Surrender to his higher irrational wisdom or remain forever the prisoner of your Anglo-Saxon mind which is nothing more than mind!

Shantam is totally perceptive!
No skulduggery or deceptiveness passes his notice!
One who has clocked as many hours of meditation and dedicated his whole life to Osho’s movement can not be fooled by the shenanigans of western baboons!

The true devotion of the disciple who has given his whole life for the cause will always seem like delusion to the mind, but the brave and true disciples will hang in there to the bitter, bitter end!

Yahoo!

As I suggested yesterday, delusions of grandeur appear to be operating, this time re your assumed ‘scientific’ standpoint (and you’re the one who assumed the intellectual higher ground over Lokesh!)…

Perhaps, Shantam, the process of expansion of the influence of a great master like Osho is not necessarily confined to the obvious, what can easily be seen by the naked eye, so to say.

The very fact that he spoke directly (to large and small gatherings) and indirectly (via videos, audios, books) probably to millions of people (and still does, via the latter) means that his words have penetrated deeply into the collective psyche (call it ‘the akashic records’ if you like) and are therefore bound to have considerable influence – as truth – for many years, even centuries ahead.

That’s not my personal invention, of course, it’s apparently common enough esoteric knowledge that I’ve happened to come across, from various sources, including Sannyas. But bearing that in mind can take the edge off the sort of disillusioned anxiety that you’re so often at pains to express. Leaving one with the question: What am I doing in my life to free myself from whatever’s holding me back from discovering the truth of who I am?

Obsessed with the ‘outer’ concerns as you appear to be, Shantam, I wonder whether you ever truly ask this of yourself?

I don’t blame you for dropping out from Osho’s game at the very start. We all make our choices and it should be so.
I have stayed till the bitter end from the age of 22.
I will compliment anyone who has been part of Osho movement till end to doubt any of my posts.

The people in the leadership position have simply made the vasectomy with the spirit of Osho movement. It can grow old but won’t produce anything creative.

You addressed me, did you? To do a little rating?
Included is your rating of my stutterings: “talk your talk, as it were!”

When I ‘walk my talk’, you would be needed at my side, Satyadeva,
And me, like anybody , is ‘walking inner talk’ and inner chattering besides the blissful moments when silence is happening. And also this I have in common with anybody here.

Truth is, mind is a Pandora´s box, yet it makes such a difference at what stage of consciousness it is dealt with, that very fact.

If I feel to vomit (words) or cathart frustration or aggression (words), I mostly go into writing my very private diary, and what I learn by this procedure is that all these feelings have to do with my resistance to accept ‘what is’. Not to speak of my resistance to acknowledge my inability ´to love what is and is coming into appearance.

Yes, it´s like you presumed, quite often I feel hurt (just by reading) and taking that to heart often takes time and also intentionally go into search what wounded spot in myself is not yet seen by myself – so sometimes an ‘insult’ is a very good vehicle for inner research.

Sometimes it is just to wait and turbulence disappears on its own accord.

It is not that I don´t bother.

My own life experience is that any fight gives birth to another fight, individually as collective. And throughout these decades I met such a bunch of beautiful people who are utterly tired of fighting (inside-outside) – looking for ‘another way’.

From the many remarkable Beings I have been gifted to meet this lifetime, just one remembrance of a woman, to finish my today´s try to respond to you, Satyadeva. She put out the question:

“Do you want to be right, or do you want to love?”
This is a question worth to take inside, isn´t it?

Love,

Madhu

Anand Yogi, there is nothing to attain. Buddhahood is not something to get. Just a simple remembering suffices. We are all already buddhas.

“It is indeed sad and provoking of compassion to see so many sannyasins still now completely attached to those superficial and irrelevant sausage sweetmeats between their legs and continuing to abuse the freedom that Osho has given them!”

There is nothing sad about it. We are not in a race. Things are going perfectly well.

“Yet, I am overjoyed that you have gone beyond the first step and onto the second. You have understood Osho’s words!”

Waking up is simple and easy and non-intellectual. No “steps” are required.

“But there is one further step! My feeling is that you have not reached the point which is beyond both sex and superconsciousness both! You have understood Osho’s words, but have you understood fully the words of Swami Bhorat? I think not. There is still some way to go on your journey, dear Bhai!”

The journey is never-ending; there is not “one further step.” Again, it is not a race and not a competition to attain anything. Take it easy, beloved Anand Yogi.

I don’t call someone personally the parasite and virus. It is general by nature.
And even if I call, I have earned it in this particular branch.
As you know from your profession, nurses don’t call doctors by name!

Next time address Lokesh as Lokesh, sir!

Please provide a few details worthy of such “clear observation”, Shantam. Otherwise one will simply have to accept that it’s just a matter of your personal opinion, quite likely largely influenced by certain delusions of grandeur (on your part) re your role at the ashram many years ago.

As for your remarks on education and Lokesh, well, no doubt he’ll speak for himself, but suffice to say that if you don’t yet realise that formal education is no guarantee of common sense, let alone superior judgment, then you haven’t really learned a lot in your 50-plus years!

(And btw, I’ve recently responded to you at the last topic).

Yes, there is a hierarchy in the meditative inner journey, as you say. With this statement, you make clear how deep and clear your grasp of the nature of meditation, bhai!

You may be higher up in the hierarchy than many of the parasites, viruses and baboons to be found here on SN and in the Eesort, but remember, I embody the spirit of Bharat and you may have “logged more hours in meditation” than Satya Deva, but I have certainly logged more hours than you and I also have an adoring wife!

I am confident that Osho`s vision will be fulfilled.
Also, the dream of Swami Bharat is also being spread far and wide, although at present only very few have truly understood the words of Swami Bharat!

And I hope and pray that one day you, Bhai, will be able to truly comprehend the reality and nature conveyed by the words of Swami Bharat and the ordained inheritor of his legacy, Anand Yogi!
It will be a great and rollicking awakening!

Love!
Yahoo!

Not just in the miliatry, medical or money-related professions there is some hierarchy, some protocol, it is also very much there in the meditative inner journey.

When a junior does not know in which class he is, someone should come forward to show him the way. Anand Yogi, I don’t know who this gentleman Bharat is, Lokesh is not less worthy. So hold your fingers on the keyboard. First, find some ashram to spend 5, 7 years before expressing anything publically.

These westerners like the Scotsman Lokesh were not the right people to come to mystics in the last century, but you, Shantam Bhai, certainly were the right person!

How tragic that one such as you was forced by the negative astrological aspects of dysfunctional kids of Anglo- Saxon West from the lofty heights of Hindi typist of Osho’s vision to cleaning toilets in a spiritual wasteland and be brought so low as to have to misuse your typing gift to entertain the cynical and Scottish ex-sannyasins with adoring wives!

Maybe it is time to take the advice of your middle-class uncle Bharat and “Dig your wife regularly. If you can find one.”

Love!
Yahoo!