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	<title>Comments on: Forget all about this spiritual stuff &#8211; Osho</title>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/3979#comment-60807</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Never mind about others, Shantam - what about YOU?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never mind about others, Shantam &#8211; what about YOU?</p>
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		<title>By: Shantam Prem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shantam Prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If listening to and reading great religious sermons could create the better man, we Indians or &#039;people with Indian names&#039; would have already been the inspiration of the whole world!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If listening to and reading great religious sermons could create the better man, we Indians or &#8216;people with Indian names&#8217; would have already been the inspiration of the whole world!</p>
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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/3979#comment-60791</link>
		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2014 15:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shantam&#039;s got his buttons pressed. AGAIN!!!!

LOL.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shantam&#8217;s got his buttons pressed. AGAIN!!!!</p>
<p>LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: Shantam Prem</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/3979#comment-60790</link>
		<dc:creator>Shantam Prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2014 14:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh my God, whenever I see this  guy Arpana repeating the words of Osho and other people as stones and bricks, the way mob does in Philistine, it hurts even more to react.

With other bloggers who use their own prose, it is still a balanced act.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my God, whenever I see this  guy Arpana repeating the words of Osho and other people as stones and bricks, the way mob does in Philistine, it hurts even more to react.</p>
<p>With other bloggers who use their own prose, it is still a balanced act.</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/3979#comment-60789</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2014 14:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I suspected, Shantam, you&#039;ve never been taught the difference between love/passion and emotion/sentiment. All you can do is pour scorn, thus once again broadcasting your ignorance.

Really, there&#039;s often little or no need to criticise your outpourings, they themselves self-evidently do the job almost perfectly!

I suggest you read the Osho quotes Arpana has just provided, that might be a decent start.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I suspected, Shantam, you&#8217;ve never been taught the difference between love/passion and emotion/sentiment. All you can do is pour scorn, thus once again broadcasting your ignorance.</p>
<p>Really, there&#8217;s often little or no need to criticise your outpourings, they themselves self-evidently do the job almost perfectly!</p>
<p>I suggest you read the Osho quotes Arpana has just provided, that might be a decent start.</p>
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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/3979#comment-60788</link>
		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2014 14:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is love, that is not love.
These are sentiments, not love, and blah, blah, blah…

Because of such kind of mind-fuck Shantam is suffering from bleeding heart. Under the façade is the lonely heart, broken relations of a middle-aged adult without decent relationships with his children]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is love, that is not love.<br />
These are sentiments, not love, and blah, blah, blah…</p>
<p>Because of such kind of mind-fuck Shantam is suffering from bleeding heart. Under the façade is the lonely heart, broken relations of a middle-aged adult without decent relationships with his children</p>
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		<title>By: Shantam Prem</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/3979#comment-60787</link>
		<dc:creator>Shantam Prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2014 14:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[


This is love, that is not love.
These are sentiments, not love, and blah, blah, blah...

Because of such kind of mind-fuck West is suffering from bleeding heart. Under the façade is the lonely heart, broken relations and middle-aged adults without children.

Surely childless therapists and mini-gurus are doing brisk business by telling such adults, &quot;Lick your thumb and jump.”]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is love, that is not love.<br />
These are sentiments, not love, and blah, blah, blah&#8230;</p>
<p>Because of such kind of mind-fuck West is suffering from bleeding heart. Under the façade is the lonely heart, broken relations and middle-aged adults without children.</p>
<p>Surely childless therapists and mini-gurus are doing brisk business by telling such adults, &#8220;Lick your thumb and jump.”</p>
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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/3979#comment-60785</link>
		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2014 14:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The famous Greek shipowner, Ori Oristotle, was having a house built on a large piece of land in Greece. He said to the architect, &quot;Don&#039;t disturb that tree over there, because directly under that tree is where I had my first love.&quot;
&quot;How sentimental, Mr. Oristotle,&quot; said the architect &quot;Right under that tree?&quot;
&quot;Yes,&quot; continued Ori Oristotle. &quot;And don&#039;t touch that tree over there either, because that is where her mother stood watching while I was having my first love affair.&quot;
&quot;Her mother just stood there while you were screwing her daughter?&quot; asked the architect.
&quot;Yes,&quot; said the Greek shipowner.
&quot;But, Mr. Oristotle, what did her mother say?&quot;
&quot;Baaa.&quot;


Osho.

Be Still and Know
Responses to Disciples Questions
Talks given from 01/09/79 am to 10/09/79 am
English Discourse series
10 Chapters
 

In a moment of feeling, you function as a totality. When you think, you function only as the head. When you are sentimental, you function only as the heart. Remember, sentimentality is not feeling, emotionalism is not feeling. Thinking, you are a head -- just a part pretending to be the whole. Of course it is false. This perspective  is  false.  Emotional,  sentimental,  you  are the heart -- again another  part  pretending to be the whole, another servant pretending to be the master. Again it is false.

Feeling is of the total -- of the body, of the mind, of the soul. Feeling knows no divisions; feeling is indivisible. When you feel, you function as a totality. When you function as a totality you function in tune with the Totality. Let me repeat it: when you function as a totality you function in tune with the Totality.

When you function as a part you have fallen apart; you are no longer in tune with the Total. When you are no longer in tune with the Total, whatsoever you think you know is false, illusory. When you are in tune with the  total,  you  know  that  you  don&#039;t  know  anything.  But  even  this  &#039;not  knowing&#039;  is  a  knowing  -  it  is  a feeling, it is a love affair with the Whole.

