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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2014 18:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Music, now you&#039;re talking, Madhu. Just finished a two week long recording, songwriting stint. Very exciting. In many ways a dream come true. Will return to it after my sojourn in the north. It is bloody fresh to say the least. To me, it feels like walking about in permanent air-co...brrrrr!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Music, now you&#8217;re talking, Madhu. Just finished a two week long recording, songwriting stint. Very exciting. In many ways a dream come true. Will return to it after my sojourn in the north. It is bloody fresh to say the least. To me, it feels like walking about in permanent air-co&#8230;brrrrr!</p>
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		<title>By: madhu dagmar frantzen</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/4167#comment-62646</link>
		<dc:creator>madhu dagmar frantzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2014 12:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you , Lokesh , for your another ´scotish´ postcard, its beautiful.
Why not paint every moment anew ?

And once again, the ´heritage´, I tried to speak of  - ever a living thing; 
one to live more than to brag about it, because words fall short, especially with Osho and His ways of loving us and loving  - This.
 
However , the way to deal - in  -  and with it - with lawyers, may be spys , detectives or advocats tribunals etc ... and that was , what I have been referring to , when I had commented this or that.
Feeling pain in watching the latter, I mostly go both the ways: looking inside,  where there are own individual traumata lurking round the corner (like past commune stuff, I wasn´t able to digest emotionally -
or looking inside - trying to make friends with the pain , of having lost many friends on the way - what is the case.
Much of the ´sannyas realms´ found its ways in a broad market place , the wellness - or also the efficiency plus wellness market;  the very new thread in the chat , which has opened by now gives some report of that.
Issues I have very much into it mentally the last decades.

The pain , I meant which I cherish (without being masochistic like you presumed), more used like an inner guidance, to sharpen my instincts about situations and proceedings , wherein the HEART seems to be lost and replaced by performances whatsoever .

I have no proof - thereon - never.

Its just that kind of pain reminding me to look again and again, but also not faking a contentment when contentment and fulfillment is not there.
That´s my dignity.  And that keeps me going.

And sure - like you , in your today´s sunday morning walkabout in your homeland, also for me here - sometimes wait surprises .
The last I had  , when I was visiting the yearly happening big  musicians ´competition ´here in Munic (classical music and modern music) , where young musicians from all over the world are coming together , making music, or better said , inviting music to come through them ; 
there are lots of new masters on stage !

And so true :  MUSIC comes next to Meditation

And so true also : sometimes that happens, sometimes not, it´s like Grace
and all belong to that, the solo musician,  the orchestra, and the audience too.
the ´rainbow moments´never to be repeatable, cannot be forced upon; yet they somehow find ways into our flesh and bones too.
So such exists and no exists. Both.

Those who really came in touch with that , are recognizable 
And those , who only brag about it,  also.

I am glad that some are even appearing on computer screens.

