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		<title>By: Prateeksha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prateeksha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2014 01:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have the first edition of the book too. Max is/was a sannyasin. I met him at the Ranch but do not recall his sannyas name.  Think he worked in construction there. Good guy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the first edition of the book too. Max is/was a sannyasin. I met him at the Ranch but do not recall his sannyas name.  Think he worked in construction there. Good guy.</p>
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		<title>By: madhu dagmar frantzen</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/4207#comment-63204</link>
		<dc:creator>madhu dagmar frantzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2014 09:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I think it may well be possible that Osho was poisoned. Perhaps one day the actual evidence to confirm this will surface&quot;

Lokesh, I can very well relate to that, yet I don´t share your confidence that &#039;one day evidence will surface&#039;, although maybe some universal godliness supporting that I am wrong about that estimation; there are whistle-blowers on quite other ´arenas´, why not there?

What I know by my own experience though is that going against vested interests in whatsoever ´arena´ has its price and sometimes the price is high.  

Love to read your posts.
Mostly.

Madhu]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think it may well be possible that Osho was poisoned. Perhaps one day the actual evidence to confirm this will surface&#8221;</p>
<p>Lokesh, I can very well relate to that, yet I don´t share your confidence that &#8216;one day evidence will surface&#8217;, although maybe some universal godliness supporting that I am wrong about that estimation; there are whistle-blowers on quite other ´arenas´, why not there?</p>
<p>What I know by my own experience though is that going against vested interests in whatsoever ´arena´ has its price and sometimes the price is high.  </p>
<p>Love to read your posts.<br />
Mostly.</p>
<p>Madhu</p>
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		<title>By: lokesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2014 07:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PM declares, &quot;There were 2,000 eye-witnesses to the attack.&quot; I was one of them. It was not a serious attack. More like an impassioned reaction.

To add another angle to the lead article, I just spent an afternoon with X, who visits Ibiza annually. X lived in Osho&#039;s house for many years. X knew about these planned attacks. I asked X about the thallium story. X said that after Osho was in jail his health was never the same and was sure Osho had been poisoned and that it led to his eventual death. I respect X&#039;s opinion greatly and the result in this case is that I was impressed in such a way that I think it may well be possible that Osho was poisoned. Perhaps one day the actual evidence to confirm this will surface.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PM declares, &#8220;There were 2,000 eye-witnesses to the attack.&#8221; I was one of them. It was not a serious attack. More like an impassioned reaction.</p>
<p>To add another angle to the lead article, I just spent an afternoon with X, who visits Ibiza annually. X lived in Osho&#8217;s house for many years. X knew about these planned attacks. I asked X about the thallium story. X said that after Osho was in jail his health was never the same and was sure Osho had been poisoned and that it led to his eventual death. I respect X&#8217;s opinion greatly and the result in this case is that I was impressed in such a way that I think it may well be possible that Osho was poisoned. Perhaps one day the actual evidence to confirm this will surface.</p>
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		<title>By: Parmartha</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/4207#comment-63170</link>
		<dc:creator>Parmartha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2014 13:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seemingly not much interest in this!

Actually, just to &#039;complete&#039; and, especially at this time of a fresh rise in Hindu nationalism, it may be as well to remember there was one serious assassination attempt on Osho&#039;s life - by an extremist Hindu. He stood up (in 1979) as I remember in lecture and threw a knife at Osho. There were 20 policeman in plain clothes in the auditorium that morning. 

The story was that the police had become aware that there could be an assassination attempt that morning and arrived in plain clothes to &quot;protect&quot; Osho. That was their story, but it proved the opposite! 

There were 2,000 eye-witnesses to the attack, including the 20 policemen. Vila Tupe, the potential assassin, was arrested and taken away. BUT he was then released scot-free!  The presiding magistrate said at the hearing that as Osho had continued to speak as if nothing had happened then nothing had occured, and released the man!

