The apparent success of Osho books by OIF has occurred through heavy editing and pushing of the product. OIF unsuccessfully tried to sell Osho’s books. In selling the core idea is to make the customer buy what you have. In marketing the core idea is to provide what the customer wants or needs. If the customers don’t like what you have and you want to stay in business then you will need to change the product. OIF have done this and to some extent this is working – though it is not clear that it is working as much as they would like to make out. However the extent to which the product has had to be changed and the effort gone into pushing the product makes for some very pertinent questions. It seems to me offensive that a person like Osho has been involved in this process of changing the product to suit the customer.

The intense need of Osho disciples within OIF to make the publication a global success tells more about their only psychological deficiencies rather than the popularity or not of Osho books. Every disciple has to have their Master be the greatest Master of all time because their Master is the reflection of their own ego. It is the same with publication of the Masters books. If the books enjoy world-wide success, the disciples become intimately part of this success: the status, the power and influence, and the financial wealth. OIF may say that through there hard work success is finally being achieved. However I am of the view that this very need for such hard work reveals a different truth. There is an unhealthy excess drive to push Osho books to global status.

Of course you may say it is an interesting psychological theory, where is your evidence. The evidence is in the level and type of editing that have been needed for what appears to be only a limited success. The evidence is in the seemingly effortless success of other spiritual authors. The evidence is in the type of person Osho was. I simply cannot imagine Osho ever being part of this process: the process of more and more editing to find the right mixture of words that people would like to read. How absurd it is to think that Osho was trying to feed people words that they liked to read.

Paulo Coelho and Eckhart Tolle have a style and content that a global audience has instantly been drawn to. Osho on the other hand, despite the number of publications, has historically not enjoyed anywhere near the success. In order to try and change the situation OIF has crucified Osho’s words. One never knows the ebb and flow of popularity that Osho may enjoy over the coming centuries. However the current spike in popularity is a temporal success that endeavours to destroy Osho’s timeless message.

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Abhay

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Where did you get such a crazy idea? It is a nice idea if the Master is in the body. Adi Da (‘Bubba’ Daa Free John) used the internet in this way, and to much benefit. However what is the point telecasting a live streaming of a recording? Sounds a bit weird to me. Have you not gotten over the fact that Osho has moved on?

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Abhay

Ask any street book seller in India. People buy ten thousand times more books of Paulo Coelho than all the combined gurus, other than Echhart Tolle.
These two writers don’t have a channel of dedicated disciples who boast about the impact of their books. But Life has given an inbuilt intelligence, people know what they want to buy.
J Krishnamurti was churning out the books and they were and they are published as per his teachings.
Osho was not just churning out the books but had dared to create a Ashram, far beyond all the ashrams. The whole process was chosen and developed by Him.
It was attracting not just masses but the educated one, who were looking for a radical new approach.

He was living amongst his people.

To turn the whole process into a book distribution channel…and yes books create a longing, a understanding the way pornos create surge of libido!

Can they replace the real experience. Can the real physical experience replace the experience of love , can arrange marriage replace the marriage?

If books could have turned the sick relations, sick being into healthy creatures, world would have already turned into heaven.

Osho had the clue–books, discourses, meditation techniques, groups and therapies and an atmosphere of the ashram, which one could trust….
I bow down before this master (sorry, i cannot say master of the masters), who not only wrote the chemistry books but created a best equipped laboratory of all times.
Osho gave to the earth, what a human being could give. If we fuck this all off…it is not His problem, but problem of those mouses, who think they have become the scientists!

VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT:

Straight and not to the point…there are some pretty smart people here engaged in a linguistic game.

If you change the style, change the grammar, or even fix up spelling errorrrs, than you MayBee destroying the most important part of this game. An editor does not know when a misspelling is forrr eggsample intentiaonal or an mizzztake. There is know way of knowing. Also, if it is written by a Master than it is very likely that it is not a mistake. The subtle use of a particular word or style is for an essential reason. Also, if people mayke mizzztakes it can also help reveal something about them. THIS IS WHY YOU CANNOT EDIT OHSO’S wORDS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YAHOO, LOTS OF LOVE, LAUGH OUT LOUD, CHEERS, AND LUV

perhaps what i said about intentional linguistic patterns does not apply to the current SITUATION

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Aboy

Very very true.. people who cant understand Hindi surely missed out a lot of fire power in the early days of Osho.. But thats life.. I am atleast greatful that i was receptive to Osho later on and that has freed me from conditionings to a large extent..