Have a beautiful day out -there, Lokesh -

Madhu]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you , Lokesh , for your another ´scotish´ postcard, its beautiful.<br />
Why not paint every moment anew ?</p>
<p>And once again, the ´heritage´, I tried to speak of  &#8211; ever a living thing;<br />
one to live more than to brag about it, because words fall short, especially with Osho and His ways of loving us and loving  &#8211; This.</p>
<p>However , the way to deal &#8211; in  &#8211;  and with it &#8211; with lawyers, may be spys , detectives or advocats tribunals etc &#8230; and that was , what I have been referring to , when I had commented this or that.<br />
Feeling pain in watching the latter, I mostly go both the ways: looking inside,  where there are own individual traumata lurking round the corner (like past commune stuff, I wasn´t able to digest emotionally -<br />
or looking inside &#8211; trying to make friends with the pain , of having lost many friends on the way &#8211; what is the case.<br />
Much of the ´sannyas realms´ found its ways in a broad market place , the wellness &#8211; or also the efficiency plus wellness market;  the very new thread in the chat , which has opened by now gives some report of that.<br />
Issues I have very much into it mentally the last decades.</p>
<p>The pain , I meant which I cherish (without being masochistic like you presumed), more used like an inner guidance, to sharpen my instincts about situations and proceedings , wherein the HEART seems to be lost and replaced by performances whatsoever .</p>
<p>I have no proof &#8211; thereon &#8211; never.</p>
<p>Its just that kind of pain reminding me to look again and again, but also not faking a contentment when contentment and fulfillment is not there.<br />
That´s my dignity.  And that keeps me going.</p>
<p>And sure &#8211; like you , in your today´s sunday morning walkabout in your homeland, also for me here &#8211; sometimes wait surprises .<br />
The last I had  , when I was visiting the yearly happening big  musicians ´competition ´here in Munic (classical music and modern music) , where young musicians from all over the world are coming together , making music, or better said , inviting music to come through them ;<br />
there are lots of new masters on stage !</p>
<p>And so true :  MUSIC comes next to Meditation</p>
<p>And so true also : sometimes that happens, sometimes not, it´s like Grace<br />
and all belong to that, the solo musician,  the orchestra, and the audience too.<br />
the ´rainbow moments´never to be repeatable, cannot be forced upon; yet they somehow find ways into our flesh and bones too.<br />
So such exists and no exists. Both.</p>
<p>Those who really came in touch with that , are recognizable<br />
And those , who only brag about it,  also.</p>
<p>I am glad that some are even appearing on computer screens.</p>
<p>Have a beautiful day out -there, Lokesh -</p>
<p>Madhu</p>
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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/4167#comment-62643</link>
		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2014 08:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t worry about it, Madhu. I have a provocative side that I occassionally air on SN. I always dug when Osho told his people our job is to provoke the divine in each other. I think the point I am trying to make is that I just can&#039;t relate to your experiencing pain in regards the preservation of Osho&#039;s heritage. I don&#039;t doubt your sincerity, but I do doubt that any good will come out of such suffering.

The kind of suffering that can be of benefit has myriad forms. The first that comes to mind is physical illness. There is something about the body breaking down that helps us get rid of the detritus of daily living and pushes one deeper into oneself, a process that can bring us closer to who we are on an essential level. Nobody wants to become ill, but it is inevitable that we will from time to time. It is good to remind ourselves that something good may come out of it. 

We all take life for granted and a bout of ill health can return us to a more appreciative state, wherein we may also have a return to humility and compassion towards our fellow man, knowing that no matter how hard a person might appear they are in essence vulnerable, just like we are. Something that is not so easy to stay in touch with...say when encountering an aggressive drunk at the bus stop.

That is this mornings sermon over. Now, believe it or not I am off to church in a small village nearby. I enjoy to do things like that when visiting my homeland. There is always good material for a story and no doubt a few surprises.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry about it, Madhu. I have a provocative side that I occassionally air on SN. I always dug when Osho told his people our job is to provoke the divine in each other. I think the point I am trying to make is that I just can&#8217;t relate to your experiencing pain in regards the preservation of Osho&#8217;s heritage. I don&#8217;t doubt your sincerity, but I do doubt that any good will come out of such suffering.</p>
<p>The kind of suffering that can be of benefit has myriad forms. The first that comes to mind is physical illness. There is something about the body breaking down that helps us get rid of the detritus of daily living and pushes one deeper into oneself, a process that can bring us closer to who we are on an essential level. Nobody wants to become ill, but it is inevitable that we will from time to time. It is good to remind ourselves that something good may come out of it. </p>
<p>We all take life for granted and a bout of ill health can return us to a more appreciative state, wherein we may also have a return to humility and compassion towards our fellow man, knowing that no matter how hard a person might appear they are in essence vulnerable, just like we are. Something that is not so easy to stay in touch with&#8230;say when encountering an aggressive drunk at the bus stop.</p>
<p>That is this mornings sermon over. Now, believe it or not I am off to church in a small village nearby. I enjoy to do things like that when visiting my homeland. There is always good material for a story and no doubt a few surprises.</p>
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		<title>By: madhu dagmar frantzen</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/4167#comment-62638</link>
		<dc:creator>madhu dagmar frantzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2014 16:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Feedback for Lokesh,

I didn´t ignore your question about what I meant by `heritage´in your first of your post, Lokesh, yet your added PS then came in the way , and I responded to a climate then, what I didn´t want to meet in the internet realms.
Sometimes I also have to google meanings of words, as it is not my mother tongue.
You asked again ,  I assure you, the Quest of this is in my heart and I took it into my heart. And response will come , when it comes.
Me, I also have to wait , but will give that feedback to you.

