This happened particularly badly to me in 1983, just after I moved to London, and I began a phase, which lasted a year, of daily vippassana and I kept going through the paranoia, the freak out, which lasted three weeks. God knows how I got through really. I’ve never looked back since. (In personal terms. not in some objective overarching sense. )

I have seen so many people start exploring meditation and abruptly stop, and I am convinced, from the way they rationalise what’s happened, they have pulled out because the shit has begun to hit the fan.(I am not condemning anyone for this. )

So true, Parmartha –

however – there is another kind of power or may better said ´strengths ´(?);
and as this thread is dedicated to the power of Nature, plants and tress and rocks and water falling or residing , and the Bamoboo and the Roses
all – This
and some creative ´ministry´of celebrating the art of giving a living Sangha a Living Home and Beauty which I connect with Nivedano as also japonese Asanga – and the deep experience of being member like many others in the worship (yes , you read right !) big garden-crew – timeless- time, I will never forget.
For me it has been good that the wild and strong power Nivedano embodies which he up to nowadays gives in his project in Brazil was balanced in the dance with the more Zen-Art of Asanga as a crew leader working with the Bamboo, also building the Bamboo fence (before it all went black- so to say) – have been in the Bamboo crew and the Watering .
I fell very sick in that time and rarely that I can say, to become sick can mean to become more ´whole´. The Bamboo up to nowadays as I can visit the Bamboo even here (but very marrow), The Bamboo and Meditation is not two but one.
(but that´s a long story , i will spare you of)
I love Nivedano , I have been always a bit scary too though ; like you meet an energy of wilderness and undomesticable – like Nature is as well, even if you try to.
And some of this , I meet again even in the Interview of the thread.
And I remember the music, the rhythm beats on the ranch too as well
as in Pune II.
And what I know, is that that brought me (after accidents) again on the feet , in the dance and back to life and also Life.
So – if Nivedano ´peeps´ in here accidentally to read (what I don´t believe),
but when, then I send my gratefulness hereby, for an intense and very important as beautiful time in my life !
His report here and elsewhere about how things were going… is a kind of drumming too , feels familiar to me
and he is a Master drummer , and loving the Master his unique way.
The Garden created in Pune also is a love letter , and one of the most beautiful ones , because it´s LIVING one. Ever changing.

And to have a living love letter , may be the surpreme and may not be topped ,
and may give shelter for many more than those , who left , or a leaving , or are dying (changing forms) , like Nature also does transform endlessly that way.

Love-night-letter to you all (and to Nivedano and his wife)

aahhh -

Madhu

Yes!

These perverted lechers are like perverted lechers looking up the kilt of innocent Scotsmen and lusting after what is not theirs!
They have been interfering and abusing the innocent, loving Scotsmen for centuries as if he was a blow-up doll, just as the Anglo-Saxons have abused the true sannyasins in Pune just for their own filthy amusement!
It is time for a Bannockburn in Koregaon Park and bagpipe music introduced into all Osho festivals!

Your knowledge of Anglo-Scottish politics is certainly on a par with your self-knowledge, Bhai!
Your level of enlightenment clear, bhai!
Like a winter’s day on the Isle of Skye!

Yes, Alex Salmond and Mel Gibson serve as great examples to all Braveheart sannyasins who have had their nonsense festivals and inplants interfered with by the perverted Englisch lechers!

When the individual merges with the collective and then becomes separate, and freedom is not a theoretical concept, like the Scotland, then he has power to say yes or no as a very lifeline for evolution!
Nothing could be more clear!

Yes, and as an Indian it is indeed sweet to see the arrogant Anglo-Saxon being humiliated by the true Scots like Mel Gibson.
It will be a perfect justice for 1947, when I,like you, Shantam Bhai, will enjoy immensely when news breaks of the the fist trans-border Express loaded with corpses pulling into Gretna Green!

Yahoo!
Hare Om!
Scotland the Brave!

Now I wonder where that Yoga Chinmaya is who was Osho’s Secretary before 1970. Maybe Kabir knows! At least he never seemed to make such mistakes!

“Don’t discount the role of paranoia in all this.
Meditating in the early stages has a similar effect to alcohol poisoning, ie heightens existing qualities, paranoia for one.”

I wouldn´t say that, Arpana; yet meditation has become a word for all and almost anything these decades.”

I would, and stand by that.

I wouldn´t say that, Arpana; yet meditation has become a word for all and almost anything these decades.

And also in that special context, i´d like to add , what our Beatle Hero said in America, shortly after being shot dead (and having had a long file by FPI).
Shot by an utter obnoxious , crazy, and may be also hired killer.

“When you are paranoid”, he said , “that does ´t mean, that there are no good reasons for it !” And he spoke it in the camera of a television company when (finally) he got his license to stay. To live just but a very few days longer in this body…

And I feel to add that NOW ; in all contexts of (sannyas)dramas , incidents, and also subjects , we ponder upon on many levels here.

(Me personally loves it , that a “garden” thread has opened and will take time for that)

in sincerely meditative mood, and
yours sincerely

Madhu

My yes is for the Yes Scotland. As an Indian, it will be a sweet feeling to see that country getting divided who was signatory in India´s division. More than that, it supports the new evolution where citizens become powerful to decide their fate.

YES OR NO, Individual will merging with collective will has the power.

As a disciple of a master who supports freedom unconditionally, referendum in Scotland can also be an eye-opener for the lechers who are holding Osho Pune property like a doll. It is not their self-earned property, therefore collective will of the disciples must manifest. For example, if nonsense festivals implanted by such people should take place in Pune or the festivals developed by OSHO.

Freedom is not a theoretical concept but very lifeline of evolution and I love EUROPE for the role as trendsetters.