.</p>
<p>Therapists are like priests, they want to convince you that you need them, so they tend to overcomplicate simple things, just to give you the impression: &#8220;this is complicated, you need a therapist to help you&#8221;.</p>
<p>Dynamic meditation is like Nike: &#8220;Just do it!&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, if you get into a mental pattern and you do dynamic the same way every time, you need to be aware this is a mental pattern. Dynamic will be different each time you do it, if you do it right, chaotically &#8211; not rhythmically. </p>
<p>Other than that, no need for psycho-babble.</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
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		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2014 11:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Parmartha, for this video. Watching this is like watching projections.

If I am a chairman of Osho Foundation Multinational, be sure, such people will be invited regularly for stand-up comedies during Osho festivals.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Parmartha, for this video. Watching this is like watching projections.</p>
<p>If I am a chairman of Osho Foundation Multinational, be sure, such people will be invited regularly for stand-up comedies during Osho festivals.</p>
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		<title>By: Parmartha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parmartha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2014 06:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apropos of nothing, commentators might get fun from this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kDso5ElFRg&amp;feature=youtu.be]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apropos of nothing, commentators might get fun from this:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kDso5ElFRg&#038;feature=youtu.be" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kDso5ElFRg&#038;feature=youtu.be</a></p>
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