You say, you are ´genuinely´interested, yet you want the delivery of a 
´coherent´answer´.
(I have to go again into my wisdom whisperer´s aid for ´double binds´ and stuff like this, what I found out in the dictionaries)

What I can say up to now, that it is a difficulty for me, to respond, if I feel the other side already being busy to sharpen its ´knife´...

I didn´t felt ´read´by your interpretations, Lokesh.
And on the other hand - to speak about a ´living thing´is really really difficult;
not only that that is changing moment to moment , yet Being in Existence.

I go ´out´, - more than you imagine .
Yet am in fact deprived of contact,  which in a human way nourishes the heart , a point you sensed correctly, but commented  harsh  - up to in a humiliating way and from my side of view - also ignorant.

So will take a little time, to respond , Lokesh, to your question.
And thank you for patience before.

Madhu]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feedback for Lokesh,</p>
<p>I didn´t ignore your question about what I meant by `heritage´in your first of your post, Lokesh, yet your added PS then came in the way , and I responded to a climate then, what I didn´t want to meet in the internet realms.<br />
Sometimes I also have to google meanings of words, as it is not my mother tongue.<br />
You asked again ,  I assure you, the Quest of this is in my heart and I took it into my heart. And response will come , when it comes.<br />
Me, I also have to wait , but will give that feedback to you.</p>
<p>You say, you are ´genuinely´interested, yet you want the delivery of a<br />
´coherent´answer´.<br />
(I have to go again into my wisdom whisperer´s aid for ´double binds´ and stuff like this, what I found out in the dictionaries)</p>
<p>What I can say up to now, that it is a difficulty for me, to respond, if I feel the other side already being busy to sharpen its ´knife´&#8230;</p>
<p>I didn´t felt ´read´by your interpretations, Lokesh.<br />
And on the other hand &#8211; to speak about a ´living thing´is really really difficult;<br />
not only that that is changing moment to moment , yet Being in Existence.</p>
<p>I go ´out´, &#8211; more than you imagine .<br />
Yet am in fact deprived of contact,  which in a human way nourishes the heart , a point you sensed correctly, but commented  harsh  &#8211; up to in a humiliating way and from my side of view &#8211; also ignorant.</p>
<p>So will take a little time, to respond , Lokesh, to your question.<br />
And thank you for patience before.</p>
<p>Madhu</p>
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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/4167#comment-62631</link>
		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2014 12:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chudo, do you sometimes feel the urge to place your jacket over muddy puddles for fair maidens to step upon to stop their tootsies getting muddied? You do! Thought as much. Evidence that shows that you were Sir Walter Raleigh in a previous incarnation. 

Now jump on your charger and go save that damsel in distress, waving a scented hanky from a the lofty battlements of the wicked baron&#039;s schloss...the age of chivalry is upon thee.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chudo, do you sometimes feel the urge to place your jacket over muddy puddles for fair maidens to step upon to stop their tootsies getting muddied? You do! Thought as much. Evidence that shows that you were Sir Walter Raleigh in a previous incarnation. </p>
<p>Now jump on your charger and go save that damsel in distress, waving a scented hanky from a the lofty battlements of the wicked baron&#8217;s schloss&#8230;the age of chivalry is upon thee.</p>
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		<title>By: Shantam Prem</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/4167#comment-62629</link>
		<dc:creator>Shantam Prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2014 09:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Death does not hurt, murder hurts. 
Giving something voluntarily is offering, snatching is like rape.
Nobody likes to be raped! 