” It makes me faint when i see His disciples clapping after selling few books of a world’s formost spiritual master”

Disciples are disciples ..They are proud of whatever they are doing.. If someone can reach out to ten people and be satisfied then the why not the organization shouldnt feel proud for reaching out to millions using internet and new age books?

” without bothering that master has a possibilty to have half the country behind Him”

By this i understand you mean large number of people.. But thats what they are reching out to..aren’t they? Ofcourse interms of how they should do it is a point where idealogical differences are there and thats why we are all here in this forum expressing various views.

this may be true.. But what we were discussing is the reach of these books to a notmal huamn being struggling to free himself from conditionings..the more we speak against new style of publication the more we degrade numorous ordinary people who need help on awareness.

Talking about how great my master is and how cheap other teachers are not very concious approach.. Osho is Osho.. true.. No one deny it..But saying things like my master can speak for 3 hours and other can speak for 1 hour only is very childish , school boyish approach..

If you go to the source of Osho what do you think I may find? What do you find at the Osho International Meditation Resort, Pune, INDIA, for example? My logical mind leads me to conclude that I will find all of Osho’s original discourses and transcriptions – in Hindi and otherwise. Surely the sacred book store shall be filled with all the unedited truth, afterall I am no longer just interested in a taste. I am looking for the real thing. Also, since reading all his cheap, pleasure filling fictions, I still do not even know what the great Master looks like. At least when I go to the Osho International Meditation Resort, Pune, INDIA, I will be able to see what he looked like. I am myself a professional painter and would therefore like, with special permission, to view all his paintings, signature and otherwise.

What you will really find when you go to the well is water contamination (literally) and criminality (literally). Do you see the absolute stupidity, lack of common sense, and insanity? Shahriar and Kranti and Shantam, you go on and on about superfical arguments, have been shown what lies in the depths of the basement, yet still carry on with meaningless crap.

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click on “osho resort” for some details of what lies at the bottom of the well!!!

yes go to the source like me, get banned, received threatening emails, get verbally threatened, physically threatened with a broom, sticks, metal rods, get pushed and punched, get threatened with a knife, get told to leave Pune (as I was told not to come)…

I know what lies at the source for I have been there. One year in silence I spent working in Osho’s Samadhi. Two years I spent in silence in his sacred Lao Tzu garden. I perhaps was the last one to have a chance to come close to the source, before the lid finally be closed by Jayesh and his gang.

If you are so stupid as to not see the brazenly obvious then I agree that you are asking for cold water to be splashed upon your face.However what about all the innocent people that do come to Osho International Meditation Resort, Pune, INDIA, after reading a cheap fiction? What about all the Osho sannyasins that have had the integrity to leave, quietly or otherwise?
VERY VERY IMPORTANT:

What about so many other Osho sannyasins that know how ugly things have got, yet they feel there is nowhere else on this planet to go? This is perhaps the most ugly thing of all. There are so many of these people. They no how ugly the resort has become, yet lonely they still come. Isn’t this so sad.

There are so many centres all over the world, yet still so many feel lost. In part this is because most, if not all, of the centres are a close circle of friends. It is therefore difficult to integrate into this cosy situation. (Nothing wrong with this mind you, but the point is there is little else). The irony is that those in need are by definition not in the most open and positive social space. Hence they do not fulfil the requirement of being happy and friendly and therefore able to integrate into the closely knit community. Therefore many of the lost souls of this world who do not fit with any of the mainstream religions either travel the path alone, or come to Pune despite knowing the tragedy of the place.

What do the real seekers need? They need safe and affordable accommodation – nowhere to be seen in Koregaon Park as the locals rip everyone off. They also need cheap and healthy food – nowhere to be seen in Koregaon Park, especially at the resort. They also need an affordable space to meditate – the only one I find was down at the burning ghats, but it has its limitations. They also need safe means of getting there and a safe environment upon arrival – no chance of that…have you taken a taxi from Mumbai to Pune…or have you walked the back streets of Koregaon Park alone (day or night)?

If an authentic space for seekers were to be, I could go there, have a chai, see a picture of Osho, perhaps talk to a stranger or an old friend, listen to a discourse, or maybe do some dynamic meditation. The crazy thing is these type of basic ingredients do not cost that much. We have lost the way. Not a space exists on this planet for souls like me that love crazy people like Osho. You may say I am wrong, and invite me to your place with welcome arms. You may say come and sit down and have a chat and meet my friends. I may say that I am looking for Osho’s hidden truth and am not in the mood. Do you see how something essential is missing? An authentic friend may start out as a friendly stranger. The resort is an absurd indictment on all the powers that be. Cannot we do a little better?

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Abhay

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click on “osho resort” for the antithesis of Osho