Strange goings-on indeed within the Indian judicary and its Hindu allies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seemingly not much interest in this!</p>
<p>Actually, just to &#8216;complete&#8217; and, especially at this time of a fresh rise in Hindu nationalism, it may be as well to remember there was one serious assassination attempt on Osho&#8217;s life &#8211; by an extremist Hindu. He stood up (in 1979) as I remember in lecture and threw a knife at Osho. There were 20 policeman in plain clothes in the auditorium that morning. </p>
<p>The story was that the police had become aware that there could be an assassination attempt that morning and arrived in plain clothes to &#8220;protect&#8221; Osho. That was their story, but it proved the opposite! </p>
<p>There were 2,000 eye-witnesses to the attack, including the 20 policemen. Vila Tupe, the potential assassin, was arrested and taken away. BUT he was then released scot-free!  The presiding magistrate said at the hearing that as Osho had continued to speak as if nothing had happened then nothing had occured, and released the man!</p>
<p>Strange goings-on indeed within the Indian judicary and its Hindu allies.</p>
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		<title>By: madhu dagmar frantzen</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/4207#comment-63149</link>
		<dc:creator>madhu dagmar frantzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2014 15:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So bad, a long email re this issue just has been sucked into some data thief neighborhood!

So bad, as Lokesh said it - being in bad company - as far as IT hacking of those people is concerned!

So sorry -

Madhu]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So bad, a long email re this issue just has been sucked into some data thief neighborhood!</p>
<p>So bad, as Lokesh said it &#8211; being in bad company &#8211; as far as IT hacking of those people is concerned!</p>
<p>So sorry -</p>
<p>Madhu</p>
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		<title>By: madhu dagmar frantzen</title>
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		<dc:creator>madhu dagmar frantzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2014 18:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;My great grandfather was a fairly well known Victorian detective and I suppose it is in the blood!&quot;


I hope so, Parmartha, I count on you, and I would need you here sometimes at my side  - just for a tea and a long talk.
And I know it&#039;s just a childlike fantasy now, but I like to indulge in it;
for the minutes here at may place, which is quite ´uncomfortable, some days extremely uncomfortable, the least to say.

Madhu (with a ´Bavarian blues´...the last before the last, before the very last day of the famous Munich ´Wiesen Event´, which indeed is spread ALL OVER the city, even if you don´t go there).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My great grandfather was a fairly well known Victorian detective and I suppose it is in the blood!&#8221;</p>
<p>I hope so, Parmartha, I count on you, and I would need you here sometimes at my side  &#8211; just for a tea and a long talk.<br />
And I know it&#8217;s just a childlike fantasy now, but I like to indulge in it;<br />
for the minutes here at may place, which is quite ´uncomfortable, some days extremely uncomfortable, the least to say.</p>
<p>Madhu (with a ´Bavarian blues´&#8230;the last before the last, before the very last day of the famous Munich ´Wiesen Event´, which indeed is spread ALL OVER the city, even if you don´t go there).</p>
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		<title>By: Parmartha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parmartha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2014 17:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t really know much about Max Brecher, who wrote &#039;A Passage to America&#039;. I have a first edition of it, but I hear he wrote a somewhat changed second edition. Anyone here know who he was, must have been a sannyasin? And what his orientation was? 

He claims to have tracked down both agents, one of whom is identified as Wolfgang, and names him as William Pratt Gossett, someone who had worked for the US army in various capacities for 25 years. 

He interviewed Don Stewart the operative who it was claimed that Wolfgang hired to assassinate Osho, on various occasions in 1989, and again in April, 1990. He had a face-to-face interview with him at a Truck stop in Medford, Oregon on March 3rd, 1989 and a second meeting with him at the same place on April 6th 1989.  
One has no reason not to believe Brecker?

Whether Stewart was trying to drum up a story in order to benefit financially, well, who is to say? As for Gossett, he seemed a much more elusive character and basically wanted to &#039;lose&#039; the stalking of Brecker. He is reported to have &quot;disappeared&quot; in Brecker&#039;s first edition, though perhaps the second edition revealed more? 

