That sounds like the intro to a very long list!

Cheer up,love…. it may never happen!
(enlightenment,that is)

Kabir,
I would like to question what you put out here, in these (special) lines above. Not only because of Chetana’s book, but also in reference to the ‘Living Mandala’ one can see us all in, different in different phases.

And wasn’t it you who quoted something picked up from Osho, short time before he left His body, about the Silence happening in the Sangha?

Anyway, a point I don’t feel to laugh at – at the Suchness of this.

Another point is, as a Lover of Truth and a fellow-traveller of Meditation, that (for me) surrender to the fact that at any given time, anybody is just at the right place to be ; and the latter a challenge quite often to surrender to (for me).

And it has been ever that way, also in His Lifetime in the Body up to Here-Now, seemingly living a Hermit´s life for quite a very long time.

A ‘Mandala’, as a visible parable of an energy-field being interconnected, allows us to see how everything is connected with everything else – yet some structure is formed.

What I love about some of the Tibetan ART of Mandala Meditation is that when a Mandala made out of coloured sands, having served the Teachings process about the phenomenal worlds and the Meditation, is being taking care of with great love and respect: the coloured sands are gathered and given to the river.

A great Symbolic Act: To give a n y Vision to the River of Life.

Has to be done almost daily, isn’t it? And may take more than one lifelong learning to be respectful this way.

Madhu

Osho did not want his words to become a religion. He did not want an organisation; he wanted a living organism. These circles were an effective way to destroy any possibility of his work being turned into a religion. 21 people who have to come to unanimity to act? Great joke!”

Unfortunately though, Kabir, such a view remains just that, a view, an opinion informed by hindsight, unprovable, however confidently expounded.

Some will simply say believing this might be just a way to explain anything Osho did that didn’t quite work or that failed, ie “It’s ok, it was just a ‘device’, Osho knew exactly what he was doing and its outcome.”

Perhaps most of the people Osho trusted to run the show turned out to be ‘unfit for purpose’…maybe their ‘selves’ (‘egos’, if you like) failed him (and, according to this line, everyone else)?

Or perhaps he misjudged character (as he seemed to do with Sheela)?

Who knows? You, I and everyone else don’t, we can only guess at the truth – and hopefully bear in mind our own personal bias before reaching any conclusion.

In around 25 years of time, last of the youngest sannyasins who has seen the life and times of Osho will also be gone; then it will be a field day for the asshole scholars to go on examing the stool test reports and create the menu accordingly.

As you have written, “Osho was often asked what would happen after he dropped the body and his answer, as I remember it, was along the lines of: Who cares?”

If anyone has little brain he can see such sentences were spoken years ago. It is like asking a newly married person about his tombstone. Answer will be similar, ” Who cares, I am living here and now.”

Person who doesn’t care, doesn’t tell in the last moments how to take care of the ashes.

The Ashes!