Lokesh, if you know the distinction between the above states, you will see the irrelevance of your wisdom poured out of context.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Death does not hurt, murder hurts.<br />
Giving something voluntarily is offering, snatching is like rape.<br />
Nobody likes to be raped! </p>
<p>Lokesh, if you know the distinction between the above states, you will see the irrelevance of your wisdom poured out of context.</p>
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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/4167#comment-62628</link>
		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2014 08:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I will repeat one of my earlier questions, which you choose to ignore so far. I will be genuinely interested to hear some form of coherant response.
&#039;Madhu, perhaps it would be of interest to readers to explain what good comes out of the pain you experience in regards Osho’s heritage, and what form you imagine that heritage takes.&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will repeat one of my earlier questions, which you choose to ignore so far. I will be genuinely interested to hear some form of coherant response.<br />
&#8216;Madhu, perhaps it would be of interest to readers to explain what good comes out of the pain you experience in regards Osho’s heritage, and what form you imagine that heritage takes.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: madhu dagmar frantzen</title>
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		<dc:creator>madhu dagmar frantzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2014 21:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PS to your PS:

Reading other´s is an art too , Lokesh.
I sometimes feel, you are not very much into it;
The internet also a space where all kinds of stereotypical bashings are deliberately find their ways to the keyboard. easy going.

That´s the way it is .

May be you read again ?
Or not.

Madhu]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS to your PS:</p>
<p>Reading other´s is an art too , Lokesh.<br />
I sometimes feel, you are not very much into it;<br />
The internet also a space where all kinds of stereotypical bashings are deliberately find their ways to the keyboard. easy going.</p>
<p>That´s the way it is .</p>
<p>May be you read again ?<br />
Or not.</p>
<p>Madhu</p>
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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2014 14:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PS, Madhu, &#039;similiar response reactions from many of those who visited and sat with Punjaji&#039;
That sounds to me like a crude attempt at pigeon holing...wherein by simply adapting such an attitude you can ignore something that might benefit you in regards what is being said to you.
You come across like someone who does not have enough going on in their life. You are indulging yourself in self-righteous bullshit, which you automatically rush to defend. Had you enough fulfillment going on in your life you would not concern yourself with cornball blarney about the pain you experience in regards Osho&#039;s heritage. Ever tried throwing pots? It is all built around nothing apparently...just like you and me. Yahoo!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS, Madhu, &#8216;similiar response reactions from many of those who visited and sat with Punjaji&#8217;<br />
That sounds to me like a crude attempt at pigeon holing&#8230;wherein by simply adapting such an attitude you can ignore something that might benefit you in regards what is being said to you.<br />
You come across like someone who does not have enough going on in their life. You are indulging yourself in self-righteous bullshit, which you automatically rush to defend. Had you enough fulfillment going on in your life you would not concern yourself with cornball blarney about the pain you experience in regards Osho&#8217;s heritage. Ever tried throwing pots? It is all built around nothing apparently&#8230;just like you and me. Yahoo!</p>
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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/4167#comment-62615</link>
		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2014 14:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi PM. Bonnie Scotland continues to be bonnie.
I was in a shop this morning where one weirdo declared that he could no longer live with the defeat in Scotland. He actually bent over and laid his weary head on the shop counter. He then declared he was moving to Scandinavia. Totally whacko.
Up here its just another day in Legoland. Wind em up and watch them go man go. There are still &#039;YES&#039; banners in fields, walls etc and I kind of like that, suppose it reminds me of sannyas days before there was a heritage or legacy and such mumbo jumbo. Ach. just like the famous Grouse Whisky, ye cannae beat it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi PM. Bonnie Scotland continues to be bonnie.<br />
I was in a shop this morning where one weirdo declared that he could no longer live with the defeat in Scotland. He actually bent over and laid his weary head on the shop counter. He then declared he was moving to Scandinavia. Totally whacko.<br />
Up here its just another day in Legoland. Wind em up and watch them go man go. There are still &#8216;YES&#8217; banners in fields, walls etc and I kind of like that, suppose it reminds me of sannyas days before there was a heritage or legacy and such mumbo jumbo. Ach. just like the famous Grouse Whisky, ye cannae beat it.</p>
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