Osho.
Ecstasy - The Forgotten Language
Chapter #5
Chapter title: There are no words to tell
15 December 1976 am in Buddha Hall]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The famous Greek shipowner, Ori Oristotle, was having a house built on a large piece of land in Greece. He said to the architect, &#8220;Don&#8217;t disturb that tree over there, because directly under that tree is where I had my first love.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;How sentimental, Mr. Oristotle,&#8221; said the architect &#8220;Right under that tree?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Yes,&#8221; continued Ori Oristotle. &#8220;And don&#8217;t touch that tree over there either, because that is where her mother stood watching while I was having my first love affair.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Her mother just stood there while you were screwing her daughter?&#8221; asked the architect.<br />
&#8220;Yes,&#8221; said the Greek shipowner.<br />
&#8220;But, Mr. Oristotle, what did her mother say?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Baaa.&#8221;</p>
<p>Osho.</p>
<p>Be Still and Know<br />
Responses to Disciples Questions<br />
Talks given from 01/09/79 am to 10/09/79 am<br />
English Discourse series<br />
10 Chapters</p>
<p>In a moment of feeling, you function as a totality. When you think, you function only as the head. When you are sentimental, you function only as the heart. Remember, sentimentality is not feeling, emotionalism is not feeling. Thinking, you are a head &#8212; just a part pretending to be the whole. Of course it is false. This perspective  is  false.  Emotional,  sentimental,  you  are the heart &#8212; again another  part  pretending to be the whole, another servant pretending to be the master. Again it is false.</p>
<p>Feeling is of the total &#8212; of the body, of the mind, of the soul. Feeling knows no divisions; feeling is indivisible. When you feel, you function as a totality. When you function as a totality you function in tune with the Totality. Let me repeat it: when you function as a totality you function in tune with the Totality.</p>
<p>When you function as a part you have fallen apart; you are no longer in tune with the Total. When you are no longer in tune with the Total, whatsoever you think you know is false, illusory. When you are in tune with the  total,  you  know  that  you  don&#8217;t  know  anything.  But  even  this  &#8216;not  knowing&#8217;  is  a  knowing  &#8211;  it  is  a feeling, it is a love affair with the Whole.</p>
<p>Osho.<br />
Ecstasy &#8211; The Forgotten Language<br />
Chapter #5<br />
Chapter title: There are no words to tell<br />
15 December 1976 am in Buddha Hall</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/3979#comment-60784</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2014 13:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[More seriously, what you, Shantam and Madhu, like to term &quot;heart&quot; is too often nothing but sentiment, sentimental claptrap in fact.

It somehow reminds me of how football fans like to praise a player for his &quot;passion&quot;, using that strong-sounding word to state that the man tends to get far too emotionally excited, often enough leading to rash errors of judgment, even violence. 

The word they should use is &#039;emotional&#039;, but this, of course, has far too many &#039;female&#039; and hence &#039;wimpish&#039; connotations for the average macho fan to identify himself with! So they indulge themselves by using the word &#039;passion&#039;.

Love and emotion, true &quot;heart&quot; and cloying, ultimately self-indulgent sentiment - the difference can sometimes be tricky to perceive and often seems to be not recognised at all around here, or indeed, perhaps, amongst many sannyasins...Strange, though, as Osho himself was, in his being, the epitome of love and &#039;passion&#039; (ie the true, unattached kind). 

But did he often enough demonstrate the difference in his teachings? Or did he, in encouraging the unbridled expression of practically anything in any way, in the name of freedom, create a cult(ure) where extreme emotional or sentimental self-indulgence and the delusions (as well as the freedom) that inevitably leads to, occupied a perhaps dangerously pre-eminent role? So that its &#039;victims&#039; are often unable to &#039;see the wood for the trees&#039;, as the saying goes.

Perhaps that&#039;s the price of such freedom: it doesn&#039;t come cheap, there can be casualties, temporary or apparently &#039;permanent&#039;, along the way....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More seriously, what you, Shantam and Madhu, like to term &#8220;heart&#8221; is too often nothing but sentiment, sentimental claptrap in fact.</p>
<p>It somehow reminds me of how football fans like to praise a player for his &#8220;passion&#8221;, using that strong-sounding word to state that the man tends to get far too emotionally excited, often enough leading to rash errors of judgment, even violence. </p>
<p>The word they should use is &#8216;emotional&#8217;, but this, of course, has far too many &#8216;female&#8217; and hence &#8216;wimpish&#8217; connotations for the average macho fan to identify himself with! So they indulge themselves by using the word &#8216;passion&#8217;.</p>
<p>Love and emotion, true &#8220;heart&#8221; and cloying, ultimately self-indulgent sentiment &#8211; the difference can sometimes be tricky to perceive and often seems to be not recognised at all around here, or indeed, perhaps, amongst many sannyasins&#8230;Strange, though, as Osho himself was, in his being, the epitome of love and &#8216;passion&#8217; (ie the true, unattached kind). </p>
<p>But did he often enough demonstrate the difference in his teachings? Or did he, in encouraging the unbridled expression of practically anything in any way, in the name of freedom, create a cult(ure) where extreme emotional or sentimental self-indulgence and the delusions (as well as the freedom) that inevitably leads to, occupied a perhaps dangerously pre-eminent role? So that its &#8216;victims&#8217; are often unable to &#8216;see the wood for the trees&#8217;, as the saying goes.</p>
<p>Perhaps that&#8217;s the price of such freedom: it doesn&#8217;t come cheap, there can be casualties, temporary or apparently &#8216;permanent&#8217;, along the way&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/3979#comment-60782</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2014 11:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, Shantam, I reckon Arsene Wenger should sign her up then!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Shantam, I reckon Arsene Wenger should sign her up then!</p>
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