I must admit this interest of mine is to some extent that of a detective. My great-grandfather was a fairly well-known Victorian detective and I suppose it is in the blood!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really know much about Max Brecher, who wrote &#8216;A Passage to America&#8217;. I have a first edition of it, but I hear he wrote a somewhat changed second edition. Anyone here know who he was, must have been a sannyasin? And what his orientation was? </p>
<p>He claims to have tracked down both agents, one of whom is identified as Wolfgang, and names him as William Pratt Gossett, someone who had worked for the US army in various capacities for 25 years. </p>
<p>He interviewed Don Stewart the operative who it was claimed that Wolfgang hired to assassinate Osho, on various occasions in 1989, and again in April, 1990. He had a face-to-face interview with him at a Truck stop in Medford, Oregon on March 3rd, 1989 and a second meeting with him at the same place on April 6th 1989.<br />
One has no reason not to believe Brecker?</p>
<p>Whether Stewart was trying to drum up a story in order to benefit financially, well, who is to say? As for Gossett, he seemed a much more elusive character and basically wanted to &#8216;lose&#8217; the stalking of Brecker. He is reported to have &#8220;disappeared&#8221; in Brecker&#8217;s first edition, though perhaps the second edition revealed more? </p>
<p>I must admit this interest of mine is to some extent that of a detective. My great-grandfather was a fairly well-known Victorian detective and I suppose it is in the blood!</p>
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		<title>By: Ashok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2014 08:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A government assassination attempt on Osho is not beyond the scope of the imagination in a place like the U.S.A., where of course, anything is possible eg vote-rigging, corrupt cops etc. However, when looking at this issue I think that one needs to take into account how much of a threat the security forces there had estimated Osho posed to the establishment at that time. Couldn&#039;t have been very high on their scale of things, could it, esp. while the &#039;Cold War&#039; was still going on?

What seems much more plausible to me is the idea that Sheela and her gang had attracted the attention of the security forces, due to all the criminal nonsense they had been perpetrating in Antelope eg trying to poison the local townspeople in pursuit of their political goals etc. It kind of looks to me like &#039;they brought it on themselves&#039;. At that point the authorities took what they considered to be the necessary action eg  for one, they kicked Osho and his entourage of cohorts out of the country.

I personally find testimony from ex-members of the security forces on TV shows and the like, to be highly questionable and of dubious intent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A government assassination attempt on Osho is not beyond the scope of the imagination in a place like the U.S.A., where of course, anything is possible eg vote-rigging, corrupt cops etc. However, when looking at this issue I think that one needs to take into account how much of a threat the security forces there had estimated Osho posed to the establishment at that time. Couldn&#8217;t have been very high on their scale of things, could it, esp. while the &#8216;Cold War&#8217; was still going on?</p>
<p>What seems much more plausible to me is the idea that Sheela and her gang had attracted the attention of the security forces, due to all the criminal nonsense they had been perpetrating in Antelope eg trying to poison the local townspeople in pursuit of their political goals etc. It kind of looks to me like &#8216;they brought it on themselves&#8217;. At that point the authorities took what they considered to be the necessary action eg  for one, they kicked Osho and his entourage of cohorts out of the country.</p>
<p>I personally find testimony from ex-members of the security forces on TV shows and the like, to be highly questionable and of dubious intent.</p>
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		<title>By: lokesh</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/4207#comment-63035</link>
		<dc:creator>lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2014 07:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, PM, I have one old sannyasin friend who thinks that the Americans did not poison Osho with thallium because they were not clever enough to do that. Everyone has their opinion.

The truth is that I don&#039;t know and can only speculate on such matters. I was very touched when Osho spoke about this, outraged that someone could have done this to such a beautiful man. I suppose that I enjoy to play devil&#039;s advocate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, PM, I have one old sannyasin friend who thinks that the Americans did not poison Osho with thallium because they were not clever enough to do that. Everyone has their opinion.</p>
<p>The truth is that I don&#8217;t know and can only speculate on such matters. I was very touched when Osho spoke about this, outraged that someone could have done this to such a beautiful man. I suppose that I enjoy to play devil&#8217;s advocate.</p>
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		<title>By: Parmartha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parmartha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2014 06:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Judging by some of the US mistakes, especially in foreign policy, one cannot be sure that any of their assassination attempts, be it of Osho or anyone else, would have been &quot;clever&quot;, in fact the words you use Lokesh of &quot;Stupid, clumsy and easily detected&quot; seem apposite to me of quite a lot of what the Americans, unfortunately, do. 

One thing I find extraordinary still is in their domestic policies they are quite happy to keep one per cent (much higher than elsewhere in the western world)  of their population in jail with very little attention to rehabilitation, etc, and draconian sentences being normal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judging by some of the US mistakes, especially in foreign policy, one cannot be sure that any of their assassination attempts, be it of Osho or anyone else, would have been &#8220;clever&#8221;, in fact the words you use Lokesh of &#8220;Stupid, clumsy and easily detected&#8221; seem apposite to me of quite a lot of what the Americans, unfortunately, do. </p>
<p>One thing I find extraordinary still is in their domestic policies they are quite happy to keep one per cent (much higher than elsewhere in the western world)  of their population in jail with very little attention to rehabilitation, etc, and draconian sentences being normal.</p>
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